Turkey should establish a military base in Saudi Arabia too

[Dubious]

On topic:

when I read the title, I was like yea sure Turkey should build a military base in KSA, in fact right in front of the American ones so that they can keep an eye on the Americans and maybe intimidate them so as to remind them they dont own KSA and are not eternal!

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

I stopped reading after that....BECAUSE the Arabs are stuck in the past, they have not been able to make much difference in the present let alone build up for a future!

Are you sure?

https://defence.pk/threads/oiling-the-wheels-on-a-road-to-success-in-saudi-arabia.428713/

My post should be seen in relation to a compatriot of yours claiming that Saudi Arabians and "Gulf Arabs" (there is no such thing to begin with and I have explained this many times on PDF but I will leave it this time around but anybody can do his own research) could not fight when history clearly proves otherwise for all to see.

In the past 100 years times have changed and everyone has become softer in general because we live in a different world and because internal conflicts and wars are nowhere near as common as they once were. KSA for instance, since 1932, has not fought that many wars, let alone any internal ones.

However it is not more than 100 years ago that almost every male in Saudi Arabia lived a warrior like life. And by that I mean a real warrior like life.

Anyway my feeling tells me that this thread will turn into a troll thread so I will politely end it here for my part.

On topic:

when I read the title, I was like yea sure Turkey should build a military base in KSA, in fact right in front of the American ones so that they can keep an eye on the Americans and maybe intimidate them so as to remind them they dont own KSA and are not eternal!

There are no American bases in KSA and they do not own anything in KSA. Turkey actually has an American base (Incirlik Air Base).

I am glad to have you here on our little site and correcting our stereotypes and generalizations towards the Arab world. We can only advance through knowledge and education, so I thank you for your efforts.

It's my honor brother. I try to do my best now that few Arab users remain.

It is up to KSA, of course though since it's only an opinion, I think it'd be great and very helping for the increasing military ties between both countries and for the newly established Saudi led coalition.

Well, I would support such an idea if bases or presence was mutual. Otherwise it will often turn into a one-way relationship and KSA is not interested in that. KSA-US relations for instance are not like they once were and are not going to be that again. We are moving away from them and pursuing a much more independent policy and building closer ties to other partners.

 

[Dubious]

there is no such thing to begin with and I have explained this many times on PDF but I will leave it this time around but anybody can do his own research

Well sorry to burst your bubble but that is how it is seen by many around the world and it is also what research shows...AND to top it all Arabs coming to West dont add spices to it further.....So from all the research you appear in denial!
This shows even from the political GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), which is refered to a small area (political and economic alliance of six Middle Eastern countries—Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, and Oman) - when Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Egypt also speak Arabic and so does many other African nations....

Are you sure?

Def.

Islam brought enlightenment to a people who had the Kabbah filled with many gods...Now you are repeating it with overshadowing the kabbah with towering "international" comfort....Tell me, was Hajj and Umrah for comfort purposes or for ALLAH? Because at least my prophet told us that the "thawaab" increases when you walk to the masjid and this towering comfort seems to be killing the purpose -This is just 1 thing to point out!

Then we have other crappy things like how you have a scale of payment for the same job - in English we call it discrimination which Islam forbids! You have higher pay for Saudi and American citizens....Please dont deny- I know too many people working in Saudi to justify this heck even the American colleague who though laughed at the stupidity but was glad he was paid more...

Then we have the lack of advancement in any field since your ancestors - not just yours Muslim ancestors coz they were Persians, Turks, Africa and all over who contributed!

In the past 100 years times have changed and everyone has become softer in general because we live in a different world and because internal conflicts and wars are nowhere near as common as they once were. KSA for instance, since 1932, has not fought that many wars, let alone any internal ones.

Yes, soft isnt the word...lazy defines it better!

As for no internal wars.....Monarchy is considered oppression coz all the wealth is in 1 place and there is no elections- even Khalifah were elected what gives Monarchs the right to not follow Islam? What exactly are they following? And what about the ego surrounded wars of Shia and Sunni which has caused the world in such a mess? What about beheadings in public? THAT is to put in fear...your monarchy is ruling like those in the past using fear!
Oh and lets not forget the brainwashing that if there is no monarchy your clans will rip each other apart....THAT is what the Saudi PhD and MSc students in UK said that if they dont bring down the king they wont be united....When sadly they should fear ALLAH and be united not a king! Sounds like the story of Firaun!

Saudi had many brave men who didnt let ego rule them! But the KSA now is ONLY a kingdom...which just so happens to have 2 Muslim holy sites NOTHING ELSE!

However it is not more than 100 years ago that almost every male in Saudi Arabia lived a warrior like life. And by that I mean a real warrior like life.

Yes, it didnt take 100 years for you to become nothing it took less than 1 yr of oil!

There are no American bases in KSA and they do not own anything in KSA.

Child who are you lying to?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-21350437
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...cret-drone-base-in-Saudi-Arabia-revealed.html

http://qz.com/374138/these-are-all-the-countries-where-the-us-has-a-military-presence/

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

Well brother, I am not calling anybody a liar I simply told that there is no Saudi Arabian or Arab tradition of throwing food at guests. It sounds very absurd to me and it is the first time that I hear of anything like this.

My post was not aimed at any particular user and if it was, it was mostly towards the user @Syed Asif Bukhari

I am all about Muslim cooperation and I would love if Muslim regimes did that more often and effectively and looked past all the silly rivalries and small differences but I demand respect from fellow Muslim as I do not see any Arab users (the few that remain nowadays) disrespecting or writing nonsense towards our Pakistani brothers and sisters. I also highly dislike generalizations. If people visited KSA (it's a HUGE country with many different regions with different traditions and customs) they would realize that many of their perceptions are based on negative media reports, lies, half-truths and over-exaggerated reports. I am kind of used to it by now but it surprises me that many fellow Muslims remain like this in the year 2016. Never mind, it's nothing in the wider picture. We have our faults, big as small, like every people, but ours are magnified many times and I do not like that.

Bro , don't be offended . I am not disrespecting arabs . But it is a sad reality . Money makes a many lazy . Admit it or not , but Arabs should seriously reconsider their Path and Ambitions. we don't criticize your way of life . Its up to you .

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Well sorry to burst your bubble but that is how it is seen by many around the world and it is also what research shows...AND to top it all Arabs coming to West dont add spices to it further.....So from all the research you appear in denial!
This shows even from the political GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), which is refered to a small area (political and economic alliance of six Middle Eastern countries—Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, and Oman) - when Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Egypt also speak Arabic and so does many other African nations....


Def.

Islam brought enlightenment to a people who had the Kabbah filled with many gods...Now you are repeating it with overshadowing the kabbah with towering "international" comfort....Tell me, was Hajj and Umrah for comfort purposes or for ALLAH? Because at least my prophet told us that the "thawaab" increases when you walk to the masjid and this towering comfort seems to be killing the purpose -This is just 1 thing to point out!

Then we have other crappy things like how you have a scale of payment for the same job - in English we call it discrimination which Islam forbids! You have higher pay for Saudi and American citizens....Please dont deny- I know too many people working in Saudi to justify this heck even the American colleague who though laughed at the stupidity but was glad he was paid more...

Then we have the lack of advancement in any field since your ancestors - not just yours Muslim ancestors coz they were Persians, Turks, Africa and all over who contributed!


Yes, soft isnt the word...lazy defines it better!

As for no internal wars.....Monarchy is considered oppression coz all the wealth is in 1 place and there is no elections- even Khalifah were elected what gives Monarchs the right to not follow Islam? What exactly are they following? And what about the ego surrounded wars of Shia and Sunni which has caused the world in such a mess? What about beheadings in public? THAT is to put in fear...your monarchy is ruling like those in the past using fear!
Oh and lets not forget the brainwashing that if there is no monarchy your clans will rip each other apart....THAT is what the Saudi PhD and MSc students in UK said that if they dont bring down the king they wont be united....When sadly they should fear ALLAH and be united not a king! Sounds like the story of Firaun!

Saudi had many brave men who didnt let ego rule them! But the KSA now is ONLY a kingdom...which just so happens to have 2 Muslim holy sites NOTHING ELSE!



Yes, it didnt take 100 years for you to become nothing it took less than 1 yr of oil!


Child who are you lying to?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-21350437
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...cret-drone-base-in-Saudi-Arabia-revealed.html

http://qz.com/374138/these-are-all-the-countries-where-the-us-has-a-military-presence/

Some posts are better left unanswered but due to the amount of nonsense, I am forced to reply.

Firstly, the GCC is a POLITICAL construct and nothing more. If it was a geographic construct Iraq should have been included as well. Secondly it's better to not talk about issues that one has little or no clue about. The reason why it is called the Gulf Cooperation Council is because all of the states border the Gulf. However in KSA there are only 200.000 Arabs who speak Khaliji Arabic who live in the coastal regions of the Eastern Province. 97% of all other Saudi Arabians are not Khaliji speaking Arabs and thus do not call themselves that. Please don't lecture Arabs about their own countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Arabic

There is something called the Arab League and there all 22 Arab countries are present. The GCC is a REGIONAL political bloc. This should hopefully clear it.

Nonsense. Arabs in Arabia had Chrsitian and Jewish Kingdoms. Aside from a large presence of Hanifs in Hijaz. There were also Pagans but they believed in ancient Semitic religions. The same ancient Semitic religions who have influenced the Semitic Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) a lot. Meanwhile 95% of what is today the Muslim world 1400 years ago were Pagans with the exact and often worse ills.

What are you blabbering about? Hotels are built because there is a demand and to make life easier for pilgrims. We do not live today like 100 years ago anywhere! Any pilgrim today can choose where they want to overnight and how far from the Kaaba. In fact even how they want to do their Hajj and Umrah!

Yes, because other Muslims countries, including yours, do not have hundreds of problems of their own? KSA is much better off than average Muslim countries and every knowledgeable person knows that. Lastly what you described is disappearing more and more for each month. Your knowledge is outdated.

You have no clue about what is going on in KSA let alone other Arab nations. I already gave you a link about scientific progress that disputes your nonsense claim.

https://defence.pk/threads/oiling-the-wheels-on-a-road-to-success-in-saudi-arabia.428713/

You keep writing nonsense and generalization without having any knowledge of what you are talking about. Beheadings are done in public as prescribed in Sharia. There will be no "tribal wars" as that is a thing of the past. It stopped long before KSA even became a country. Lastly most Saudi Arabians support the monarchy. The rest of your ramblings I better not answer for my own sake and yours.

Do you know the difference between Americans using SAUDI ARABIAN military bases INSIDE KSA ALONGSIDE Saudi Arabian military and outright having SOVEREIGN American bases and soldiers on your soil? Apparently not.

You don't have to write a reply as you proved to me that you are highly ignorant and your tone is pathetic as well.

No one needs to invade KSA by army , just send some more luxury cars , make tall building and most importantly send some white blond chicks and they will be lining up after them
The Arabs today are no less than the disgrace to their own Ancestors ..
the only reason for me to respect KSA is because of Mecca and Madina , which today KSA wont be able to defend if someone attack .. we have seen their might when sadaam attack Kuwait ..

even if there is a alliance in future that include Pakistan/Turkey and KSA , I would suggest keep the Arabs limited to Financing stuff ..

Another "genius" writing nonsense and showcasing his tremendous ignorance for all to see.

@WebMaster @Horus @Manticore @HRK @waz etc. your assistance is needed here to clean this thread up!

 

[Dubious]

Firstly, the GCC is a POLITICAL construct and nothing more. If it was a geographic Iraq should have been included as well.

Yes it is political, I mentioned that you repeating it didnt give it any extra importance!

even from the political GCC

The reason why it is called the Gulf Cooperation Council is because all of the states border the Gulf.

And somehow geographically Yemen and Egypt dont border the gulf? Really? Bad Geography or just another lie? Even politically you dont ally with each other! Thanks for proving my point even with a bad sense of Geography!

However in KSA there are only 200.000 Arabs who speak Khaliji Arabic. 97% of all Saudi Arabians are not Khaliji speaking Arabs and thus do not call themselves that. Please don't lecture Arabs about their own countries.

Maybe it is about time you need lecturing....Now you are differentiating each other on language....Shame on you!

What exactly unites you? THAT was my point, I am sorry I had to tell you instead of you figuring it out! Because of all this pride and whatever that surrounds you people FAILED to unite hence the lack of any advancements since the last 100 years!

The GCC is a REGIONAL political bloc. This should hopefully clear it.

All you clarified is your lack of comprehension skills! I only gave 1 example starting with EVEN from a political view point you arent united! You claimed there is no such thing as GCC...you just explained it to me!

Then you said there is no such thing as you and them...You just told me of differences in languages WITHIN your own country forget the 22 other you are trying to talk about!

Nonsense. Arabs in Arabia had Chrsitian and Jewish Kingdoms. Aside from a large presence of Hanifs in Hijaz. There were also Pagans but they believed in ancient Semitic religions. The same ancient Semitic religions who have influenced the Semitic Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) a lot.

And now you have gone offshoot! No idea which part of any of my post this answers!

What are you blabbering about? Hotels are built because there is a demand and to make life easier for pilgrims. We do not live today like 100 years ago anywhere!

THAT is the problem....you dont live life at all you live in comfort! Life has challenges....

Yes, because other Muslims countries, including yours, do not have hundreds of problems of their own? KSA is much better off than average Muslim countries and every knowledgeable person knows that. Lastly what you described is disappearing more and more for each month. Your knowledge is outdated.

No its not outdated but how the world views you guys! Actually only demo of how the world views you guys!

As for much better than average Muslim countries...there again you should hang your head in shame....why do I say this coz Prophet told us that if you have food your neighbour shouldnt sleep hungry...but we all see how much you waste- we have some Arab wanna be in every Muslim country (yes it is a slang you are called an Arab if you are lazy or waste food/ money)

2ndly Muslim countries dont need KSA only Mekkah and Madina....were it not for these 2 cities you wouldnt even be known ...

Lastly. disappearing yes, you denied they werent there so disappearing or not your denial is the problem!

You keep writing nonsense and generalization without having any knowledge of what you are talking about.

A Sheikh once said if you get angry with criticisms you have an ego problem!

Just because you are an Arab doesnt give you inherited knowledge on Islam...In fact MANY of the best Sheikhs in today's time are NON ARABs mostly reverted Muslims! Who CHOSE Islam coz they learned about it not Muslims who think they are born with full and absolute knowledge on Islam!

Beheadings are done in public as prescribed in Sharia

Shariah is not a book it is a hand written law which was "adjusted" "changed" and "modified" as time passed to make it up to date, but you lazy people forgot to update it since 100 years ago! Shariah doesnt have cars in it....So how can you ban a woman from driving?

Shariah ALSO says IF a human is denying his/ her crimes she/ he cant be beheaded...there is no inhumanity in Islam!

Shariah also talks about justice and not collecting wealth - no monarchy system!

There will be no "tribal wars" as that is a thing of the past.

So future or past? will is used as future tense!

Lastly most Saudi Arabians support the monarchy. The rest of your ramblings I better not answer for my own sake and yours

Of course not, it might overwork your brain to think after all not much is expected out of a 100 yr old fossil!

Do you know the difference between Americans using SAUDI ARABIAN military bases INSIDE KSA ALONGSIDE Saudi Arabian military and outright having SOVEREIGN American bases and soldiers on your soil. Apparently not.

Did I say one or the other? Its not my fault you thought that way!

You don't have to write a reply as you proved to me that you are highly ignorant and your tone is pathetic as well.

And ego revealed!

Typical of one who cant answer and has been butt hurt to accept reality!

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Yes it is political, I mentioned that you repeating it didnt give it any extra importance!



And somehow geographically Yemen and Egypt dont border the gulf? Really? Bad Geography or just another lie? Even politically you dont ally with each other! Thanks for proving my point even with a bad sense of Geography!


Maybe it is about time you need lecturing....Now you are differentiating each other on language....Shame on you!

What exactly unites you? THAT was my point, I am sorry I had to tell you instead of you figuring it out! Because of all this pride and whatever that surrounds you people FAILED to unite hence the lack of any advancements since the last 100 years!


All you clarified is your lack of comprehension skills! I only gave 1 example starting with EVEN from a political view point you arent united! You claimed there is no such thing as GCC...you just explained it to me!

Then you said there is no such thing as you and them...You just told me of differences in languages WITHIN your own country forget the 22 other you are trying to talk about!


And now you have gone offshoot! No idea which part of any of my post this answers!


THAT is the problem....you dont live life at all you live in comfort! Life has challenges....


No its not outdated but how the world views you guys! Actually only demo of how the world views you guys!

As for much better than average Muslim countries...there again you should hang your head in shame....why do I say this coz Prophet told us that if you have food your neighbour shouldnt sleep hungry...but we all see how much you waste- we have some Arab wanna be in every Muslim country (yes it is a slang you are called an Arab if you are lazy or waste food/ money)

2ndly Muslim countries dont need KSA only Mekkah and Madina....were it not for these 2 cities you wouldnt even be known ...

Lastly. disappearing yes, you denied they werent there so disappearing or not your denial is the problem!


A Sheikh once said if you get angry with criticisms you have an ego problem!

Just because you are an Arab doesnt give you inherited knowledge on Islam...In fact MANY of the best Sheikhs in today's time are NON ARABs mostly reverted Muslims! Who CHOSE Islam coz they learned about it not Muslims who think they are born with full and absolute knowledge on Islam!


Shariah is not a book it is a hand written law which was "adjusted" "changed" and "modified" as time passed to make it up to date, but you lazy people forgot to update it since 100 years ago! Shariah doesnt have cars in it....So how can you ban a woman from driving?

Shariah ALSO says IF a human is denying his/ her crimes she/ he cant be beheaded...there is no inhumanity in Islam!

Shariah also talks about justice and not collecting wealth - no monarchy system!


So future or past? will is used as future tense!


Of course not, it might overwork your brain to think after all not much is expected out of a 100 yr old fossil!

Did I say one or the other? Its not my fault you thought that way!


And ego revealed!

Typical of one who cant answer and has been butt hurt to accept reality!

Since when do Yemen and Egypt border the Gulf? What are you blabbering about? Then you have the audacity to talk about geography when you don't know even the basics! Hilarious.

I just lectured you on a issue that you were ignorant about and instead of moving on, you continue on that exact same track.

Are you alright? Where the hell did I claim that the "GCC was not a political bloc"? I just told you that the only Khaliji Arabs in the GCC are those who speak an Khaliji Arabic dialect and among those only 200.000 are found in KSA. How hard can it be to understand? The GCC Is a very united political bloc politically, militarily and economically. But of course I don't expect you to know anything about that given what you have "enlightened us with" here so far.

Difference of ARABIC DIALECTS. Learn the difference between mutually intelligible dialects from within the same language and outright different languages.

Any pilgrim today can choose where they want to overnight and how far from the Kaaba. In fact even how they want to do their Hajj and Umrah! So what are you blabbering about? Based on your comments you have clearly not experienced a Hajj or Umrah yet! Yes, because everything in KSA is pure comfort, lol.

Your dishonesty and overreactions on that issue is not my problem. Facts are facts, we are much better off on ALL FRONTS than 90% of all Muslim countries. Whether you like it or not. Speaking about donations, KSA is the biggest Muslim donor on the planet along with Turkey and funnily enough those two countries are also the largest Muslim economies in the world.

No shit sherlock, when Arabs "only" compromise 400 million people (Muslim Arabs) out of the 1.6 billion Muslims. Anyway who said anything about that not being the case? Not me. If you want to speak about Muslim clerics then take a look at history and if you do you will notice that the majority of the most eminent Muslim clerics were Arabs!

The ban on women driving, which is only 25 years old and which I do not agree with, is based on a Fatwa from ibn Baz and many clerics within KSA disagree with that fatwa.

Beheadings in KSA are the most swift, painless and quick method of execution and everyone in KSA who is beheaded is sentenced according to Sharia law and only for heinous crimes. Besides we are content with our laws and who are you to tell us differently? Why don't you worry about the "perfect" Pakistani judicial system which I do not lecture you about or pretend to be an expert one?!

I was disputing the claims of "tribal wars" emerging out of the blue (despite being long dead and buried) in case of a change of system. Hence the "will not" BECAUSE "it is a thing of the past". Got it?

You talk about ego when you are the ignorant one here who is lacking knowledge on the topics that you have decided to comment on! Not only that you do it in a very pathetic tone despite being proven repeatedly wrong. Look at your initial posts and tone.

Lastly I do not care about how you view KSA or the 450 million Arabs and I frankly have better things to do than discuss with ignorant and hateful individuals! Come back to me when you want a serious discussion another time.

Besides all this has nothing to do with the topic! A topic that you are clearly not interested in! I was hoping that we could for ONCE have a serious discussion on topic without any trolling but I guess my hopes were futile! And no, I have nothing against you personally or anyone else as I do not know you!

 

[Serpentine]

Iran should also build a base in Saudi Arabia. I'm sure relations between 2 countries will get even better compared to current excellent status. @Bilad al-Haramayn Don't you agree?

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Iran should also build a base in Saudi Arabia. I'm sure relations between 2 countries will get even better compared to current excellent status. @Bilad al-Haramayn Don't you agree?

I think that the Iranian pilgrims that visit Makkah and Madinah can build a base there and then the Shia Saudi Arabian pilgrims who visit Mashhad can build a base there. Not sure if any visit Qom but if they do we will be even. Sounds about right to me. Maybe that will improve the relations and if so I guess nobody will complain!

 

[HRK]

BECAUSE the Arabs are stuck in the past

Whole of muslim world is stuck in past .... for one reason or another ... one can not cast blame to just one race, society, culture or country for that matter ....

 

[Dubious]

Since when do Yemen and Egypt border the Gulf?

Ahh the red sea my mistake on that part....

Where the hell did I claim that the "GCC was not a political bloc"?

I didnt say you did but you claimed I did just read above

I just lectured you on a issue that you were ignorant about and instead of moving on, you continue on that exact same track.

Ignored? I answered each bit of it! I guess for one who cant comprehend will state so...Hence I will ignore this post so you know how ignore looks like!

Whole of muslim world is stuck in past .... for one reason or another ... one can not cast blame to just one race, society, culture or country for that matter ....

Sure...I dont but the thread is about 2 specific areas right now

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Ahh the red sea my mistake on that part....


I didnt say you did but you claimed I did just read above

You do not have to apologize as we all make mistakes. Frankly I do not like the type of discussions that we just had as they often do not led to anything positive. I am sorry if I offended you in any way.

Maybe I was not clear enough in my post 21 but let me try to explain it again and more thoroughly this time around.

The GCC, which was founded in 1981, is first and foremost a political and economic union between the monarchies of Arabia. If it was a geographical construct a neighboring Arab country like Iraq (also a former monarchy), that also borders the Gulf, would be included but that is not the case. Neither is the GCC an fully Arabian political or economic bloc as 30 million big Yemen (50th biggest country on the planet out of almost 200 so no pushover or tiny state) is not included either. Yemen which has had some of the oldest civilizations on the planet and which has had a big impact on the overall culture of Arabia, is as told not included.

The GCC does not equal Arabia or the Arab world. However all citizens of the GCC are Arabians and Arabs.

Now within Arabia there are many Arabic dialects (Yemen in particular is famous across the Arab world for having A LOT of dialects) but the dominating Arabic dialect in most GCC states is the Khaliji Arabic dialect. It is the most spoken dialect in the historical region of Eastern Arabia which is the region where 4 of the 6 GCC states are located in. Those states are Kuwait, Bahrain (which is island a few km away from the coast of Eastern Saudi Arabian (Eastern Province) ), Qatar (a peninsula that is attached to KSA), UAE. Oman is partially located (Northern Oman to be precise) in Eastern Arabia while all the remaining parts of Oman are Southern Arabia. In fact most of Oman is geographically Southern Arabia but in the north of Oman a Khaliji Arabic dialect is spoken.

Within Eastern Arabia, where as stated earlier the Khaliji Arabic is the most predominant Arabic dialect, there are also many sub dialects of Khaliji Arabic. For instance the Khaliji Arabic spoken in Kuwait is not exactly the same as the one spoken in Northern Oman although locals can easily understand each other. Similarly the dialect of Bahrain is not identical to that of Qatar but people have no problem understanding each other. To clear all misunderstandings Khaliji Arabic is Peninsular Gulf Arabic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Arabia

Now in KSA, which is a HUGE country (12th largest in the world and 3 times larger than Pakistan) there are many different historical regions and modern-day provinces (there are 16 in total) the size of countries. In 1 of those provinces that is part of historical Eastern Arabia, the Eastern Province, a sub-dialect of Khaliji Arabic is spoken in the coastal regions of the Eastern Province. For instance people of the coastal regions of the Eastern Province in KSA speak the exact same dialect as people in Bahrain. Anyway the number of Khaliji speakers in the Eastern Province and thus KSA as a whole only numbers 200.000. This link below should explain it in more detail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Arabic

A person living in Hijaz almost 1500 km to the West next to Egypt, Sham (Levant) and Yemen does not speak Khaliji Arabic and does not share the culture of Eastern Arabia and does not refer to himself as a Khaliji Arab (Gulf Arab). Same with the Southern provinces of KSA, Northern provinces or the central part of KSA which is composed of a plateau and known as Najd.

Now people who do not know this, you can have Arabs even from within Arabia let alone outside of it not know this either, call all people of Arabia for "Gulf Arabs" which is frankly ridiculous. It is like if all Pakistanis were called Punjabis or even worse Indians. Not quite the same as we are all Arabs but I hope that you get the point.

I hope that this should clear any misunderstandings.

 

[sami_1]

One of #Turkey's army T-155 Fırtına beheaded by #ISIS yesterday in ATGM hit across #Syria|n borders

Turkey is the need of protection from the Arabs
Turkey does not hold a professional army
Turkish military defeats at the hands of YPG & HPG forces considering how important an army professional even to not become like the Turkish army

Turkish army uses to ISIS result Defeats of Kurds

Turkish Air Force

asked Saudi Arabia to protect F-15 fighter it until you can hit Syria

Turkey has asked NATO to protect horror and fear of the Russian bear

Turks should learn the facts there is a removable dreams of setting up bases to learn that the Turks create professional army

Egyptian army, for example, since the beginning of the year set up Dozens of maneuvers
Including 3 exercises with UAE air and sea to land, the coast and the Egyptian land UAE
Egyptian Air Force carried out maneuvers in Kuwait
Egyptian air forces carried out exercises with Bahrain
Egyptian army contributed half the troops in maneuvers North Thunder
Egyptian exercises with France
Egyptian maneuvers with the US
Egyptian maneuvers with Greece
General Training and Still continuously Wallis better for Turks to own professional Army initially
Then where the Turkish military equipment
At the same time, Egypt maintains a blockade on the coast of Yemen participates Popeye in Yemen

Turkey has thousands of old tanks from the M48 and M60 and does not have a sophisticated tanks only 298 Leopard 2 and 170 Israelis have Upgrade M60
Any simply what is owned by GULF states sophisticated double my tank is owned by Turks permission Wallis us for the best that the Gulf states would establish bases in Turkey to protect them

After Turkey defeated Kurds waved Tourists supports ISIS to attack the Kurds as a result of defeats and losses on Turkish army

Is Gulf states in need of a terrorist Turkey
Last week, Turkey lost self-propelled artillery, tanks and dozens of armored vehicles, what is the benefit of such an army is defeated in the Turkish armor is destroyed very easily and all his duties to be targets called Kurds fire
The Turks to demand military bases Arab to protect them as they asked NATO to protect fear and panic of the Russian Bear

Most of the Turkish military obsolete equipment as a result of the very most of the manufacturing Turkish Military projects failed to meet Turkey's needs in appropriate timings, which led to the failure of the level of armament and now gets a Turkish military armored vehicles do not fit the size of the huge losses as a result of the war with the Kurds

 

[T-123456]

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One of #Turkey's army T-155 Fırtına beheaded by #ISIS yesterday in ATGM hit across #Syria|n borders

Turkey is the need of protection from the Arabs
Turkey does not hold a professional army
Turkish military defeats at the hands of YPG & HPG forces considering how important an army professional even to not become like the Turkish army

Turkish army uses to ISIS result Defeats of Kurds

Turkish Air Force

asked Saudi Arabia to protect F-15 fighter it until you can hit Syria

Turkey has asked NATO to protect horror and fear of the Russian bear

Turks should learn the facts there is a removable dreams of setting up bases to learn that the Turks create professional army

Egyptian army, for example, since the beginning of the year set up Dozens of maneuvers
Including 3 exercises with UAE air and sea to land, the coast and the Egyptian land UAE
Egyptian Air Force carried out maneuvers in Kuwait
Egyptian air forces carried out exercises with Bahrain
Egyptian army contributed half the troops in maneuvers North Thunder
Egyptian exercises with France
Egyptian maneuvers with the US
Egyptian maneuvers with Greece
General Training and Still continuously Wallis better for Turks to own professional Army initially
Then where the Turkish military equipment
At the same time, Egypt maintains a blockade on the coast of Yemen participates Popeye in Yemen

Turkey has thousands of old tanks from the M48 and M60 and does not have a sophisticated tanks only 298 Leopard 2 and 170 Israelis have Upgrade M60
Any simply what is owned by GULF states sophisticated double my tank is owned by Turks permission Wallis us for the best that the Gulf states would establish bases in Turkey to protect them

After Turkey defeated Kurds waved Tourists supports ISIS to attack the Kurds as a result of defeats and losses on Turkish army

Is Gulf states in need of a terrorist Turkey
Last week, Turkey lost self-propelled artillery, tanks and dozens of armored vehicles, what is the benefit of such an army is defeated in the Turkish armor is destroyed very easily and all his duties to be targets called Kurds fire
The Turks to demand military bases Arab to protect them as they asked NATO to protect fear and panic of the Russian Bear
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Most of the Turkish military obsolete equipment as a result of the very most of the manufacturing Turkish Military projects failed to meet Turkey's needs in appropriate timings, which led to the failure of the level of armament and now gets a Turkish military armored vehicles do not fit the size of the huge losses as a result of the war with the Kurds

Gets some help,you need it.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Don't take it in wrong way .many arab countries have good army like Egypt . But oil rich arab countries like KSA , UAE don't have good fighting force. Their ancestors were very tough and hard . by the way , don't drag ethnicity here.

Your statement couldn't be further from the truth.