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Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

So as you all make Critic on Turkey where was you all guys when they have dawned our F4 Phantom ?

June 2012 interception of Turkish aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



They had use this System and it was Russians who are used them, neither it was never officially but Syrians was not capable during that time to use this System.

So it´s ok when turkish Jet is dawned but when a russian jet get´s dawned it is terrible ?

You are all have preconceptions against Turkey & turkish People, neither was one of you in Turkey or take really part in a Discussion about the Syrian Conflict.

You are just sitting behind your Monitor and trying to be a Keyboard hero for ?

Just coming with Arguments from the rumors of the stupid Media Agencies that has some might over some of you here, your are in my eyes very poor.
 
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday that Moscow was not planning on going to war against Turkey after Ankara's downing of a Russian fighter jet.

"We do not plan to go to war with Turkey, our attitude toward the Turkish people has not changed," Lavrov told reporters after speaking with his Turkish counterpart, but warned that Moscow would "seriously re-evaluate" its ties with Ankara.

Lavrov also backed a proposal by French leader Francois Hollande to close off the Syria-Turkey border to prevent the flow of terroristscrossing the frontier.

"I think this is a good proposal and that tomorrow President Hollande will talk to us in greater detail about it. We would be ready to seriously consider the necessary measures for this," Lavrov told journalists ahead of Hollande's visit to Moscow Thursday.

On Tuesday, Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 warplane for violating its airspace, despite the fact that it has warned the jet 10 times within a five-minute period.

Two Russian pilots parachuted to the ground after the shooting down, and according to Russian military spokesman General Sergei Rudskoi, one had been killed by fire from the ground while Shoigu said the other had been freed by Russian and Syrian special forces and is now at a Russian airbase.


Russia not planning to wage war against Turkey, Russian For. Minister says - Daily Sabah

Told you all, Russia aint gonna do jack shitt. Some people are really overestimating Russia's capabilities here.

turks just give out free balls to ruskie. bad and bold step

Maybe, but this can go both ways remember that. If Russia dares to retaliate it would simply play into Turkey's hands.
 
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So as you all make Critic on Turkey where was you all guys when they have dawned our F4 Phantom ?

June 2012 interception of Turkish aircraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
your are in my eyes very poor.
Wiki:
At this point, the aircraft violated Syrian airspace, and flew around for five minutes within its airspace. A Turkish radar base controlling the flight warned the RF-4E to change its course immediately and leave that airspace. At 11:47, it left Syrian airspace and took course towards north in direction Hatay ascending to FL030. During its violation and shortly after, the aircraft received no warning or admonishment at all from Syrian military authorities. The pilots changed their course once again into Mediterranean Sea in order to proceed with their mission of radar testing. At 11:50, the pilots asked the Turkish radar base for assistance on route information in order not to cause any other airspace violation. The aircraft was flying in international airspace visible on radar screen until 12:02
 
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Told you all, Russia aint gonna do jack shitt. Some people are really overestimating Russia's capabilities here.



Maybe, but this can go both ways remember that. If Russia dares to retaliate it would simply play into Turkey's hands.

I agree, thats why I think we will make the correct decision by siding with Turkey rather than Russia or China in this case. Long term we will find favour in NATO thru Turkey.
 
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday that Moscow was not planning on going to war against Turkey after Ankara's downing of a Russian fighter jet.

"We do not plan to go to war with Turkey, our attitude toward the Turkish people has not changed," Lavrov told reporters after speaking with his Turkish counterpart, but warned that Moscow would "seriously re-evaluate" its ties with Ankara.

Lavrov also backed a proposal by French leader Francois Hollande to close off the Syria-Turkey border to prevent the flow of terroristscrossing the frontier.

"I think this is a good proposal and that tomorrow President Hollande will talk to us in greater detail about it. We would be ready to seriously consider the necessary measures for this," Lavrov told journalists ahead of Hollande's visit to Moscow Thursday.

On Tuesday, Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 warplane for violating its airspace, despite the fact that it has warned the jet 10 times within a five-minute period.

Two Russian pilots parachuted to the ground after the shooting down, and according to Russian military spokesman General Sergei Rudskoi, one had been killed by fire from the ground while Shoigu said the other had been freed by Russian and Syrian special forces and is now at a Russian airbase.


Russia not planning to wage war against Turkey, Russian For. Minister says - Daily Sabah

Told you all, Russia aint gonna do jack shitt. Some people are really overestimating Russia's capabilities here.



Maybe, but this can go both ways remember that. If Russia dares to retaliate it would simply play into Turkey's hands.
Well putin called you guys a rabid dog just a couple of hours ago .....

And asked US to close the dog's mouth .

He also said that revenge is what turkey will receive.

Donno man . Hope you're right
 
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Dont be arrogant. Russia only need half day to wipe out all turkish airbases and air defence systems. Thats fact.
Know where your place is.
Dont act like a male teenager with too much testosteron. This is the real world in bigger dimension not in your street.

I am not talking about a total war but I make things clear for you, according to new RoE announced in 2012, every military asset heading to Turkish soil and airspace will be treated as enemy/military target. Again saying, if the message is not delivered, russians can test it out.
 
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I am not talking about a total war but I make things clear for you, according to new RoE announced in 2012, every military asset heading to Turkish soil and airspace will be treated as enemy/military target. Again saying, if the message is not delivered, russians can test it out.

Turkey has shown the world that it has courage and this is what matters!

We respect people with courage. I have spoken with many Pakistani and all of them support Turkey! Keep on showing the world what being Muslim means! Proud of you all!

Well putin called you guys a rabid dog just a couple of hours ago .....

And asked US to close the dog's mouth .

He also said that revenge is what turkey will receive.

Donno man . Hope you're right

Putin can only talk, Turkey actually pulled the trigger!
 
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Wiki:
At this point, the aircraft violated Syrian airspace, and flew around for five minutes within its airspace. A Turkish radar base controlling the flight warned the RF-4E to change its course immediately and leave that airspace. At 11:47, it left Syrian airspace and took course towards north in direction Hatay ascending to FL030. During its violation and shortly after, the aircraft received no warning or admonishment at all from Syrian military authorities. The pilots changed their course once again into Mediterranean Sea in order to proceed with their mission of radar testing. At 11:50, the pilots asked the Turkish radar base for assistance on route information in order not to cause any other airspace violation. The aircraft was flying in international airspace visible on radar screen until 12:02

1- Our jet hit without warning,
2- Jet hit in international airspace.
3- Jet was armless.
4- Jet was no threat for nobody and it had a test mission.

on the other hand,

1- Russian jet had been warned many times,
2- It was shot in Turkish airspace,
3- Jet was armed and dangerous.
4- It was a threat and bombing Turkmens 300 km from ISIS away.
 
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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Wednesday that Moscow was not planning on going to war against Turkey after Ankara's downing of a Russian fighter jet.

"We do not plan to go to war with Turkey, our attitude toward the Turkish people has not changed," Lavrov told reporters after speaking with his Turkish counterpart, but warned that Moscow would "seriously re-evaluate" its ties with Ankara.

Lavrov also backed a proposal by French leader Francois Hollande to close off the Syria-Turkey border to prevent the flow of terroristscrossing the frontier.

"I think this is a good proposal and that tomorrow President Hollande will talk to us in greater detail about it. We would be ready to seriously consider the necessary measures for this," Lavrov told journalists ahead of Hollande's visit to Moscow Thursday.

On Tuesday, Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 warplane for violating its airspace, despite the fact that it has warned the jet 10 times within a five-minute period.

Two Russian pilots parachuted to the ground after the shooting down, and according to Russian military spokesman General Sergei Rudskoi, one had been killed by fire from the ground while Shoigu said the other had been freed by Russian and Syrian special forces and is now at a Russian airbase.


Russia not planning to wage war against Turkey, Russian For. Minister says - Daily Sabah

Told you all, Russia aint gonna do jack shitt. Some people are really overestimating Russia's capabilities here.



Maybe, but this can go both ways remember that. If Russia dares to retaliate it would simply play into Turkey's hands.

Russia is going to kill all your Turkmen and the S-400 will make sure the job gets done without problems.

Let's see if Turkey can follow through again to shoot down Russian jets while they give a quick transfer to hell for your Turkmen.

I agree, thats why I think we will make the correct decision by siding with Turkey rather than Russia or China in this case. Long term we will find favour in NATO thru Turkey.

Pakistan don't even have a proper military without China. You got nukes because of China.
 
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First of all its pakistanis so kindly be civil.

Secondly I was not talking about what happened latter. My reply was to the point. And if u have it in u to justify what ur country did with a plane that u considered what ever. Then u don't have the right to criticize turkey for what they did.

On the naming issue. My apologies, it was my ignorance of the insulting word.

And here's why Turkeys case cannot be applied to India's case.

1. The incident happened just after 1 month of 1999 Kargil war Between India and Pakistan, so the tensions were definitely too high.

Has there been a recent war between Turkey and Russia?

( Also after that incident. Many more violations took place but we handled them with extra care. )

2. The aircraft , in India's case was on a mission which openly went against India. I.e, Surveillance of our Radar installations. And this has also been admitted by Pakistan Information Minister that the aircraft was on a surveillance mission.

Was the Su24 going against Turkeys Interest? (I don't think so, untill Turkey supports ISIS)

3.As per as agreement signed between Pakistan and India, in case of a military aircraft flying in near radius of10km of disputed areas ,if intercepted can be forced to land by escorting .

But the Pakistani aircraft made abrupt maneuvers to dash back into its airspace and resulting a missile shot in WVR.

NOW , in this case, the aircraft was shot from BVR, without giving proper warnigs, without trying to escort them out.
Is the case similar by any means?

@Abingdonboy Sir do you think 2 incidents are comparable?
 
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