Turkey refuses Russian ships based in occupied Crimea to dock

[Alienoz_TR]

lol.... like setting up terrorist training camps .
or providing chemical weapons to al-nusra:
Seymour M. Hersh · The Red Line and the Rat Line: Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels · LRB 17 April 2014

Turkish Official: “Chemical Weapons Sent From Turkey to Syria” | Global Research

Turkey doesnt have chemical weapons. Trace it back to its origin, then come up with counter-argument.

I cannot do something if USA or Saudi Arabia gives them weapons. And if SAA massacres its civilians, rebels can arm themselves and put fronts to fight back.

 

[MarkusS]

no slavs lived there way longer, orginally its also greek land


so you rely on such assumption?

I´m not scared.

 

[vK_man]

Turkey doesnt have chemical weapons. Trace it back to its origin, then come up with counter-argument.

I cannot do something if USA or Saudi Arabia gives them weapons. And if SAA massacres its civilians, rebels can arm themselves and put fronts to fight back.

lol,is this the best you got? Your kitman is not working ..... Pullitzer prize winning journalist seymor hersh has traced it to turkey lol.

 

[MarkusS]

You might want to do some research buddy


Cyprus GDP 2013 -5.4%
Greece DDP 2013 -3.9%
Portugal GDP 2013 -1.4%
Finland GDP 2013 -1.4%
Spain GDP 2013 -1.2%
Slovania GDP 2013 -1.1%
Netherlands 2013 -0.8%
Italy GDP 2014 -1.9%
Bulgaria GDP 2013 0.9%
France GDP 2013 0.2%





Great fantasy, now return to reality.

Greece, Cyprus, Portugal, Slovania combined have the economic power of a single german medium city like Stuttgart.

And serious, do you honestly compare a shit hole like russia with the top of the world like EU?

 

[ptldM3]

There is no one claiming land in Crimea who descended from Cimmerians or Sythians or Goths. But Turks are there claiming their land.

None sense all of those people trace their lineage somewhere, for instance the Sythians have been found to have both European as well as Asian DNA. So for anyone to claim that no one in Crimea that is claiming land has some any descendants from those people would be far fetched. Moreover, Tatars are not native to the land, many of the ones that have moved their came recently which means they have no more right to claim the land then any other group does.

This would be like Mexicans demanding and claiming California and Texas, although the difference is that Mexicans are were actually native to those lands, the Tatars, however, are not native to Crimea.

Anyway, Turkey is siding with international community against lawless occupation of Crimea. And we are not Georgia to push around,

You have distorted views Georgia was pushed around only after Georgia attacked UN approved Russian piece keepers but please do continue believing that Georgia is the innocent victim.

and your Black sea fleet would remain sea locked if you continue your aggresive stance against Ukraine and indirectly against NATO members.

Turkey will never confront the Russian navy. As for aggressive stance towards NATO, what aggression was their on Russia's side? Is it Russia that has been expanding into western Europe? Last time i checked NATO kept expanding on Russia's borders, threatening them with missile shields, conducting military exercises near the Russian border, and sending foreign soldiers and military equipment near the Russian borders.

 

[MarkusS]

russia has key to eurasia-american air flight, we have last word there and can bankrupt your air lines

you alianted with mongols

You can bancrupt nothing. You have no clue how a market works. You block our airlines airtravel, then yours get blocked from EU, USA, china and evryone else.

Now serious. How retarded can this forum get?

 

[vK_man]

I´m not scared.

Because the nukes will impact Germany and Italy in 5 minutes 35 seconds and 4 minutes 23 seconds respectively. This is the estimate for Topol. If the shtils and bulavas are launched from Mediterranean then the impact time will be even lesser.

You can bancrupt nothing. You have no clue how a market works. You block our airlines airtravel, then yours get blocked from EU, USA, china and evryone else.

Now serious. How retarded can this forum get?

Check the balance sheet in terms of liabilities and assets.The debt to GDP ratio of EU nations speaks otherwise.

 

[MarkusS]

Because the nukes will impact Germany and Italy in 5 minutes 35 seconds and 4 minutes 23 seconds respectively. This is the estimate for Topol. If the shtils and bulavas are launched from Mediterranean then the impact time will be even lesser.

If their Topol have the same failure statistics as have their proton rockets, then chances are that not one leaves her depot.

Serious now, what bullshit do you guys talk here? I must say it starts to annoy me. People without any credibility or degree in any subject come here, spill nonsense and take this as fact. Sometimes its funny. But sometimes just annoying.

Because the nukes will impact Germany and Italy in 5 minutes 35 seconds and 4 minutes 23 seconds respectively. This is the estimate for Topol. If the shtils and bulavas are launched from Mediterranean then the impact time will be even lesser.



Check the balance sheet in terms of liabilities and assets.The debt to GDP ratio of EU nations speaks otherwise.

lol

you do realize that russia has smaller economy than italy alone? And that even poorest EU members spit on russias living standards? Of course its still lightyears ahead compared from where you are from.

 

[vK_man]

If their Topol have the same failure statistics as have their proton rockets, then chances are that not one leaves her depot.

Serious now, what bullshit do you guys talk here? I must say it starts to annoy me. People without any credibility or degree in any subject come here, spill nonsense and take this as fact. Sometimes its funny. But sometimes just annoying.

Topol has over 90% success rate. which means 9 out of 10 will impact their targets.

If their Topol have the same failure statistics as have their proton rockets, then chances are that not one leaves her depot.

Serious now, what bullshit do you guys talk here? I must say it starts to annoy me. People without any credibility or degree in any subject come here, spill nonsense and take this as fact. Sometimes its funny. But sometimes just annoying.



lol

you do realize that russia has smaller economy than italy alone? And that even poorest EU members spit on russias living standards? Of course its still lightyears ahead compared from where you are from.

Economy is not the basis of safety of investment for the creditor. It is debt to GDP for nation and debt to equity for corporations which is important tool for measurement of risk. Russian debt to gdp is pretty low. Compare that with EU where several countries debt to GDP ratio is mindboggling.

 

[MarkusS]

Topol has over 90% success rate. which means 9 out of 10 will impact their targets.

What targets? Your slums?

Now to go into the phantasy of this topic. We will direct the comet with spacecraft Rosetta into russia.

Serious now, you think russia would attack the EU nuclear? That would mean the end of humanity and the world. How retarded must someone be to even think ito this bullshit?

 

[Alienoz_TR]

None sense all of those people trace their lineage somewhere, for instance the Sythians have been found to have both European as well as Asian DNA. So for anyone to claim that no one in Crimea that is claiming land has some any descendants from those people would be far fetched. Moreover, Tatars are not native to the land, many of the ones that have moved their came recently which means they have no more right to claim the land then any other group does.

This would be like Mexicans demanding and claiming California and Texas, although the difference is that Mexicans are were actually native to those lands, the Tatars, however, are not native to Crimea.


Turkey will never confront the Russian navy. As for aggressive stance towards NATO, what aggression was their on Russia's side? Is it Russia that has been expanding into western Europe? Last time i checked NATO kept expanding on Russia's borders, threatening them with missile shields, conducting military exercises near the Russian border, and sending foreign soldiers and military equipment near the Russian borders.

1) I said, today's Crimean native Turks are descendants of Crimean natives who lived a few centuries earlier. Is it hard to get into your brain?

2) Crimean Tatars are not Mongols, but contrary they are Turks. Your history knowledge lacks.

3) People join NATO, because of existing Russian threat. You make threats, more countries will join NATO eventually.

 

[MarkusS]

Topol has over 90% success rate. which means 9 out of 10 will impact their targets.



Economy is not the basis of safety of investment for the creditor. It is debt to GDP for nation and debt to equity for corporations which is important tool for measurement of risk. Russian debt to gdp is pretty low. Compare that with EU where several countries debt to GDP ratio is mindboggling.

Cool, so thats the reason why germany attracts so much investors that we even have a negative interest rate. That means people pay us so we accept their investments.

 

[vK_man]

Cool, so thats the reason why germany attracts so much investors that we even have a negative interest rate. That means people pay us so we accept their investments.

Maybe you could google a bit on interest rate swaps,ECB and Libor Scandal on the German bond market.

 

[ptldM3]

Greece, Cyprus, Portugal, Slovania combined have the economic power of a single german medium city like Stuttgart.

First of all you claimed that Russian GDP numbers were not better then the EU's that turned out to be a flat lie from you. Now you are changing the subject how Greece, Cyprus, ect combined have the "economic power" of a medium German city. Which you are once again talking out of your rear end.

You only make claims without ever researching; you look like a fool.

And serious, do you honestly compare a shit hole like russia with the top of the world like EU?

The EU is trash, half of the people live in poverty and are unemployed, with the exception of London, Paris, Madrid, Rome and a few other cities the rest of the EU is depressing.

Also come talk when any EU city matches Moscow and Saint Petersburg in history, culture, the arts, economy, size, modern high-rises and wealthy millionaires and billionaires.

 

[OCguy]

nope, we will get even more ukrainian land that is belonging to russia. The sanctions arent doing anything

Baghdad Bob, meet Moscow Mike.