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Hyperion, I saw a documentary on Waziristan (and nearby areas) and to my amusement the tribal leaders were young educated folks, so how come they still don't have a strong political presence and why is the area still cut off from rest of Pakistan (considering the location, there should be a lot of trade activity with Afghanistan attracting Pakistanis from all over the country).
Documentary does not show the whole picture Sedqal. Once you enter (except if you do from Jamrud or Khyber side through Peshawar as jamrud is the most developed town in all of FATA) FATA it is as if you enter another country. No large buildings, mostly dirt paths unnavigable in winter, almost no schools and colleges, lack of infrastructure, no hospitals, nothing. Just because some tribals come to cities and settle and are doing pretty well it can sometimes become easy to believe FATA is as peaceful as the Gomal river and as advanced as any place else.
FATIAN's have been purposely deprived for years upon years. The FCR, a discriminatory law applies here and politics had been banned for many years. Even now FATIAN's have only gained the right to vote for parties in other parts of Pakistan. They are not allowed to form a political party that is actually "born in FATA"
Why is it cut of from Pakistan. Ask Zia and his ****** gang. Gilgit by the way was also once ruled by the FCR but they rose up politically and took their rights. FATIAN's don't have that level of political awakening... particularly because of the tribal internecine warfare which makes them think of their tribe more than their ethnic group or as Pakistanis. Coupled with unemployment that creates an explosive mix.
Also you were looking at a miniscule group, a tiny minority of educated people-tribal elders who are better of than the rest of the people. Even among those who are educated... you know how low the standards are... it just means those who can write their name.
Now as far as education is concerned the literacy is 22% in total and just 7.5% for women! Those are the figures. Here is the map:
As far as politics is concerned the only real region that is politically active I would say is Bajaur and to a slighter extent Khyber. A person from other parts of FATA can tell you about this better. I am citing Bajaur because it produced people like Nazimuddin Khan, Adalat Khan and Malik Shah Jihan (who was assasinated by TTP)... people have often suggested it has a thriving political culture. Nizamuddin Khan Salarzai is a journalist in Vienna originally from Bajur. There are a number of others. This gives the people a Bajaur a voice.
So to conclude I will say the tribes are too disorganized and disunited to establish a political conscience and the government has kept the region backwards for strategic goals or strategic depth. I mean the literacy rate is pathetic, unemployment rate is twice the average and has skyrocketed since the taliban arrived, elders and progressives are killed by the taliban and are replaced by pro-taliban elders only too eager to fill the vacuum... its no surprise FATA is a mess and its one huge failure on our part.
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haviZsultan, your analysis is correct to a degree. Yes I agree that not all "Ma'seed's" are bad, I know about a dozen senior officers in the armed forces and ISI/MI etc etc, who love their country and have been serving their motherland for decades, however, the overwhelming majority of them have lost touch with tenants of 'Pashtunwali,' and this is not some recent phenomenon, this goes back to more than a century, you know where I am coming from and
you need to research it further.
I can write pages upon pages, but that's not how I operate. Btw, everyone you have just mentioned, I have met them once during the course of my life.
Btw, I am not a Wazir!
Wait till Luffy comes here to be proved a typical Afghan (nation) from Tora bora cave again as is his habit... you said shoot him on the head. Why not offer to buy his tongue which seems to be controlled remotely through a mechanical device used by Afghans... of course being cavemen this device is only temporary and has been provided by American masters for a period of time. I am sure he will be willing to sell his tongue as the bar Pashtuns (Afghans) have always been trying to sell themselves collectively between Russians and British.
This forum is for discussion wrora.... share your opinion as each opinion is valuable. You said it is correct to a degree... I would like you to point out the obscure parts so my book can be a success. This is also the first book about tribal people vis a vis war on terror so do share your opinion. A lot of the stuff there is from opinions of sources on the ground. Analysis of everything of course is my personal view.
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haviZsultan : I appreciate your detailed reply !
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Hyperion is not a Wazir ! I've been trying to get it out of him what he is but for some reason he won't divulge that information apart from the fact that his sub-tribe has people on both sides of the border & he is from Waziristan ! I think he might be a Shinwarri !
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Hyperion : Kiyun rora, abbb sahii guess kiyaaa ?
Lufffyyy you scandalous, slithery little snake...
And he was acting like he knew every Pashtun on PDF.
This guy is such a liar I swear. Last time he told me that someone had told him I am a son of yousaf khan and sherbano... thats a legend and they never had a son so he got depanted in the reply. lol. Sometimes yeh aisi chorta hai pata hi nahi chalta key waqai mein bol kya raha hai. I mean of course its possible. On that forum Admin Khan just made the comment that he thought I was related to Altaf Hussain.
But still, u know?
Thank you. This (my personal) knowledge looks pretty useless to me... other than for my book. No one cares really.
its okay if Hyperion doesn't want to divulge his tribe. We had a rule that made it a crime to make known your ethnicity... some hawks even started throwing people away for it. It proves a loyalty to Pakistan. Its useless to divide further. Though I can give you some hints if you want Armstrong so you can guess.
