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Transcript of Hamid Mir’s conversation

If you don't know how the law works and have never attempted to understand it, don't spew vomit across the forum.

More than 30,000 people has been killed by terrorist in this country, and not a single has been punished by these COURTS.
Hundred and thousand terrorist had been caught but fled from police custody or freed by courts.
CJ. had himself released the lal-masjid terrorist who had killed hundred of people after coming out cell.

If this is your LAW,than i really don't understand,this is not vomit ,this is question of BLOOD of 30,000 People of Pakistan.
 
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I read this in some website :-

"Hamid Mir is a big mouth.

Over a period of time his became a figure larger than life.

He was the person who claimed that OBL has got nuke, same was published on entire globe and US invaded Afghanistan.

In NDU, Islamabad, on closing day of Media Workshop in 2007, he told Mush that he and others will support him in establishing writ of government if he takes care of Lal Masjid goons. Mush took the bait and is now sitting in London.

In my view this man Hamid Mir is a USA or CIA agent working in Pakistan for US interests.

He had been given some medal or something like that by some US sponsored media organisation."
 
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More than 30,000 people has been killed by terrorist in this country, and not a single has been punished by these COURTS.
Hundred and thousand terrorist had been caught but fled from police custody or freed by courts.
CJ. had himself released the lal-masjid terrorist who had killed hundred of people after coming out cell.

I'll quote judgments of ATCs tomorrow for your mental relaxation. I'm going to sleep now. I'm not saying that ATCs have been slow in prosecuting terrorists. ATC judges have had hard times b/c authorities have been unable to provide evidence for the prosecution most of the times. All evidences are based on intelligence reports. Evidence gathered is not documented properly and therefore becomes inadmissible in court. It is the prosecution's weakness based on the fact that arresting authorities work outside the law when arresting terrorists and therefore render any prosecution impossible.

Stop viewing the law as a tribal jirga system or an ancient law system where a bunch of people sit down and sign away quick justice. It's a complex system based to nullify any chances of mistrials.

CJ does not "release" people. He passes judgments under the law based on the arguments of the prosecution and the defence, precedents of the past and interpretations of criminal law procedures.

And for the matter, SC didn't "release" Abdul Aziz in any way. His bail pleas were rejected and accepted on different charges in the ATCs of Rawalpindi District and later an appeal was heard by the IHC before being transferred to the SC.

Appeals are as the word says "appeals". The defence is to prove that the appeal plea was rejected on wrong grounds, it is not supposed to prove that granting bail should be the right path. In simple words, defence has to prove that previous decision was wrong and not that its view is right.

Understand the criminal justice system first.
 
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I'll quote judgments of ATCs tomorrow for your mental relaxation. I'm going to sleep now. I'm not saying that ATCs have been slow in prosecuting terrorists. ATC judges have had hard times b/c authorities have been unable to provide evidence for the prosecution most of the times. All evidences are based on intelligence reports. Evidence gathered is not documented properly and therefore becomes inadmissible in court. It is the prosecution's weakness based on the fact that arresting authorities work outside the law when arresting terrorists and therefore render any prosecution impossible.

Stop viewing the law as a tribal jirga system or an ancient law system where a bunch of people sit down and sign away quick justice. It's a complex system based to nullify any chances of mistrials.

CJ does not "release" people. He passes judgments under the law based on the arguments of the prosecution and the defence, precedents of the past and interpretations of criminal law procedures.

And for the matter, SC didn't "release" Abdul Aziz in any way. His bail pleas were rejected and accepted on different charges in the ATCs of Rawalpindi District and later an appeal was heard by the IHC before being transferred to the SC.

Appeals are as the word says "appeals". The defence is to prove that the appeal plea was rejected on wrong grounds, it is not supposed to prove that granting bail should be the right path. In simple words, defence has to prove that previous decision was wrong and not that its view is right.

Understand the criminal justice system first.

i think this better for u to go and sleep with your LAW, i don't need your words to understand LAW.

This is in my own personal case in court. Court has suspended the decree in favor of my opponent even his lawyer present just one time in court in three years and give no sensible reason of his absence against all notices, through courier and paper. His lawyer eventually give presence in court after account freezes by court.

On the other hand court give three year punishment to govt.minister for not appearing in court more than two month.
here suicide bomber openly admit their dirty job at media and eagerly saying the he would be release very soon.
We still has failed to defeat terrorist because they are confident that no court in Pakistan could hang them.Our Courts are most responsible in raising the moral of terrorist and demoralize the public.
Mr. Lawyer! Law is right but people intentions make it unlawful.
 
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the journalists are always in contact with different parties, but they dont mean that they have been working for em...

2ndly what if the allegations against KK were correct???



I think you have not read the transcript. Plz read that first.

Hamid Mir implicated KK as CIA agent.

Hamid should have told this to ISI and not this to Talibans, even if that was correct.
 
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From Daily Pioneer, India;

The fine print, really, is inconsequential. The fact remains that Hamid Mir is more than just chief of Geo TV; he is also in cahoots with Pakistani intelligence agencies and has strong links with organisations like the TTP which are considered ‘strategic assets’ by sections of the Islamabad-Rawalpindi political-military-jihad complex. What is also of some importance for us is that Geo TV belongs to Independent Media Corporation, which owns the Jang group of newspapers. And as we all know, the Jang group is the Pakistani partner of a well-known Indian group of newspapers in a joint venture called ‘Aman ki Asha’ which aims to promote cross-border harmony and peace. It would be perfectly in order to ask how can a media group that has die-hard Islamists with links to terrorist organisations vehemently opposed to peace with India in senior positions be a trans-border peace partner. It would also serve some purpose if we were to be told as to why the Jang group was selected over other newspaper groups or independent dailies like the Daily Times, which has played a leading role in exposing and outing Hamid Mir. Chinese whispers are not exactly reliable. But there could be some truth to the story doing the rounds that it was neither aman nor asha that prompted the partnership between the two media groups.

The Pioneer > Online Edition : >> The secret diary of Hamid Mir
 
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I think you have not read the transcript. Plz read that first.

Hamid Mir implicated KK as CIA agent.

Hamid should have told this to ISI and not this to Talibans, even if that was correct.
CIA agent, plus an ahmedi, working for america, blaming him for lal majid etc etc, what if those allegations were correct

yaar one thing its not about telling ISI, if a journalist knows, dont you think ISI knows as well???
 
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Did you care to read the responses?

It was proven that the news story about the video being fake was fallacious.


VIEW: The Swat flogging video —Samar Minallah

At a time when the entire country was under the threat of militants, I not only brought the attention of the country to this video but also condemned it at the risk of my own life. Much to the disappointment of many “professional conspirators”, the video was made by the Taliban and not by me

A year has passed since we heard the screams of a girl from Swat and saw how she was flogged by the Taliban in open view of the public. The Taliban spokesman, Muslim Khan, admitted in clear terms that the Taliban had carried out this act. Not only did he say on international electronic media that the Taliban flogged the girl in public, he also admitted that the case had not been investigated properly before the girl was punished. In addition, he has said it on record that the punishment was not carried out in the manner prescribed by Islam, where a child is supposed to administer the lashes to women. And he said that the girl should not have been flogged in the open, in the clear view of the public. Having heard all that loud and clear on TV, are we still disputing the fact whether the incident took place or not? If an Islamabad-based NGO allegedly paid money to filmmakers and actors in Swat to make a ‘fake’ video, then did the Taliban spokesman also take money to say that the Taliban indeed carried out the flogging? For those who still think the entire country suffers from memory loss, please have a look at the video at this web address, in order to refresh your memory and help you decide sensibly: YouTube - Tehreek-e-Talibaan Justified the SWAT FLOGGING.

Much to the disappointment of our ‘conspiracy theorists’, the entire country condemned the incident. People came out on the streets and the Taliban and their supporters conveniently termed it as a western conspiracy and a video produced at the behest of “anti-Islam forces”. The same Taliban apologists are again attempting to engage the people in this nonsensical argument. They ignore how the Taliban used violence against women and men, cutting throats, hanging body-parts in public places and executing people without any judicial process. They seem to have conveniently forgotten all those gruesome beheading videos in CDs that were sold openly as ‘Swat-1’ and ‘Swat-2’. All this was not only filmed by the militants but also proudly owned and disseminated by them. None were ‘fake’, none were funded by any anonymous NGO based in Islamabad. The entire world knew about them. Alas, short is the memory of our many so-called armchair analysts! “Always tell the truth. That way, you don’t have to remember what you said” — Mark Twain.

An article recently published in a local English daily alleging that the video was fake, does not bear the name of a journalist. It does not specify the name or identity of the ‘Swati man’ who claims to have made the video. It does not give the name of the NGO that supposedly paid the ‘local actors’ for acting in the ‘fake’ video. If all these were paid actors, does that imply that the Taliban leaders who admitted that the incident had happened were paid too?

At a time when the entire country was under the threat of militants, I not only brought the attention of the country to this video but also condemned it at the risk of my own life. Much to the disappointment of many “professional conspirators”, the video was made by the Taliban and not by me. My role was merely to bring it to public attention. No NGO made millions by ‘launching’ the video because the video was already on mobile phones and the internet since weeks. The only thing “added” to it was open and clear condemnation from me.

In the words of Rehana Hakim from Newsline in April 2009, “Everyone, it appears, had been silenced into submission by the Taliban guns, including the ruling ANP government. It was shocking to hear an ANP spokesperson remark that the incident had taken place before the Swat peace agreement, and that the video clip released by a Pukhtun activist to TV channels was intended to break the peace-deal! Did the incident, whether it happened now or six months back, not warrant investigation or condemnation?” If this was not the ‘right time’ to raise a voice in support of the Pakistani girl who was flogged, can someone tell me when is the ‘right time’ to do such a thing?

Thanks to the distraction and maligning campaign, I have received death threats, my credibility has been questioned, again, but only by people who do not matter. The rest have given me strength and support.

The people of Pakistan came out onto the streets so that no other girl should be treated in this manner. As for myself, I have been giving voice to the women of this country for the last 15 years, and will continue to do so. I have spoken against all forms of violations and abuse against women. If the news item titled ‘Suicide bombers have set out in search of Samar Minallah’ (Daily Mashriq, April 8, 2009) could not deter me, nothing will.

Enough of gimmickry has occurred in the name of politics and religion! Now, for yet another u- turn, again for portraying the perpetrators of the past as the heroes of today, I and many other conscious citizens of Pakistan will not let the women’s voices be muffled yet again. For all the self-proclaimed analysts who sit on their comfortable sofas commenting on how the girl could get up after she was flogged and the authenticity of the incident, a resident of Kala Kalay said, “I witnessed the flogging myself, so there is no reason to doubt the occurrence”, which was quoted in a local English daily. “At that time about 200 militants and 130 villagers were present to see the flogging of the girl. The flogging was a shocking development for the villagers. They had assembled to watch the screaming girl but everyone was frightened and helpless while the militants were unmoved,” he said.

If this is ‘fake’, what about the way Shabana was brutally killed in front of many silent spectators? All those (visible and invisible) Muslim Khans who remained unmoved have not only defamed our religion but also the integrity of each and every man and woman of Pakistan.

As for me, I will continue to challenge those who misuse Islam for power and politics. I will continue to raise my voice against individuals and political parties who use my religion to spread hatred. I will continue to expose and challenge the ‘conspiracy’ and ‘propaganda’ theories that try to befool the people of this country.

For those who continue to sit on the fence, I urge you to please join together to make our voices heard. It is essentially the sane voice of the silent majority that matters. In the words of Martin Luther King, “The ultimate tragedy is not the oppression and cruelty by the bad people, but the silence over that, by the good people.”

The writer is a research anthropologist and documentary filmmaker with an MPhil from the University of Cambridge, UK. She is the Director of an NGO, Ethnomedia. She can be reached at samarminallah@yahoo.com
as for muslim khan he himself has been going back on his own words, anyways dont wanna fall in this discussion it has been proven fake over n over again, the writer is manipulating as he is afraid to see all his efforts going down the drain nothing more, desperate attempt by a desperate writer!!!
 
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If I were Mir, I would worry less about the recording and more about the fact that the Taliban, in their nightmarish stream-of-consciousness press release, have described him as a “repudiated personality.” Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant “respected personality.” That’s some damning praise for Hamid Mir. When the Taliban thinks you are doing a good job, you need to question your life choices.

You have the wrong number, sir – The Express Tribune
 
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I read this in some website :-

"Hamid Mir is a big mouth.

Over a period of time his became a figure larger than life.

He was the person who claimed that OBL has got nuke, same was published on entire globe and US invaded Afghanistan.

In NDU, Islamabad, on closing day of Media Workshop in 2007, he told Mush that he and others will support him in establishing writ of government if he takes care of Lal Masjid goons. Mush took the bait and is now sitting in London.

In my view this man Hamid Mir is a USA or CIA agent working in Pakistan for US interests.

He had been given some medal or something like that by some US sponsored media organisation."

You are very right even his colleagues are calling him loose canon. But about

In my view this man Hamid Mir is a USA or CIA agent working in Pakistan for US interests.

He had been given some medal or something like that by some US sponsored media organisation

my heart says no.

You can say about him in punjabi “bander day huth ustra”
 
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Here is how I think it is;

Khalad Khawaja was coming in America's way. America gets Hamid Mir to get Taliban to handle Khalad Khawaja by declaring him American agent! Yes America gets his enemy declared American agent to get him out of the way. Can it get better than that? Fanatics like Taliban are a convenient tool in the hand of west. Once we understand this then we begin to see the picture. Those who speak most against US are its biggest agents. That way they get acceptance amongst public and if they do get caught no one believes that they could do such a thing. We are just too naïve and people like Hamid Mir take us for a ride every day.
 
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I have heard that intelligence agencies have accepted the tape as being authentic...........CJ...............Hang this traitor............
 
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