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qing is something pass away.
Now Hans and Manchu are in same family.
I did not see anyone targeting at normal Man people..
Yeap,there is no Qing dynasty anymore,but you should know,the history of Qing dynasty is somgthing special to us,for a person have the ancestors fought and died for this dynasty,this feeling is natural.I have no problem for someone criticize the Qing dynasty,however many of those ultra-nationalists seem only can insult Qing dynasty,think the Qing dynasty only brought bad things to China,I can't accept those
 
@sahaliyan

How did Manchurian language ended up with 18 speakers ? I mean even though Han population is overwhelming you have a considerable population according to wiki.

@al-Hasani

Ottomans also had tradition of shaving head and sometimes leaving a tail at the back.

I suspect thats a late development in the tradition of steppe peoples, because as far as I know steppe nomads before 1000s usually had long hair, Seljuk Turks are depicted with long hair, Matthew of Edessa mentions " They were armed with bows and had flowing hair like women" , visual sources also shows long braided hairs.
 
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Why you so sensitive about the history 100 years ago?
It will not bring you any thing useful right now.
The best thing is to fight for today, not for the history long time ago.
You can honor your ancestors by what you can do. Not only remember them from the history..
Looking forward!


Yeap,there is no Qing dynasty anymore,but you should know,the history of Qing dynasty is somgthing special to us,for a person have the ancestors fought and died for this dynasty,this feeling is natural.I have no problem for someone criticize the Qing dynasty,however many of those ultra-nationalists seem only can insult Qing dynasty,think the Qing dynasty only brought bad things to China,I can't accept those

The truth is that after 300 years of living together, you can hardly identify Manchu from Hans..
The Manchu only exist on ID card, not in real life..

@sahaliyan

How did Manchurian language ended up with 18 speakers ? I mean even though Han population is overwhelming you have a considerable population according to wiki.

@al-Hasani

Ottomans also had tradition of shaving head and sometimes leaving a tail at the back.
 
@sahaliyan

How did Manchurian language ended up with 18 speakers ? I mean even though Han population is overwhelming you have a considerable population according to wiki.

@al-Hasani

Ottomans also had tradition of shaving head and sometimes leaving a tail at the back.
This is hard to answer,the Manchurian language die out is a long history,after 1644,the emperors brought Manchus into Chinese proper everywhere,the Manchus lived with the Han Chinese,and were fewer in numbers than Han Chinese,so many Manchus lost their languages in middle Qing period(the Yongzheng and Qianlong era),to the end of Qing dynasty,the Manchurian speakers are already very few,most of the Manchus just speak the Chinese
 
I don't against Han Chinese have their own clothes,but this movement is anti-Manchu in nature,many people take part in it are ultra-nationalists,I'm deep worried if those people have more influence
One thing to note,the Qing dynasty never forbidden the Han females to wear their traditional clothes,and also for the elites of Uyghurs and other minorities,the Qing empire also let them dress like the Manchus and Manchu hairstyle,but not for common people.Only to Han Chinese,both the officials and common people should dress like Manchus and should have Manchu hairstyle.
You worry too much。 I likeHanfu. But I never anti Manchus. I even oppose the anti-Manchu people. The vast majority of love Hanfu people are not deliberately anti manchus.a little people just send some complaints.国内汉服吧几十万会员,你可以看一下,可有人整天盯着骂满人吗,没有。!最多是有个别人发发牢骚,我觉得这没啥大不了的。所以你多虑了。也许网上有部分人骂满人,我觉得都是些无聊之人,键盘斗士,不乏有别有用心之人,或者是从没接触过满人的人,这其中某些南方地区的某些人较多。现代满汉根本没啥区别,如果真有反满的真的是脑残。而且,现实中生活中,满汉没任何冲突
 
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Every ethnic group has its own tradition, since when wearing Hanfu is anti Manchu? Manchus have their clothing, Uygurs also keep their ethnic heritage as well. According to you, Hans can't even wear their own clothes? Wearing a fking clothes means utral nationalists? You Chinese traitor, get the hell out of here.

@Okemos What do you think?
I already suspected most Chinese here are minorities. Very interesting why they are so disproportionately active here. They are very sensitive special snowflakes that we ordinary people have to cautiously take care of. In case we hurt their ultra delicate ethnic pride we will be called chauvinist. It's ok to trash talk about Han Chinese because the government's governing authority is not from people so majority number doesn't matter such as in a democracy and Han Chinese will less likely demand independence etc while those minorities will, therefore the Chinese government has no worry about Han Chinese but constantly shower favorable policies on minorities in order to appease them. Pretty simple mindset and logic and reminds me of Russians during soviet era.

In Qing dynasty we were second class because we were ruled by invaders but now we are still being treated as second class. You do know Chinese coined PRC as later Qing dynasty. Lol
 
Seems extremely inefficient to go to the restroom with.

There is a reason why almost all asian country has switched to western style clothes, they are just superior.

This is Byzantine clothes, not much different with Asian's



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Yeap,there is no Qing dynasty anymore,but you should know,the history of Qing dynasty is somgthing special to us,for a person have the ancestors fought and died for this dynasty,this feeling is natural.I have no problem for someone criticize the Qing dynasty,however many of those ultra-nationalists seem only can insult Qing dynasty,think the Qing dynasty only brought bad things to China,I can't accept those
You can be proud of your ancestors invading China and establishing Qing dynasty but as a normal person whose ancestors were being invaded I'm not so proud. You can have your natural feelings, but would you allow me to have natural feelings too and love our ethnic clothing? You get the picture? I also don't like me or my kids being invaded. I live in the U.S. but that doesn't mean I have to embrace every ethnic on this damn planet as my so called brothers and sisters even though I don't hate anybody. I prefer hanging with other Chinese but that doesn't mean I'm anti Mexicans lol, did I appease you, my dear snowflake?
 
You can be proud of your ancestors invading China and establishing Qing dynasty but as a normal person whose ancestors were being invaded I'm not so proud. You can have your natural feelings, but would you allow me to have natural feelings too and love our ethnic clothing? You get the picture? I also don't like me or my kids being invaded. I live in the U.S. but that doesn't mean I have to embrace every ethnic on this damn planet as my so called brothers and sisters even though I don't hate anybody. I prefer hanging with other Chinese but that doesn't mean I'm anti Mexicans lol, did I appease you, my dear snowflake?
You can be proud your ancestors fought against Manchu invaders,it's their duty in later Ming-early Qing period to fought againjst Manchus,I'm nothing against it,but the Manchus conquered Hans just like Hans conquered southern minorities,the southern minorities invaded Hans?No,but they were still conquered by Han Chinese,those happed in anciet,not in modern world,so those are normal things.But then again the Qing dynasty became a Chinese dynasty later and the Manchus fought for China,to against the Jungars,the Russians,the Gurkhas,the Burmese and so on,and the bandhits of Chinese proper,many Han Chinese also took part in those actions and part of Imperial Qing army
You are from Zhejiang,in Zhejiang,it's a rare chance for people meet a Manchu,as far as I know,those anti-Manchu netizens uaually from southern China,in real life,they even can't meet Manchus,they even don't know how the Manchus lived and how the Manchus thought,still they trash the Manchus,use the words like螨虫,鞑子etc
 
Yeap,there is no Qing dynasty anymore,but you should know,the history of Qing dynasty is somgthing special to us,for a person have the ancestors fought and died for this dynasty,this feeling is natural.I have no problem for someone criticize the Qing dynasty,however many of those ultra-nationalists seem only can insult Qing dynasty,think the Qing dynasty only brought bad things to China,I can't accept those

It is important to preserve the identity and heritage of the Manchu people within present day Zhongguo. I read that there are only around 10 million Manchus left in China; do you know if there is an active policy to foster cultural renewal in provinces such as Heilongjiang? Or in Northeast China ?
 
You can be proud your ancestors fought against Manchu invaders,it's their duty in later Ming-early Qing period to fought againjst Manchus,I'm nothing against it,but the Manchus conquered Hans just like Hans conquered southern minorities,the southern minorities invaded Hans?No,but they were still conquered by Han Chinese,those happed in anciet,not in modern world,so those are normal things.But then again the Qing dynasty became a Chinese dynasty later and the Manchus fought for China,to against the Jungars,the Russians,the Gurkhas,the Burmese and so on,and the bandhits of Chinese proper,many Han Chinese also took part in those actions and part of Imperial Qing army
You are from Zhejiang,in Zhejiang,it's a rare chance for people meet a Manchu,as far as I know,those anti-Manchu netizens uaually from southern China,in real life,they even can't meet Manchus,they even don't know how the Manchus lived and how the Manchus thought,still they trash the Manchus,use the words like螨虫,鞑子etc

They always cry for how Manchurian and Mongolian harmed their ancestors, yet they always ignore the fact that Han people has been bullying (even committed genocide to) southern minorities for countless centuries.
 
They always cry for how Manchurian and Mongolian harmed their ancestors, yet they always ignore the fact that Han people has been bullying (even committed genocide to) southern minorities for countless centuries.
When has han chinese been bullying southern minorities?
 
They always cry for how Manchurian and Mongolian harmed their ancestors, yet they always ignore the fact that Han people has been bullying (even committed genocide to) southern minorities for countless centuries.
As I said before,those things happened in anciet,we can't use modern values to blame them
 
When has han chinese been bullying southern minorities?

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