Top US general says Taliban 'living in comfort' in Pakistan

[That Guy]

Pakistan/ISI involved itself heavily in the creation of the Afghan Taliban according to Benazir Bhutto, and she approved the funding neccessary for this.
That makes it Pakistan’s problem.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2008/01/02/bhutto_helped_create_taliban_monster.html

That does not mean that Pakistan fully control the Afghan Taliban, but it certainly means
lots for how people worldwide view Pakistan.
The trust in Pakistan’s willingness to do something about it, is limited at best.

Pakistan did not create the taliban, they were already an existing factions within Afghanistan, Pakistan ended up supporting them, because it became apparently that they could make Afghanistan stable quite quickly.

Afghanistan is only Pakistan's problem, so far as Afghanistan is a direct unstable neighbor, nothing more. Pakistan cannot and will not fight the Afghan war on Pakistani soil.

that is the reason pakistan supports taliban to weaken afghanistan so that their proxy can agree to durand line.

Durand line is as much a dispute to afghanistan as kashmir is to pakistan.

Try reading the rest of my comment. Even the Afghan taliban don't accept the durand line.

 

[Dalit]

LOL burn Trumpland. There ain't nothing you can do about it.

Pakistan/ISI involved itself heavily in the creation of the Afghan Taliban according to Benazir Bhutto, and she approved the funding neccessary for this.
That makes it Pakistan’s problem.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2008/01/02/bhutto_helped_create_taliban_monster.html

That does not mean that Pakistan fully control the Afghan Taliban, but it certainly means
lots for how people worldwide view Pakistan.
The trust in Pakistan’s willingness to do something about it, is limited at best.

LOL at world view of Pakistan. We know how the world views the white victims in Trumpland. The laughing stock of the entire world.

Didn't your beloved white messiah Trump once claim that ISIS was an American creation? It is funny how you would hand out lectures to others about creating anything.

We are building a fence and deporting Afghans every single day. So much for this being our problem. Try stopping us if you can.

 

[That Guy]

No we don't. Sorry to say. But that's the reason why few guy's were able to reach Mumbai cost undetected from Karachi and attacked us in 2008, it's not Indian investigators who say so, but your own investigators have also found enough credible evidence to establish that.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1198061

https://www.dawn.com/news/337915

Mark my words, anywhere there is a big wall or fences, there are always tunnels and ladders to scale them. SO don't be under an impression that complete fencing will be a great help. India especially Kashmir is a living example for that.

no border is 100% secure, so your argument is invalid from the beginning. India itself has proven that a fence can greatly reduce undetected movement across the border, and that's all that matters.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

LOL burn Trumpland. There ain't nothing you can do about it.



LOL at world view of Pakistan. We know how the world views the white victims in Trumpland. The laughing stock of the entire world.

Didn't your beloved white messiah Trump once claim that ISIS was an American creation? It is funny how you would hand out lectures to others about creating anything.

We are building a fence and deporting Afghans every single day. So much for this being our problem. Try stopping us if you can.

What beloved Trump?
If You knew anything about Europe, You would know that he is not too popular here.
Noone here would try to stop you from deporting the Afghan Taliban and supporters once and for all.
Ther feeling is however that such deportations would focus on other Afghanis.

 

[Dalit]

What beloved Trump?
If You knew anything about Europe, You would know that he is not too popular here.
Noone here would try to stop you from deporting the Afghan Taliban and supporters once and for all.
Ther feeling is however that such deportations would focus on other Afghanis.

You are a Trump worshipper from Sweden. That is common knowledge here.

You are damned right. We won’t provide refuge to Afghans who hate Pakistan. You can take them in and house them in Stockholm. The last time I heard the Europeans bribed Ghani and expelled Afghan refugees. What are you even going to talk about.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Pakistan did not create the taliban, they were already an existing factions within Afghanistan, Pakistan ended up supporting them, because it became apparently that they could make Afghanistan stable quite quickly.

Afghanistan is only Pakistan's problem, so far as Afghanistan is a direct unstable neighbor, nothing more. Pakistan cannot and will not fight the Afghan war on Pakistani soil.


Try reading the rest of my comment. Even the Afghan taliban don't accept the durand line.

Not really, there was a conflict between Gulbuddin Hekmyatar, whose forces were shelling
the forces of the Northern Alliance in Kabul.
Then the Taliban popped out of nowhere,armed to the teeth from a giant weapons
cache established by Pakistan inside Afghanistan.
The training they received, was in madrases within Pakistan.
Benazir Bhutto approved funding them.
They created themselves, but would have been nowhere without Pakistan.
Don’t forget that there are actually people here which REMEMBER what happened.
We will no fall for revisionists tryingto fake the history.

I do not believe that Pakistan controls the Afgan taliban, and their goals can sometime
differ from the goals of Pakistan
but their current position is still like it is due to support from entities like the Haqqanies.

 

[Gurjot.S]

Not really, there was a conflict between Gulbuddin Hekmyatar, whose forces were shelling
the forces of the Northern Alliance in Kabul.
Then the Taliban popped out of nowhere,armed to the teeth from a giant weapons
cache established by Pakistan inside Afghanistan.
The training they received, was in madrases within Pakistan.
Benazir Bhutto approved funding them.
They created themselves, but would have been nowhere with Pakistan.

I do not believe that Pakistan controls the Afgan taliban, and their goals can sometime
differ from the goals of Pakistanm
but their current position is still like it is due to support from entities like the Haqqanies.

Pakistan used A-stan as an extension of their own land or as a backyard for the training of mujahiddin.
Even if today, war erupts b/w india-pakistan, you will see how pakistan brings mujahids from A-stan .

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You are a Trump worshipper from Sweden. That is common knowledge here.

You are damned right. We won’t provide refuge to Afghans who hate Pakistan. You can take them in and house them in Stockholm. The last time I heard the Europeans bribed Ghani and expelled Afghan refugees. What are you even going to talk about.

I guess there is no way to fix stupid...

 

[Arsalan 345]

someone should slap this general.trump was right.nicholson failed in afghanistan.someone should sack this abnormal general.lol

 

[Kuru]

The non-cooperation stems from Afghanistan's refusal to...

A) accept the Durand line as the legitimate border

B) accept Pakistan as a free and sovereign state

The border problem is far older than the taliban issue, and it is one of the reasons why even the taliban, during their rule, started becoming hostile towards Pakistan, near the end of their regime.

As for providing safe havens, let the US designate them international terrorists, and stop providing a sanctuary in Qatar. It is ludicrous for them to ask Pakistan to help them start peace talks with the taliban, and at the same time, clamp down on them.

Afghanistan should not be Pakistan's problem, but it has been made to be so. If the west wants this, they should than listen to Pakistan's demands; the UK is providing a safe haven to one of Pakistan's biggest criminals, Altaf Hussain, and other western european nations are protecting various Baluchi terrorist leaders, all of whom are guilty of mass murder, drug trafficking, human trafficking, and various other evil acts.

A) They don't seem to accept Durand Line. The fact that even Talibs (even after having support of Pakistan to run their government in Afghanistan) became hostile to you eventually, shows that Afghanistan will NEVER accept it. Though Afghanistan is weak at the moment so it can't do much right now, but whenever their situation improves, this is going to be nasty.

B) Oh common, I can give you many links where Afghanistan head called Pakistan a brotherly 'country' so it's wrong to assume that they don't consider Pakistan a sovereign country. At least I believe it.

For the rest, I hope you aren't telling me that you provide safe havens to Talibs because the West providing shelter to Pakistani criminals, are you? If you are then it's kinda unfortunate. If you aren't, then it's fine.

IMO, Pakistan support Talibs because of so called "strategic depth?" Pakistan thinks that a India friendly government in Kabul is a threat to it?

Anyway, I firmly believe that supporting Talibs isn't gonna take you anywhere. It backfired after 9/11 and it WILL backfire again if you don't act NOW. The West don't have to think about such consequences for "supporting Pakistani criminals" but you do. Sad but true.

that is my point too, let say Pakistan do provide them safe heaven but Pakistan does not provide them arms (they never accused pakistan of it) neither does Pakistan provide them stealth transportation to go deep inside undetected do some attacks and come back to safe heaven in a stealth magic carpet. If you consider yourself the most powerful country in the world then behave like one not like crying bitch.

They enter Afghanistan and blow themselves up BEFORE the Yankees could get a hold of them? Now that's a possibility.

So what they say is, they don't attack coalition forces and then go back to Pakistan into their safe havens. They commit a suicide blast so they don't really go back.

So Pakistan shouldn't provide safe havens to them so that they can't organise themselves to conduct any attacks on coalition forces.

Ofcourse what I said is my guess. But then how else you gonna explain their accusations anyway?

 

[Thorough Pro]

Your point is stupid, even if Taliban are living in "safe heavens" in Pakistan, why don't US forces kill them when they cross over in to Afghanistan?

I think these Talibs blow themselves up (damage done) before the Americans get a chance to kill them, that's just my guess. That's the only possible explanation for their accusations.

May be their point is, why these Talibs are provided safe havens inside Pakistan in the first place ?

 

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[Kuru]

Your point is stupid,

That's not my point, it's the US' point. I only explained it.

even if Taliban are living in "safe heavens" in Pakistan, why don't US forces kill them when they cross over in to Afghanistan?

That itself explains the fact that they are unable to do it because they can't monitor the ENTIRE border with a few thousand troops. That leaves us with just option: Pakistan provides safe havens to the Talibs.These Talibs then organise themselves, cross over the border (which can't be monitored) and attack in Afghanistan. Hence the US accusations.

 

[Path-Finder]

This is from earlier this year! Pakistan is the perfect scapegoat

U.S. Concerned Russia Supplying Arms To Afghan Taliban


https://www.rferl.org/a/afghanistan-mattis-nicholson-russia-arming-taliban/28449422.html

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Ah... once again the Swan Song.... of Pathetic Opera of Absurd Impotence...

in the Second Act comes... Do more... do more...

And the Third Act... Sipping Tea in GHQ Pindi...

Final Act... New AF-Pak Policy by the new Adminstration...

If the good Americans haven't figured out that they are sunk deep in the quicksands of AF hellhole... then their sweet gods may help them.

16 years... This Swan Song is still being played.

Silly?

Sad?

Or Brilliant Strategy?

Instead of US's containing Russia/China via Afganisan, looks like it's the opposite now!!!