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It is my impression that Mr Jennah's first Constitution of Pakistan was less a theocratic governance system than some would think it to be now in 2014. That is an internal affair for Pakistanis to decide of course. But it might make for another new topic for today's discussion?
I respectfully understood the Muslim theocratic nation states was the theme/topic started yesterday. Yes, you meant and referred to "Muslim majority/Muslim focused" nation states. But I wrote here to politely suggest broadening and changing that focus. In part to address the implied idea that because a nation state was Muslim (theocratic) that it's achievements you alluded to were for some reason better than, more than, superlative to other nation states which are either Muslim majority but secular in governance and/or had a large Muslim majority population achieving, if you will great things who "happened to be Muslims, but not necessarily because they are Muslims."
As I wrote in essence yesterday we need to stop thinking worldwide in terms of majority any religion nations and start thinking in terms of what you would see as ethnic achievements in any or all nations where your faith system is both in a majority OR in a minority.
To me, my opinion only, it creates and perpetuates a less than the brotherhood of all mankind view, which in current times has been abused and misused to promote religious intolerance, terrorism and such instead of recognizing unique contributions of your Muslim worldwide family in the bigger, broader sense of we are all the children of Abraham.
You might want to see my comments yesterday about the views I hold as a Christian on the Tower or Babel, in our Holy Bible, Old Testament, when God punished mankind for mankind's arrogance by creating many languages to stop the "man being equal to God" attitude found in that Bible story of the failed attempt to build the Tower of Babel "to Heaven to be equal to God Himself." My view is that we were not Arabs, Orientals, other various ethnic and racial identieis up to the time of the Tower of Babel. Places like China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, India, Pakistan, etc did not exist. There was no nation, other than the nation of God. Then came the vanity of the Tower of Bable, mankind was splintered into difference language groups, which to my belief also included being separated, worldwide, into what became different racial hence ethnic groups. Tribes if you will.
No rudeness or disrespect is meant on my part. Of course your views, vs. mine, stands, as that is what you wanted to focus.
My goal and role here I suppose is to seek better ethnic and religious, nation to nation, understanding to take the edge off so to speak. Your tone is not hostile but I simply felt and some others here might prefer to also read a broader view, where you are a Muslim, I am a Christian, others are Jews, etc, but we are all the Children of Abraham, sons of the same God.
It is sort of like our Columbus Day Celebration here in the US when our fellow citizens who are of Italian descent celebrate the historic fact that an Italian discovered the New World where America exists today.l
I apologize for my digression from your topic, as my membership here rests on having served in the USAF, at the old Karach based US Embassy, with my higher HQ I supported having been at Badabur, outside Peshawar, in the NWFP of the nation of Pakistan. Air power and related coordinated uses of all branches of armed forces is the purpose of this site, in the main.
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I respectfully understood the Muslim theocratic nation states was the theme/topic started yesterday. Yes, you meant and referred to "Muslim majority/Muslim focused" nation states. But I wrote here to politely suggest broadening and changing that focus. In part to address the implied idea that because a nation state was Muslim (theocratic) that it's achievements you alluded to were for some reason better than, more than, superlative to other nation states which are either Muslim majority but secular in governance and/or had a large Muslim majority population achieving, if you will great things who "happened to be Muslims, but not necessarily because they are Muslims."
As I wrote in essence yesterday we need to stop thinking worldwide in terms of majority any religion nations and start thinking in terms of what you would see as ethnic achievements in any or all nations where your faith system is both in a majority OR in a minority.
To me, my opinion only, it creates and perpetuates a less than the brotherhood of all mankind view, which in current times has been abused and misused to promote religious intolerance, terrorism and such instead of recognizing unique contributions of your Muslim worldwide family in the bigger, broader sense of we are all the children of Abraham.
You might want to see my comments yesterday about the views I hold as a Christian on the Tower or Babel, in our Holy Bible, Old Testament, when God punished mankind for mankind's arrogance by creating many languages to stop the "man being equal to God" attitude found in that Bible story of the failed attempt to build the Tower of Babel "to Heaven to be equal to God Himself." My view is that we were not Arabs, Orientals, other various ethnic and racial identieis up to the time of the Tower of Babel. Places like China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, India, Pakistan, etc did not exist. There was no nation, other than the nation of God. Then came the vanity of the Tower of Bable, mankind was splintered into difference language groups, which to my belief also included being separated, worldwide, into what became different racial hence ethnic groups. Tribes if you will.
No rudeness or disrespect is meant on my part. Of course your views, vs. mine, stands, as that is what you wanted to focus.
My goal and role here I suppose is to seek better ethnic and religious, nation to nation, understanding to take the edge off so to speak. Your tone is not hostile but I simply felt and some others here might prefer to also read a broader view, where you are a Muslim, I am a Christian, others are Jews, etc, but we are all the Children of Abraham, sons of the same God.
It is sort of like our Columbus Day Celebration here in the US when our fellow citizens who are of Italian descent celebrate the historic fact that an Italian discovered the New World where America exists today.l
I apologize for my digression from your topic, as my membership here rests on having served in the USAF, at the old Karach based US Embassy, with my higher HQ I supported having been at Badabur, outside Peshawar, in the NWFP of the nation of Pakistan. Air power and related coordinated uses of all branches of armed forces is the purpose of this site, in the main.
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