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Tons of Gold in Indian Temples, lacs of crore Cash, nothing for local Indians

If it generates 440 million USD, how is this a charitable hospital.

There is no hospital in India like the shaukat khanum cancer hospital with 75% free healthcare for poor.

And it has a deficit of 500 crore yearly, not a profit making concern.

Shaukat Khanum is a copy of the Tata memorial model. There are at least 38 hospitals in India that do it, 39 including Tata.
What does that mean people gave money, though it is a charitable hospital.

Here charity run hospitals don't take any money from the patients, financed by charity money.

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'People give money'- people like me, who give every month, plus 10 million people who give Rs 20 a month to get their insurance, plus foreign patients who get surgery done there and cross-subsidize the surgeries of the poor.
 
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when I visited somnath temple 2 months ago, The inside of sanctum sanctorum was covered with gold plates including doors, up to outside area. Now the gold plating work of 1400 kalash has begun. Here are some pictures.
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This temple was flooding with gold , diamond and lracious stone when .ohamnad gazni looted it. It is great to see its glory coming back. Narendra modi is one of the trustee of the temple.
Gold plating work of entire Ambaji temple is also underway



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For Ram temple in Ayodya, Rs 5200 crore is collected.

When Nitin Gadkari wanted to build Ganga ghat with Government money, Modi advised jom to do it with donation. Few thoussnd crore donation is received for that as well. Ujjain temple has fund of few thousand crore as well.
 
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He claimed that Muslims cannot match India in charity while i shared the WGI with him where 6-8 muslims countries are above India.

Then i mentioned about Edhi foundation he came up with this biggest hospital and claimed that a single doctor has performed 35000 surgeries while official record place Dr Panda at 20,000 surgeries.

Then he claimed that 50,000 free heart surgeries are done by this hospital however you cannot find this hospital in top 10 charity organizations.

These guys are delusional to a point where facts don't matter to them.

I hope admins will take care of this garbage


Let them come with the hubris and subterfuge.

How will we know about them their ideology and thinking without interacting with them.
 
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As this article suggests, Indians are Hobbesian where even Gods have to be bribed.


Brian from Godzone
NEW ZEALAND


Indians are Hobbesian
(Culture of self interest)



Corruption in India is a cultural aspect. Indians seem to think nothing peculiar about corruption. It is everywhere.

Indians tolerate corrupt individuals rather than correct them.

No race can be congenitally corrupt.

But can a race be corrupted by its culture?

To know why Indians are corrupt, look at their patterns and practices.

First:

Religion is transactional in India.

Indians give God cash and anticipate an out-of-turn reward.

Such a plea acknowledges that favours are needed for the undeserving.

In the world outside the temple walls, such a transaction is named “bribe”.

A wealthy Indian gives not cash to temples, but gold crowns and such baubles.

His gifts can not feed the poor. His pay-off is for God. He thinks it will be wasted if it goes to a needy man.

In June 2009, The Hindu published a report of Karnataka minister G. Janardhan Reddy gifting a crown of gold and diamonds worth Rs 45 crore to Tirupati.


India’s temples collect so much that they don’t know what to do with it. Billions are gathering dust in temple vaults.

When Europeans came to India they built schools. When Indians go to Europe & USA, they build temples.

Indians believe that if God accepts money for his favours, then nothing is wrong in doing the same thing. This is why Indians are so easily corruptible.

Indian culture accommodates such transactions morally. There is no real stigma. An utterly corrupt JayaLalita can make a comeback, just unthinkable in the West.

Second –

Indian moral ambiguity towards corruption is visible in its history. Indian history tells of the capture of cities and kingdoms after guards were paid off to open the gates, and commanders paid off to surrender.

This is unique to India.

Indians’ corrupt nature has meant limited warfare on the subcontinent.

It is striking how little Indians have actually fought compared to ancient Greece and modern Europe.

The Turks’ battles with Nadir Shah were vicious and fought to the finish.

In India fighting wasn’t needed, bribing was enough to see off armies.

Any invader willing to spend cash could brush aside India’s kings, no matter how many tens of thousands soldiers were in their infantry.

Little resistance was given by the Indians at the “ Battle ” of Plassey.

Clive paid off Mir Jaffar and all of Bengal folded to an army of 3,000.

There was always a financial exchange to taking Indian forts. Golconda was captured in 1687 after the secret back door was left open.

Mughals vanquished Marathas and Rajputs with nothing but bribes.

The Raja of Srinagar gave up Dara Shikoh’s son Sulaiman to Aurangzeb after receiving a bribe.

There are many cases where Indians participated on a large scale in treason due to bribery.

Question is: Why Indians have a transactional culture while other ‘civilized’ nations don’t?

Third –

Indians do not believe in the theory that they all can rise if each of them behaves morally, because that is not the message of their faith.

Their caste system separates them.

They don’t believe that all men are equal.

This resulted in their division and migration to other religions.

Many Hindus started their own faith like Sikh, Jain, Buddha and many converted to Christianity and Islam.

The result is that Indians don’t trust one another.

There are no Indians in India, there are Hindus, Christians, Muslims and what not.

Indians forget that 400 years ago they all belonged to one faith.

This division evolved an unhealthy culture. The inequality has resulted in a corrupt society, in India every one is thus against everyone else, except God and even he must be bribed.

Brian from Godzone
NEW ZEALAND


I have often thought so but have also said “it cannot be so bad”! May be I am wrong but I.did not have iti me to join the bribe takers even though it means to be one with our Gods!! Would youxhort all and sundry to explore change.?
SHANTONU SEN
 
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Shaukat Khanum is a copy of the Tata memorial model. There are at least 38 hospitals in India that do it, 39 including Tata.

There are nine cancer hospitals run by PAEC, and shaukat khanum has about 75% patients on charity, TATA has about 5% patients on charity.
 
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As this article suggests, Indians are Hobbesian where even Gods have to be bribed.


Brian from Godzone
NEW ZEALAND


Indians are Hobbesian
(Culture of self interest)



Corruption in India is a cultural aspect. Indians seem to think nothing peculiar about corruption. It is everywhere.

Indians tolerate corrupt individuals rather than correct them.

No race can be congenitally corrupt.

But can a race be corrupted by its culture?

To know why Indians are corrupt, look at their patterns and practices.

First:

Religion is transactional in India.

Indians give God cash and anticipate an out-of-turn reward.

Such a plea acknowledges that favours are needed for the undeserving.

In the world outside the temple walls, such a transaction is named “bribe”.

A wealthy Indian gives not cash to temples, but gold crowns and such baubles.

His gifts can not feed the poor. His pay-off is for God. He thinks it will be wasted if it goes to a needy man.

In June 2009, The Hindu published a report of Karnataka minister G. Janardhan Reddy gifting a crown of gold and diamonds worth Rs 45 crore to Tirupati.


India’s temples collect so much that they don’t know what to do with it. Billions are gathering dust in temple vaults.

When Europeans came to India they built schools. When Indians go to Europe & USA, they build temples.

Indians believe that if God accepts money for his favours, then nothing is wrong in doing the same thing. This is why Indians are so easily corruptible.

Indian culture accommodates such transactions morally. There is no real stigma. An utterly corrupt JayaLalita can make a comeback, just unthinkable in the West.

Second –

Indian moral ambiguity towards corruption is visible in its history. Indian history tells of the capture of cities and kingdoms after guards were paid off to open the gates, and commanders paid off to surrender.

This is unique to India.

Indians’ corrupt nature has meant limited warfare on the subcontinent.

It is striking how little Indians have actually fought compared to ancient Greece and modern Europe.

The Turks’ battles with Nadir Shah were vicious and fought to the finish.

In India fighting wasn’t needed, bribing was enough to see off armies.

Any invader willing to spend cash could brush aside India’s kings, no matter how many tens of thousands soldiers were in their infantry.

Little resistance was given by the Indians at the “ Battle ” of Plassey.

Clive paid off Mir Jaffar and all of Bengal folded to an army of 3,000.

There was always a financial exchange to taking Indian forts. Golconda was captured in 1687 after the secret back door was left open.

Mughals vanquished Marathas and Rajputs with nothing but bribes.

The Raja of Srinagar gave up Dara Shikoh’s son Sulaiman to Aurangzeb after receiving a bribe.

There are many cases where Indians participated on a large scale in treason due to bribery.

Question is: Why Indians have a transactional culture while other ‘civilized’ nations don’t?

Third –

Indians do not believe in the theory that they all can rise if each of them behaves morally, because that is not the message of their faith.

Their caste system separates them.

They don’t believe that all men are equal.

This resulted in their division and migration to other religions.

Many Hindus started their own faith like Sikh, Jain, Buddha and many converted to Christianity and Islam.

The result is that Indians don’t trust one another.

There are no Indians in India, there are Hindus, Christians, Muslims and what not.

Indians forget that 400 years ago they all belonged to one faith.

This division evolved an unhealthy culture. The inequality has resulted in a corrupt society, in India every one is thus against everyone else, except God and even he must be bribed.

Brian from Godzone
NEW ZEALAND


I have often thought so but have also said “it cannot be so bad”! May be I am wrong but I.did not have iti me to join the bribe takers even though it means to be one with our Gods!! Would youxhort all and sundry to explore change.? SHANTONU SEN


This is so apt, an eye opener, and full with real content.

Thoroughly breaking the stereotypes of largest democracy, secular and tolerant India...and all the fake portrayal of vibrant shining bharat.
 
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This temple was flooding with gold , diamond and lracious stone when .ohamnad gazni looted it. It is great to see its glory coming back. Narendra modi is one of the trustee of the temple.
Gold ating work of entire Ambaji temple is also underway.View attachment 738538View attachment 738539
Janta bhoki mar rhi ha tum sonay k mandir bnatay jao.
 
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This is nothing compared to what went on before Muslims invaded India. The lower castes were taxed to death and the Brahmins hid all the gold in numerous temples, each of which had hundreds of female entertainers and prostitutes ready to serve the Brahmin priestly class at all times.

So Ghaznavi actually did the natives a great favor by serving Brahmins a good dose of Karma. When he invaded the natives should have taken the opportunity and levelled Somnath to ground as a symbolic act against tyranny and oppression but for some reason non-Brahmins Indians don't have it in them to rise up and change their society which is why they are stuck with caste system for more than 3000 years.
 
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So at least now people know which temples to conquer in India where the gold is hidden. :lol:

Yes so that next attack like Mahemood Gazani can be done with better planning.
 
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There are nine cancer hospitals run by PAEC, and shaukat khanum has about 75% patients on charity, TATA has about 5% patients on charity.

All needy patients get subsidies. Why should I get charity? I have money. I can pay. And my money can cross-subsidize other poor people. And 10 million people 'insured' by paying barely 20 a month cannot be techncally on 'charity'. But it is a throwaway amount that allows 100s of 1000s of more surgeries.

Shaukat Khanum being terribly mismanaged and just a political ploy for IK won't take such decisions. Rs. 20 is amount you spend on buying a chai in local chai stall. It will easily help 2000 more people to get treated. IK won't do it because he's incompetent and he can't fool people like you.
 
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