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With the consolidation of the Tibetan empire in the seventh century AD under the Yarlung kings there was increasing contact between Tibet, India and China, establishing a lasting pattern of cultural contact and exchange. Under Srong brTsan sGam Po (around 618-41) scholars were sent to India to develop a system of writing for the Tibetan language and, as part of treaty negotiations with the Chinese, the emperor married a Tang dynasty (618-907) princess.
The arrival of the Indian-born master Atisha in 1042 is generally regarded as the culmination of the ‘second propagation’ of Buddhism in Tibet.
British Museum - Tibetan culture
this dude is a total nutcase lol i cant even begin to understand his mind.
Every incident India learned leason
1) After 1962 we never trust enybody blindly,
2) After kargil we came to know how our neighbour given reply to our Priminister goodwill visit to Islmabad,
3) After Chine's incursion in AP we came to know how to defend our country so we make huge military purchases
un less china & pakistan not setteled border dispute with India we never trust them
Very interesting and informative views in here. A lot of angle, from genetics and historical. However, in terms of political perspective, there is not going to be any war between China and India over the dispute territories. In reality, if the dispute is just about the border territories, its a simple question as both sides can recognize each other's LOC claims and move on. However, the dispute is certainly not about border territories.
The dispute is kept alive by China so it can interfere and support Pakistan if needed. For India, I'm not as clear because it makes no sense to continue a border dispute with China. If I'm the foreign policy beauracrat in India, I would suggest settle the border dispute with China with the LOC becoming the international border. Than India can concerntrate on dealing with the Kashmir issue. But I would only make this public if China is serious about settling the border issue.
India's China Blog: You Scratch my Back, But I Wont Scratch yours
Read the blog post above, you can do internet searches everything posted is a historical fact and the blog is written by an indian.
No it is NOT CHINA's fault, history does not lie. China's first offer to india was 70% for India, 30% for China. India refused. China gave the same offer all the wat to 1990 before upping it to 74%. India still refused.
It is not the matter of numbers. India is more interested in 20 to 30% that China is not willing to give rather than the 70% that China is willing. You have to understand the stragetical value of those territories. It is not a piece of cake where more the better.
The problem is that you do not view these people as chinese, I do. I have studied this matter extensively and the people living in these areas have almost the same DNA as us and almost no DNA in common with the average Hindu that makes up the majority of India. I would not have a problem if India was treating these people well, but we all know the truth that if these areas became part of China these people will be able to visit their families living in Tibet. The Chinese government actually makes an effort to provide all their citizens with clean water, education and shelter something that the Indian government is seemingly incapable of. These people are culturally and genetically similar to use yet they are controlled by some government that can't even care for their own people for the sole purpose of exploiting the natural resources in the land. Historically, culturally, genetically they are part of China while India has no claim whatsoever other than BRITAIN USED TO OWN IT SO NOW IT BELONGS TO US! The same argument could be used for something ridiculous like the USA belongs to India.
Brain's response muted when we see other races in pain - life - 01 July 2009 - New Scientist
The brain is not an equal opportunities organ, it seems. An imaging study of Chinese and Caucasian people has found that their brains respond less strongly to the pain of strangers whose ethnicity is different when compared with strangers of their own race.
@chauism
In all the mayhem before you; it is nice to see your post which has a measured and balanced viewpoint. And i appreciate your outlook. Only if we hold viewpoints like that can we hope to find solutions to problems. Fortunately for all of us, both the Governments in China and India are concentrating on the primary tasks at hand i.e. pushing Economic Growth. Just imagine if they had spent time quibbling over 'sq. km of territory' instead. The rest of the world would be looking differently at us then.
Re: Future China India Relations
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There are something other than history I have to point out, the more issues or problems we have among ourselves in Asia with each other, the more excuses others will have to meddle in our own affairs. Why should we give them the opportunities and pleasure of doing so? Divide and conquer is not a tactics that died with British colonism. It still exists in a very different form. I think everyone should seriously think about that before taking out on its own neighbours.
New Recruit
Well thats the level of idiocy that you can go!?How was it China's fault? all experts agree on the same thing, the chinese wanted to negotiate, Nehru refused and sent his troops in to claim the disputed territory declaring that he will drive out all chinese. China's only goal was to keep the Indians out of the disputed territory and once they achieved that they declared a cease fire.
The chinese were also extremely nice to Indian POW's, and they even returned all their captured weapons free of charge.
YouTube - The crushing moment: China India 1962 war - Part 2
Akasai Chin is also primarily Tibetan, They don't look like Hindus to me. This area has always been part of the tibetan empire till it was conquered by the kingdom of Ladakh.
The only people who have any claim to this land is Tibet of the kingdom of Ladakh which no longer exists. These people almost have 100% nothing to do with Hindus or pakistani
Very interesting and informative views in here. A lot of angle, from genetics and historical. However, in terms of political perspective, there is not going to be any war between China and India over the dispute territories. In reality, if the dispute is just about the border territories, its a simple question as both sides can recognize each other's LAC claims and move on. However, the dispute is certainly not about border territories.
The dispute is kept alive by China so it can interfere and support Pakistan if needed. For India, I'm not as clear because it makes no sense to continue a border dispute with China. If I'm the foreign policy beauracrat in India, I would suggest settle the border dispute with China with the LAC becoming the international border. Than India can concerntrate on dealing with the Kashmir issue. But I would only make this public if China is serious about settling the border issue.
Dear Sir,
You do realise that on the comical relief side of the picture, most of this thundering ***' claims are wrong, particularly his genetic claims, not to mention his ethnicity, linguistic and script-claims. I suppose it is because everybody is busy otherwise that he does not get the comeuppance that he richly deserves.
Coming to your more serious points, I do not think China is extending the border dispute. I think that until even a decade ago, China was willing to concede territory in the east, based on agreeing on the watershed line as the border, provided that the ownership of Aksai Chin became clearly that of the Tibet Autonomous Region. It is just that they are unhappy to see India dragging her feet again and again, and have allowed their irritation to show.
India, on the other hand, is unable to accept even this most agreeable compromise because neither the Congress nor the BJP is willing to allow the other to arrive at this compromise. A pity.
Sincerely,