Time to side with India to cut off ISI: US Senator

[foxbat]

Rather, it's a conspiracy theories the bharatis have deluded themselves into believing.

You got your theories and we got our truths

 

[Secur]

You got your theories and we got our truths

Last time i checked the map , I saw that Afghanistan is a landlocked country with no geographical boundary with India ... So how are you going to do all that ?

 

[SMC]

You got your theories and we got our truths

No, you got your conspiracy theories and we have the ground reality.

 

[foxbat]

No, you got your conspiracy theories and we have the ground reality.

buddy, you did not understand.. Its a play on words.. For everyone (both Indians and Pakistanis) their pov is the truth and the opposing view is the theory..

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

like i said, job well done to the spooky services

i enjoy every second these ******** blame anything and everything on ISI. . .


actually to be honest, if all these allegations that these dot-heads make everyday are true --then I say its a good thing. Good revenge for their own actions

 

[foxbat]

like i said, job well done to the spooky services

i enjoy every second these ******** blame anything and everything on ISI. . .


actually to be honest, if all these allegations that these dot-heads make everyday are true --then I say its a good thing. Good revenge for their own actions

forget the Indians (the ones you call dot heads, you racist ), wasnt ISI clubbed with Terrorist outfits during GITMO interrogations.. ???

 

[gubbi]

actually to be honest, if all these allegations that these dot-heads make everyday are true --then I say its a good thing. Good revenge for their own actions

Lol at "dot-heads"! And lol at "revenge'! I didnt know 'revenge' meant certain "calloused heads" given extreme powers in setting the course for one's own country on a destructive path and claiming victory!

 

[SMC]

forget the Indians (the ones you call dot heads, you racist ), wasnt ISI clubbed with Terrorist outfits during GITMO interrogations.. ???

By the same country that attacked Iraq over WMDs and for being involved in 9/11

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

the same one which relies every day on ISI

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Lol at "dot-heads"! And lol at "revenge'! I didnt know 'revenge' meant certain "calloused heads" given extreme powers in setting the course for one's own country on a destructive path and claiming victory!

they keep us safer....without them who knows what else would be happening, we have many enemies.....your country being the primary one, regrettably

and yes, 'revenge'.....absolutely. I hope indian allegations are true.

 

[joekrish]

I don't know if it would be the right choice for Pakistan to end things with the US on a bad note. It would always be better to part ways when the situation is a lot cooler. They are a strong country and could only damage the interests of Pakistan in the international arena be it trade orother affairs. Pakistan would need a lot of help financelly to come out of the mess that it's in today
The biggest question is if Pakistan would be able to fit China in the place of US is a wait and watch period.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

what fits Pakistan is an independent foreign policy and I think this is something that people like Imran Khan want to push for. . .

it isn't about "fitting" one against the other, it's about safe-guarding our national interests.....and it's clear that Pakistan and NATO occupation forces in Afghanistan do not exactly see eye-to-eye on certain critical issues. So be it.

we have a right to protect our interests, and work hard to see to it that those interests are realized. . .i wont go into specifics, but anybody with half a brain will understand what I'm trying to say

officially speaking, Pakistani govt. is "reviewing" the way we do things bilaterally vis-a-vis Afghanistan and the region. . .doesnt mean anything is being "ended" anyways, it's only people on the forum making such speculation


many things SHOULD be reviewed......and that includes "aid" to Pakistan which some in Washington think is some bone. In actuality, Pakistan has paid the highest price out of any other country in this war against terrorism. Pakistan be damned if it doesnt stand up for its interests --and if that means going against interests of foes or allies alike --so be it. We ought not to even blink.


important to stand firm.......


Quaid e Azam Jinnah sahib ---founding father of the great Pakistani Nation said it best:


Think 100 times before you take a decision.
.....Once that decision is taken, stand by it as one man.

 

[foxbat]

By the same country that attacked Iraq over WMDs and for being involved in 9/11

yup.. the same country that has been bombing your civilians for last number of years using the facilities provided by your military

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the same one which relies every day on ISI

Yup.. werent you the one who claimed that CIA cant find their ways around the parking lot without ISI help a week before they took out OBL within a military garrison of Pakistan while ISI was sleeping comfortably in their beds

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

i guess they saw how militancy, if left unchecked, could yield us a scenario like what we see in an over-populated hindstan --where insurgents/separatists/insurrectionists have presence in more than 1/3 of the country

it's laughable how indians look on our side while their northeastern population is terrorized by blasts and gun attacks on the hour every hour (including several audaciously spectacular ones in the past 5 days)

 

[moha199]

come one guys he is bal thakeray of USA seriously what is wrong with Pakistanis. we give importance to every single of opponent. His remarks hold no value, USA can never and will never abandon Pakistan and ISI and Pakistan will not abandon USA and CIA, we are at difficult time but soon nato supply will be open, we will blame Afghanistan for NATO attack and USA will come to new terms with us, No need to get worked up! Don't give him importance.

Time to side with India to cut off ISI: US Senator




WASHINGTON: Contending that US relationship with Pakistan had reached a dead end, an American lawmaker has said there was a sense among Congressmen that time had come to "side" with India to "cut off the ISI".

Senator Mark Kirk said at a discussion forum by prestigious Washington-based think tank, Foreign Policy Initiative, that a US-India tie-up was ISI's "horror story" but time had come for it to evolve.

"You know, Yogi Bear said when you reach a fork in the road, take it. I think we hit the fork in the road in August and September between the United States and Pakistan. We saw a large truck bomb assembled, lit off next to a US base, 77 US casualties," Kirk said.

In recent times US' ties with Pakistan, a key ally in the region, have plunged to an all-time low following a series of incidents over the year, including the killing of two people by a CIA contractor, the Abbottabad raid, and finally the NATO airstrike that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

"My sense of the Senate and probably the House is we're ready to take that fork in the road. We're ready to side with India, to cut off the ISI," the Illinois Senator said.

"It appears to me the Pakistani horror story of us siding with India should now evolve. Pakistan has decided we're leaving. Pakistan has decided that they can cripple the civilian government," he said.

The United States, he said, needs a stable party in the region who has a status quo pro-civilian anti-terror interest, which is India.

"And in many ways, this is the ISI horror story, but I would say they picked this, and we should now arrange that fate for them," he said in response to a question.

Kirk urged General Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to play what he called "hard ball" with Pakistan.

"Get in with the Indian Intelligence Service, the Indian Chief of Staff, bring Indian, not just economic but military assistance on line, and build some long relationships so that in the mid-presidential term next time, the 2014 time frame, you have a steady partner with new money coming on the table that can send an important signal to Afghanistan," Kirk said.

Appearing on the same discussion forum, Congressman Adam Kinzinger, noted that in many cases, actors react more favourably when you are willing to use the stick as a way to get your will done.

"I think as a nation, we have to begin exploring more of those options. How to be a little more difficult, how to be a little harder, how to hold the Pakistanis a little more accountable," he said.


Time to side with India to cut off ISI: US Senator - The Times of India

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The USA wants to use India as a counter to Pakistan and China.

It was obvious from the beginning.

 

[foxbat]

i guess they saw how militancy, if left unchecked, could yield us a scenario like what we see in an over-populated hindstan --where insurgents/separatists/insurrectionists have presence in more than 1/3 of the country

it's laughable how indians look on our side while their northeastern population is terrorized by blasts and gun attacks on the hour every hour (including several audaciously spectacular ones in the past 5 days)

Never pegged you to be the one deluded by fake sense of comfort based on propaganda.. well, live and learn