Time for BD to buy J-10CE?

[UKBengali]

FC-1 block 3 would be close to 35 million each, J-10C will be between 60 to 65 million each.

FC-1 block 3 with AESA Radar and PL-15 would be perfect for BD.

Not going to happen due to relations between BD and Pakistan.

Although Block 3 is good plane, Rafale + Meteor would have edge and so BD would prefer J-10C + PL-15.

 

[Indos]

Not going to happen due to relations between BD and Pakistan.

Although Block 3 is good plane, Rafale + Meteor would have edge and so BD would prefer J-10C + PL-15.

Better to wait until 2026 where KFX and TFX are expected to be mass produced. You are not in rush, dont you ? Your choice is even bigger if China sell their J 20 and J 31.

KFX is also started to be developed into block 2 in 2021 according to latest Jane Defense report, so there are chance you can buy block 2 variant before 2030. The engine is also more mature than Chinese one with 2 F 414 turbofan who power Superhornet. We dont know yet the lifespan of Chinese engine. KFX is also equipped with Meteor missile.

 

[UKBengali]

Better to wait until 2026 where KFX and TFX are expected to be mass produced. You are not in rush, dont you ? Your choice is even bigger if China sell their J 20 and J 31.

KFX is also started to be developed into block 2 in 2021 according to latest Jane Defense report, so there are chance you can buy block 2 variant before 2030. The engine is also more mature than Chinese one with 2 F 414 turbofan who power Superhornet. We dont know yet the lifespan of Chinese engine. KFX is also equipped with Meteor missile.

For India only total Chinese plane can be counted on.

US will always prefer India due to economics and geopolitics.

Engine will be US and I suppose AAMs will also either be US or have US tech in them.

BD cannot really wait and needs a plane that can counter Rafale + Meteor asap.

PS - Yes Chinese engine will have less life but at least you only need to swap out one and it will cost around half that of a Western one.

 

[Tom-tom]

Well India will have zero say as US wants to sell F-16s to BD.
This is public from both governments and India dare not utter a single word against this.

As for the Indian Muslims, well India is not going to do a Myanmar and force them out.
I think the Indians are hoping that by making their life miserable then Muslims will leave for BD and BD will allow them in. Only time will tell what happens.

India may have say, as you have not calculated, that India for now is part of US 'contain China policy'.
It depends how useful India can be to US against China.
As Bangladesh is largely playing the balancing act whilst leaning towards China.

 

[UKBengali]

India may have say, as you have not calculated, that India for now is part of US 'contain China policy'.
It depends how useful India can be to US against China.
As Bangladesh is largely playing the balancing act whilst leaning towards China.

The reason why I say India will have zero say is that US would sell something like 24-36 F-16s to BD and these will not be the latest Block 70/72s with 5th gen avionics and AESA radar. BD will also not get the AIM-120D I am sure. US initially did not even want to sell AMRAAM to BD!
This plane will be no match for Rafale F-3(AESA) radar with Meteor missile.

 

[American Pakistani]

That’s where your argument fails, Pakistan made the bombs so it would deter India from war or misadventures in Kashmir, the bombs failed to achieve Pakistan’s objective and all its left with is crippling debt and a bad reputation in the world thanks to its military

Pakistan made the bomb for its defense and to show middle finger to Bharti terrorist black mail. That is well achieved. Pakistan has fought wars/skirmishes with India both before and after the bomb. So I have no clue what you are talking about.

If you read the newspapers from India of may 1998, you will understand better what I'm trying to say in this post.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Good luck mate. If they have similarly wired people calling shots in Dhaka. You guys need a lot of it.

Alright mind your own businesses in the west too

Who said the bombs failed, has India in 70 years been able to take Azad Kashmir? Even whilst being 7 times larger in population
Earlier in 2019, 45 Indian troops were blown to pieces
India couldn't even fake a bombing run to throw a bone to it's people telling them revenge had been obtained
Because Pakistani pressure ensured they missed their targets
Pakistani capabilities ensured we were able to militarily respond and hit multiple Indian military targets
Our planning and training ensured in the ensuing air combat Pakistan won the battle by shooting Indian planes out of the sky
To top it all off the Indians were so flustered they shot their own helicopter down killing 6 more Indian military personnel

THAT is planning and capability
And P.S the responsibility of your military is to do what's necessary to protect your country's interests not seek approval from the world, west or anybody else

Well kargil whose plan was to take vet the entirety of Kashmir failed even though the bombs existed.
And so this similar plans from earlier...
Occupied Kashmir has no internet connection for five months now and more troops in their and Pakistan couldn’t do anything about it. So yes in essence the bombs failed to be decisive for Pakistan

 

[American Pakistani]

Where is the question of Sh***ing? We entered 80 km inside and came back safely. Our 6 planes countered about 20 planes of PAF and scored a kill of 4th generation plane in exchange of a second generation plane.

Yes yes just like you killed 300 or 3000 or 3 lakh or 3 million. Keep getting high on cow ca cola.

 

[jupiter2007]

Not going to happen due to relations between BD and Pakistan.

Although Block 3 is good plane, Rafale + Meteor would have edge and so BD would prefer J-10C + PL-15.

I am sure you can get FC-1 directly from China.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

I am sure you can get FC-1 directly from China.

They have issues with Mayanmar.

 

[American Pakistani]

Well kargil whose plan was to take vet the entirety of Kashmir failed even though the bombs existed.
And so this similar plans from earlier...
Occupied Kashmir has no internet connection for five months now and more troops in their and Pakistan couldn’t do anything about it. So yes in essence the bombs failed to be decisive for Pakistan

Pakistan did capture Kargil and adjacent. Indian occupied suffered heavy casualties on ground and in the air. You can search it up. Pakistan won that militarily but lost diplomatically or politically because just like you we too have foreign appeasing politicians. Nawaz sharif threw the then army chief musharraf and ordered withdrawal of Pakistani troops because India went bitching to united states and else where. Clinton gave $$$ to sharif and sharif sold himself. Later sharif was exiled by court because of this treason.

Having said all that, Pakistan still holds major peaks in Kargil liberated in 99. Those peaks give clear view of entire surrounding Indian posts and also the main highway /supply route for Indian occupier troops in the region and on siachen. In any future war pakistan can easily cut their supplies by artillery bombing the route or just by heavy machine gun firing to any supply convoys or reinforcements by higher grounds that Pakistan still holds.

India failed to regain/ reoccupy these areas despite trying multiple times after 99.

Similarly in 2019 Pakistani jets pounded about 6 locations in Indian controlled region. Shot 2 of their jets without losing any. India was so frustrated that they were planning to launch missile strike in Pakistan. Pakistan replied by exposing this and making it clear that any missile strike will be dealt accordingly and the nuclear weapons could be used which is how India shit its panties and pulled back.

 

[UKBengali]

I am sure you can get FC-1 directly from China.

I think Pakistan needs to ok it and neither BD and Pakistan would be interested for the procurement to go ahead.
Like I say JF-17 Block 3 is very good for the price and will be able to take on Rafale as long as it was armed with PL-15(although Rafale would have an edge due to canard delta and higher T/W ratio) but BAF would only be interested in J-10C.

 

[graphican]

I think Pakistan needs to ok it and neither BD and Pakistan would be interested for the procurement to go ahead.
Like I say JF-17 Block 3 is very good for the price and will be able to take on Rafale as long as it was armed with PL-15(although Rafale would have an edge due to canard delta and higher T/W ratio) but BAF would only be interested in J-10C.

Currently, Bangladesh is sitting in the Indin club and I don't see top military hardware sold either by China or India.

 

[UKBengali]

Currently, Bangladesh is sitting in the Indin club and I don't see top military hardware sold either by China or India.

Credible reports say China pitched it's J-10CE to BD already.

There is no "India club" as they have neither money or military tech to provide BD to make it interested in becoming a client state.

BD does not publicly talk bad about India as it wants to focus on it's economic and military development.

 

[LKJ86]

Better to wait until 2026 where KFX and TFX are expected to be mass produced. You are not in rush, dont you ? Your choice is even bigger if China sell their J 20 and J 31.

KFX is also started to be developed into block 2 in 2021 according to latest Jane Defense report, so there are chance you can buy block 2 variant before 2030. The engine is also more mature than Chinese one with 2 F 414 turbofan who power Superhornet. We dont know yet the lifespan of Chinese engine. KFX is also equipped with Meteor missile.

Do you think other competitors would do nothing , just waiting for KFX?