Tillerson: Today I’d like to address Iran’s alarming and ongoing provocations that export terror

[BHarwana]

If the US were to move militarily against Iran, there would be little Russia can do, other than give political and material support. The Russians wouldn't be able to send troops into Iran, just like how the US can't put any large amount of troops in Syria, due to a fear of direct conflict between the two forces.

Finally you diverted towards me. I have a question, Why hasn't USA attacked Iran till now. I will also give you an answer but first I would like to know what do you think.

 

[Attila the Hun]

What you just wrote apply to you word to word your erdogan doing exactly what you have written problems with almost every neighbor around you.

When my country get sanctioned , then I will worry.

Well unfortunately Turkey is another iraq in making Trust me I love turkey but that what I see alas.

No disrespect but, Turkiye is nothing like Iraq.

 

[That Guy]

China is a different case sir. Their economy is dependent on each other. If USA is collapsed, China will have economical collapse too. It is complicated, we are not dependent on piggies.

First of all, have a bit of respect for other nationalities. Second, you're ignoring my main point, but let's say you're right.

It still doesn't change the fact that Iran cannot win.

We will get harms too, undeniable truth but there must be a reason that they never could try it. As i said they can wage a war on us but they cannot finish the war on their own. Look at Yemen, they are our minimized brothers, American piggies + coalition couldn't defeat them yet. We know how to fight

Yemen doesn't have the US military actively engaged in large numbers, it's mainly the GCC nations, in particular KSA. The US troops that ARE engaged (a small number of special forces), are fighting AQ and Daesh, and not participating in the civil war.

Also, it won't just be harm, it will likely be a one sided slaughter, just like it was in Iraq. Do not underestimate the US military's desire to use its military might to the fullest degree.

 

[LeGenD]

Thanks for advice, but warmonger's respond will be warmongering. We will not withdraw, they must apologize for their bad behavior

In Persian gulf, we are Fasl ul Khitab. They are strong within their own territory not in Persian gulf

I admire your courage but it is clouding your judgement. If you are a soldier than I understand your confidence and sense of duty. Still, no harm in understanding greater realities.

US is strong in both defensive and offensive type of operations. Geography is almost irrelevant to them.

They have seven strike fleets - each comprising of aircraft carriers, submarines, destroyers and other stuff. And those vessels are truly state-of-the-art.

Vessels aside, US has most advanced surveillance system in place. In modern era, 'situational awareness' is the key to success in the battlefield. Even if you have a large number of missiles and stuff like that, you cannot just shoot them blindly and hope to score some wonderful hits. Expect state-wide jamming activity and disruption of your command and control facilities during the opening phase of hostilities. Once your organization is disrupted, your assets will be easy pickings from the air. US is the only state with pecision-strike capability on a mass scale. No other state comes close in this regard.

Other states try to avoid a confrontation with the US due to valid reasons. North Korean leadership barks a lot because it feels confident that Chinese would protect them. However, they are really pushing their luck. Should US decide to topple North Korean regime, no power in the world can stop them.

 

[Aryzin]

China is a different case sir. Their economy is dependent on each other. If USA is collapsed, China will have economical collapse too. It is complicated, we are not dependent on piggies.

We will get harms too, undeniable truth but there must be a reason that they never could try it. As i said they can wage a war on us but they cannot finish the war on their own. Look at Yemen, they are our minimized brothers, American piggies + coalition couldn't defeat them yet. We know how to fight

@mohammad45, wow you really are clueless. The reason US hasn't attacked is because most Iranians are pro American. Just because you are related to a mullah or make profits from their theft of Iranian wealth, it doesn't mean rest of your people are like you. I hope we don't go to war but if we do rest assured you will not be winning and probably your country will be damaged greatly ah and plus that do you forget Arabs? They will flock to an American operation.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Believe me American you will kneel to me , not someone else , when oil hits 300$ per barrel. Your f***ed up economy cannot tolerate it with almost 20 trillion $ in debt.
You won't last even for a week. If we could deal with PGCC countries then you have no place in our military calculations. Your naval forces will get sunken in the first hours of war with thousands of piggies dead onboard. I know that we will also get harmed of war but you will cry again baby!. You will pay the price of warmongering within one week. Where ever you go, we will follow you piggies

lol

When we are attacked, there will be no compliment. I was talking about war time not when we are at peace
Those human being piggies were violating our territorial waters. And don't be worried about the piggies, they were well behaved. They were scared, not our fault

Yes, All Americans are scared of Iran lol
Stop this nonsense already. US could end your lives if they wanted to.

 

[That Guy]

Finally you diverted towards me. I have a question, Why hasn't USA attacked Iran till now. I will also give you an answer but first I would like to know what do you think.

Public opinion. The US public is sick of getting involved in the middle east, they don't want to spend tax dollars rebuilding nations that they've invaded and destroyed (see Iraq and Afghanistan).

Obama has, to his credit, successfully employed diplomacy to get Iran to fall in a relative line (see Iran and its nuclear program).

It has never been because the US military is weak, or because they don't want to go into Iran; The truth is that the Pentagon, and top military generals have, for the last few decades, demanded that Washington authorize strikes against Iran. Political pressure, but internal and external, has stopped any sort of military adventurism against Iran, and that's with KSA and Israel constantly demanding that the US invade Iran.

 

[Muhammed45]

First of all, have a bit of respect for other nationalities. Second, you're ignoring my main point, but let's say you're right.

It still doesn't change the fact that Iran cannot win.


Yemen doesn't have the US military actively engaged in large numbers, it's mainly the GCC nations, in particular KSA. The US troops that ARE engaged (a small number of special forces), are fighting AQ and Daesh, and not participating in the civil war.

Also, it won't just be harm, it will likely be a one sided slaughter, just like it was in Iraq. Do not underestimate the US military's desire to use its military might to the fullest degree.

I admire your courage but it is clouding your judgement. If you are a soldier than I understand your confidence and sense of duty. Still, no harm in understanding greater realities.

US is strong in both defensive and offensive type of operations. Geography is almost irrelevant to them.

They have seven strike fleets - each comprising of aircraft carriers, submarines, destroyers and other stuff. And those vessels are truly state-of-the-art.

Vessels aside, US has most advanced surveillance system in place. In modern era, situational awareness is the key to success in the battlefield. Even if you have a large number of missiles and stuff like that, you cannot shoot them blindly and hope to achieve score wonderful hits. Expect state-wide jamming activity and disruption of your command and control facilities durinf the opening phase of hostilities.

I am not underestimating them and i am aware of their might. We are prepared for it
Thanks for the reply both you guys.

 

[Śakra]

@925boy , you have a good point but you look at war in different terms. We don't need to have huge invasion. Iran is not WWII Germany, Iranian military will not last long. No offense but you think Iran will play chess game but US will go it a different way.

Donald Trump plays 4D chess while iran only knows Tic-Tac-Toe. iran best not provoke America.

 

[BHarwana]

Public opinion. The US public is sick of getting involved in the middle east, they don't want to spend tax dollars rebuilding nations that they've invaded and destroyed (see Iraq and Afghanistan).

Obama has, to his credit, successfully employed diplomacy to get Iran to fall in a relative line (see Iran and its nuclear program).

It has never been because the US military is weak, or because they don't want to go into Iran; The truth is that the Pentagon, and top military generals have, for the last few decades, demanded that Washington authorize strikes against Iran. Political pressure, but internal and external, has stopped any sort of military adventurism against Iran, and that's with KSA constantly demanding that the US invade Iran.

You are wrong. Afghanistan and Iraq were Invaded because of Iran. If USA attacks Iran, Pakistan will join Iran and it will be an all out war. Please don't reply that Pakistan will not do so because there is a reason for that.

 

[That Guy]

@mohammad45, wow you really are clueless. The reason US hasn't attacked is because most Iranians are pro American. Just because you are related to a mullah or make profits from their theft of Iranian wealth, it doesn't mean rest of your people are like you. I hope we don't go to war but if we do rest assured you will not be winning and probably your country will be damaged greatly ah and plus that do you forget Arabs? They will flock to an American operation.

GCC would probably pay for the entire war, if it was clear that the US would attack Iran.

 

[Malik Alashter]

When my country get sanctioned , then I will worry.


No disrespect but, Turkiye is nothing like Iraq.

Ihope turkey stay intact and prosper

my friend our iraq was the first country in the middle east to use super computer it was about to leave the third world at the end of the seventies we had the best education system! but look when a maniac rules where the country end.

 

[LeGenD]

You are wrong. Afghanistan and Iraq were Invaded because of Iran. If USA attacks Iran, Pakistan will join Iran and it will be an all out war. Please don't reply that Pakistan will not do so because there is a reason for that.

 

[That Guy]

You are wrong. Afghanistan and Iraq were Invaded because of Iran. If USA attacks Iran, Pakistan will join Iran and it will be an all out war. Please don't reply that Pakistan will not do so because there is a reason for that.

Pakistan is more pro-KSA, than it is pro-Iran. If the US invades Iran, Pakistan won't do a damn thing. Pakistan may say that it is against the invasion, just like it did with Iraq, but it won't actively oppose the US.

As for Iraq and Afghanistan being invaded, I'm right. Iran may have helped facilitate the invasion of Afghanistan, but it certainly didn't like the fact that the US continues to occupy it. Iran has been accused of giving material support to the taliban. In Iraq, Iran just took advantage of the situation, the US certainly didn't invade Iraq to appease Iran. In fact, Iran actively supported the insurgency against US forces in Iraq.

To say that the US somehow started two wars, in order to please Iran, in a thread about the US threatening action against Iran, that's honestly delusional.

 

[BHarwana]

I have a valid reason. Forget Iran for once, in case of a world war what will be two alliances that will fight the war?