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Thousands of people are leaving Hong Kong — and now it’s clear where they’re going​

PUBLISHED FRI, MAY 27 20221:26 AM EDTUPDATED FRI, MAY 27 20228:46 PM EDT
Monica Buchanan Pitrelli@MONICAPITRELLI

KEY POINTS
  • Hong Kong lost 93,000 residents in 2020, followed by another 23,000 in 2021. But early estimates show this year will see far more people go.
  • Many people and companies are moving to Singapore, though some expatriates are returning home and Hong Kongers are applying for residency under new visa programs launched in Canada and the United Kingdom.
  • There’s also an increase in moves from Hong Kong to Dubai, Japan, South Korea and Thailand, according to insiders.
They stuck it out during the political protests of 2019.
Then they lasted through nearly two years of pandemic.

But this year, they say they’ve had enough.

Residents of Hong Kong are leaving the city in droves in 2022 — not because they want to, several told CNBC, but because Covid restrictions and what they see as an erosion of democratic norms are pushing them to leave.

A surge in departures is accelerating a “brain drain” of professional talent — a situation which hit fever pitch around March, as omicron-driven Covid cases skyrocketed across the city.
Now Hong Kong’s ever-chipper lifestyle websites, once dominated by articles about the city’s best dim sum and foot massages parlors, are focusing on moving to-do lists and farewell gift guides.

‘Absolute mass exodus’

The office of Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but Lam said on April 26 that the government’s Covid rules balance health and economic interests with public tolerance levels.

Hong Kong continues to safeguard “human rights and freedoms” but that “one has to observe the law in exercising freedom,” she said.
On the subject of people leaving Hong Kong, Lam said it’s their “individual freedom to enter and to exit.”

For the past 60 years, Hong Kong’s population has grown nearly every year, from some 3.2 million people in 1961 to 7.5 million in 2019, according to Hong Kong’s Census and Statistics Department.

From 2015 to 2019, the city gained an average of 53,000 new residents per year. Yet that is roughly the same number of people who departed Hong Kong during the first two weeks of March alone, according to the city’s Immigration Department.

Hong Kong lost some 93,000 residents in 2020, followed by another 23,000 in 2021. But early estimates show this year will see far more people go.

“In the last couple of years people have thought about leaving, but in the last six months there’s been an absolute mass exodus,” said Pei C., who has lived in Hong Kong for 17 years. She asked to be identified with her last initial because of sensitivities surrounding the topic in Hong Kong.

The trigger, she said — one echoed by numerous people who spoke to CNBC for this story — was the highly-publicized policy that separated Covid-positive children from their parents earlier this year.

“A lot of parents, understandably, freaked out, so they booked themselves on the first flights out,” she said.

Pei estimates that 60-70% of her friends have left in the past six to 12 months, which includes people with businesses and family in Hong Kong as well as those who were once deeply committed to staying.

Moving to Singapore

Most people leaving, said Pei, are headed to same place: Singapore.
“Everyone’s going to Singapore,” said Pei, especially those working in finance, law and recruitment, she said.

Kay Kutt, CEO of the Hong-Kong based relocation company Silk Relo, agreed, saying people are attracted to the ease of business, family friendliness, tax incentives and open borders of Singapore.
In its 40-year existence, the past three years have been the busiest years on record for Silk Relo’s sister moving company, Asian Tigers, she said.

“We cannot keep up with the capacity,” she said. “We don’t have enough people to serve what’s going on in the marketplace.”

Families are transferring to Singapore, she said, but small- and medium-sized businesses are also on the move. Whereas one company executive might have left in the past, now “they’re all going,” she said. Small companies are “taking the entire team and putting them into Singapore.”

Large companies are also relocating to Singapore, said Cynthia Ang, an executive director at the recruitment firm Kerry Consulting. She cited L’Oreal, Moet Hennessy and VF Corporation — the latter which owns brands such as Timberland and North Face — as examples, while noting there are more who haven’t made their decisions public yet.

“We get more calls from our clients who are … sharing with us that they’re going to move the entire Asia Pacific office into Singapore,” she said.
Other companies are staying in Hong Kong, but downsizing their offices, and moving regional headquarters to Singapore, said Ang.

Australian Krystle Edwards said she’s lived in Hong Kong for 12 years and wants to stay, but she and her husband are going to decide whether to leave by September.
“If the situation looks like 2023 is going to be more of the same in Hong Kong — hotel quarantine restrictions, all that sort of stuff — we’re moving to Singapore,” she said.
“It gets to a point where it’s just too much.”

When temporary become permanent

Some people are riding out Hong Kong’s tight Covid restrictions by taking extended vacations, said Edwards.

“A lot of families that I know have gone away for like three or four months,” said Edwards. “Heaps are in Thailand — they just packed up and went to Phuket or [Koh] Samui. … They all got villas, some have even put their kids in school there, and they said they’ll come back to Hong Kong in August or September.”

Many expatriates went home for a few months this year. Now Pei said she’s noticing a lot of these people are not coming back.

Kutt said this is “absolutely” happening, as evidenced by the number of moves occurring without clients present. Before Covid, “absent shippers” were rare, she said, but due to the number of requests, Silk Relo created a service whereby an on-site team member acts on behalf of a client who can’t be present for a move.

Leaving for good

Lockdown and quarantine policies coupled with a merry-go-round of school closures caused many expatriates to return home — to the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and other countries — for good, said Kutt.

But deeply entrenched locals are leaving too, she said.

Hong Kong-born Kam Lun Yeung said his family is moving to Sydney, where he lived as a child.

“We do consider [Hong Kong] home, and it is difficult leaving especially considering how much we have invested emotionally in the city,” he said. However, “the 2019 protests to the current pandemic situation and seeing friends leaving already … made our decision a little bit easier.”

Lisa Terauchi grew up in Hong Kong, but left just shy of her 45th birthday, after her husband lost his job as a captain with Cathay Dragon, a Hong Kong-based airline that shuttered operations in late 2020. She and her family moved to the Netherlands, where her husband is from.

Hong Kong “was no longer the country I had grown up in, it was no longer the country I remembered,” she said.


Terauchi said she has friends who are leaving, some who have lived there longer than she did. Though her oldest son is completing his master’s degree in Hong Kong, she said she and her husband likely won’t return, even to maintain their permanent residency status.

“I mean, is it even worth it anymore?” she said.
Others have moved to the United Kingdom and Canada, said Kutt. During the pandemic, both countries launched visa programs granting eligible Hong Kong residents the right to reside within their jurisdictions.

Immigration from Hong Kong to Canada is “booming,” according to the Canadian immigration website, CIC News. Yet even more are relocating to the United Kingdom, with more than 100,000 applying to move as of March.

“I noticed, especially I think it was March, the number of calls [from] … long-standing old Hong Kong families … they have high net worth, might have multiple homes, they’re choosing to pack up and go,” said Kutt.
“Those were the ones that I would say rocked me to the core,” said Kutt, who has lived in Hong Kong for more than 30 years.

Where else?

Silk Relo and Asian Tigers are also seeing an “uptick” in moves from Hong Kong to Japan, South Korea and Thailand, said Kutt.

“We’re seeing companies choosing Tokyo,” she said, which she indicated was surprising given that Tokyo has historically been a place for companies solely looking to access the Japanese market.
Dubai is also absorbing talent from Hong Kong, said Kerry Consulting’s Ang. She said that is especially true for American and European employers that already have a presence there.
Pepsi, Unilever and P&G moved people out of Hong Kong into Dubai, she said.

“Saudi Arabia is trying to fight for a slice of the pie” too, said Ang. “I’ve not physically seen anyone who’s that excited about moving to Saudi Arabia yet …” but places in the Middle East, including the United Arab Emirates, are “trying to mirror what Dubai has done over the last couple of years.”

 
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Finally we got some good news, when we can kick these pro west thugs all out of Hong kong and repopulate the city with patriotic, hardworking population from the mainland, Hong kong finally is totally back to China. Those thug tried to destroy Hong kong but only ended up being destroyed, the government should work out some laws to ban them from coming back in the future.

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Indeed, those who left hk will be easily replaced by many patriotic mainlander who are eager to settle in HK. Another defeat by western thugs. :enjoy:
 
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Indeed, those who left hk will be easily replaced by many patriotic mainlander who are eager to settle in HK. Another defeat by western thugs. :enjoy:
With GDP per capita higher than US, it should be very difficult to find people willing to move to settle in Hong kong.

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I guessed they were moving to shenzhen or guangzhou and other better cities.
 
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Thousands of people are leaving Hong Kong — and now it’s clear where they’re going​

PUBLISHED FRI, MAY 27 20221:26 AM EDTUPDATED FRI, MAY 27 20228:46 PM EDT
Monica Buchanan Pitrelli@MONICAPITRELLI

KEY POINTS
  • Hong Kong lost 93,000 residents in 2020, followed by another 23,000 in 2021. But early estimates show this year will see far more people go.
  • Many people and companies are moving to Singapore, though some expatriates are returning home and Hong Kongers are applying for residency under new visa programs launched in Canada and the United Kingdom.
  • There’s also an increase in moves from Hong Kong to Dubai, Japan, South Korea and Thailand, according to insiders.
They stuck it out during the political protests of 2019.
Then they lasted through nearly two years of pandemic.

But this year, they say they’ve had enough.

Residents of Hong Kong are leaving the city in droves in 2022 — not because they want to, several told CNBC, but because Covid restrictions and what they see as an erosion of democratic norms are pushing them to leave.

A surge in departures is accelerating a “brain drain” of professional talent — a situation which hit fever pitch around March, as omicron-driven Covid cases skyrocketed across the city.
Now Hong Kong’s ever-chipper lifestyle websites, once dominated by articles about the city’s best dim sum and foot massages parlors, are focusing on moving to-do lists and farewell gift guides.

‘Absolute mass exodus’

The office of Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but Lam said on April 26 that the government’s Covid rules balance health and economic interests with public tolerance levels.

Hong Kong continues to safeguard “human rights and freedoms” but that “one has to observe the law in exercising freedom,” she said.
On the subject of people leaving Hong Kong, Lam said it’s their “individual freedom to enter and to exit.”

For the past 60 years, Hong Kong’s population has grown nearly every year, from some 3.2 million people in 1961 to 7.5 million in 2019, according to Hong Kong’s Census and Statistics Department.

From 2015 to 2019, the city gained an average of 53,000 new residents per year. Yet that is roughly the same number of people who departed Hong Kong during the first two weeks of March alone, according to the city’s Immigration Department.

Hong Kong lost some 93,000 residents in 2020, followed by another 23,000 in 2021. But early estimates show this year will see far more people go.

“In the last couple of years people have thought about leaving, but in the last six months there’s been an absolute mass exodus,” said Pei C., who has lived in Hong Kong for 17 years. She asked to be identified with her last initial because of sensitivities surrounding the topic in Hong Kong.

The trigger, she said — one echoed by numerous people who spoke to CNBC for this story — was the highly-publicized policy that separated Covid-positive children from their parents earlier this year.

“A lot of parents, understandably, freaked out, so they booked themselves on the first flights out,” she said.

Pei estimates that 60-70% of her friends have left in the past six to 12 months, which includes people with businesses and family in Hong Kong as well as those who were once deeply committed to staying.

Moving to Singapore

Most people leaving, said Pei, are headed to same place: Singapore.
“Everyone’s going to Singapore,” said Pei, especially those working in finance, law and recruitment, she said.

Kay Kutt, CEO of the Hong-Kong based relocation company Silk Relo, agreed, saying people are attracted to the ease of business, family friendliness, tax incentives and open borders of Singapore.
In its 40-year existence, the past three years have been the busiest years on record for Silk Relo’s sister moving company, Asian Tigers, she said.

“We cannot keep up with the capacity,” she said. “We don’t have enough people to serve what’s going on in the marketplace.”

Families are transferring to Singapore, she said, but small- and medium-sized businesses are also on the move. Whereas one company executive might have left in the past, now “they’re all going,” she said. Small companies are “taking the entire team and putting them into Singapore.”

Large companies are also relocating to Singapore, said Cynthia Ang, an executive director at the recruitment firm Kerry Consulting. She cited L’Oreal, Moet Hennessy and VF Corporation — the latter which owns brands such as Timberland and North Face — as examples, while noting there are more who haven’t made their decisions public yet.

“We get more calls from our clients who are … sharing with us that they’re going to move the entire Asia Pacific office into Singapore,” she said.
Other companies are staying in Hong Kong, but downsizing their offices, and moving regional headquarters to Singapore, said Ang.

Australian Krystle Edwards said she’s lived in Hong Kong for 12 years and wants to stay, but she and her husband are going to decide whether to leave by September.
“If the situation looks like 2023 is going to be more of the same in Hong Kong — hotel quarantine restrictions, all that sort of stuff — we’re moving to Singapore,” she said.
“It gets to a point where it’s just too much.”

When temporary become permanent

Some people are riding out Hong Kong’s tight Covid restrictions by taking extended vacations, said Edwards.

“A lot of families that I know have gone away for like three or four months,” said Edwards. “Heaps are in Thailand — they just packed up and went to Phuket or [Koh] Samui. … They all got villas, some have even put their kids in school there, and they said they’ll come back to Hong Kong in August or September.”

Many expatriates went home for a few months this year. Now Pei said she’s noticing a lot of these people are not coming back.

Kutt said this is “absolutely” happening, as evidenced by the number of moves occurring without clients present. Before Covid, “absent shippers” were rare, she said, but due to the number of requests, Silk Relo created a service whereby an on-site team member acts on behalf of a client who can’t be present for a move.

Leaving for good

Lockdown and quarantine policies coupled with a merry-go-round of school closures caused many expatriates to return home — to the United States, United Kingdom, Australia and other countries — for good, said Kutt.

But deeply entrenched locals are leaving too, she said.

Hong Kong-born Kam Lun Yeung said his family is moving to Sydney, where he lived as a child.

“We do consider [Hong Kong] home, and it is difficult leaving especially considering how much we have invested emotionally in the city,” he said. However, “the 2019 protests to the current pandemic situation and seeing friends leaving already … made our decision a little bit easier.”

Lisa Terauchi grew up in Hong Kong, but left just shy of her 45th birthday, after her husband lost his job as a captain with Cathay Dragon, a Hong Kong-based airline that shuttered operations in late 2020. She and her family moved to the Netherlands, where her husband is from.

Hong Kong “was no longer the country I had grown up in, it was no longer the country I remembered,” she said.


Terauchi said she has friends who are leaving, some who have lived there longer than she did. Though her oldest son is completing his master’s degree in Hong Kong, she said she and her husband likely won’t return, even to maintain their permanent residency status.

“I mean, is it even worth it anymore?” she said.
Others have moved to the United Kingdom and Canada, said Kutt. During the pandemic, both countries launched visa programs granting eligible Hong Kong residents the right to reside within their jurisdictions.

Immigration from Hong Kong to Canada is “booming,” according to the Canadian immigration website, CIC News. Yet even more are relocating to the United Kingdom, with more than 100,000 applying to move as of March.

“I noticed, especially I think it was March, the number of calls [from] … long-standing old Hong Kong families … they have high net worth, might have multiple homes, they’re choosing to pack up and go,” said Kutt.
“Those were the ones that I would say rocked me to the core,” said Kutt, who has lived in Hong Kong for more than 30 years.

Where else?

Silk Relo and Asian Tigers are also seeing an “uptick” in moves from Hong Kong to Japan, South Korea and Thailand, said Kutt.

“We’re seeing companies choosing Tokyo,” she said, which she indicated was surprising given that Tokyo has historically been a place for companies solely looking to access the Japanese market.
Dubai is also absorbing talent from Hong Kong, said Kerry Consulting’s Ang. She said that is especially true for American and European employers that already have a presence there.
Pepsi, Unilever and P&G moved people out of Hong Kong into Dubai, she said.

“Saudi Arabia is trying to fight for a slice of the pie” too, said Ang. “I’ve not physically seen anyone who’s that excited about moving to Saudi Arabia yet …” but places in the Middle East, including the United Arab Emirates, are “trying to mirror what Dubai has done over the last couple of years.”


We have had loads come here and settle in greater London. They like the green areas open spaces and good schools. They have plenty of money and go straight into jobs. Dare I say one of the best waves of migration we have had in many years.
I'm not surprised Singapore is the top destination. They mention ease of business, great living standards, security etc but they fail to mention it is majority Chinese which would probably be a draw as well. No doubt Singapore would welcome this boost their population which is struggling a little with birth rates.
The others are all headed to Asian nations i.e. Thailand, Japan etc.
 
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We have had loads come here and settle in greater London. They like the green areas open spaces and good schools. They have plenty of money and go straight into jobs. Dare I say one of the best waves of migration we have had in many years.
I'm not surprised Singapore is the top destination. They mention ease of business, great living standards, security etc but they fail to mention it is majority Chinese which would probably be a draw as well. No doubt Singapore would welcome this boost their population which is struggling a little with birth rates.
The others are all headed to Asian nations i.e. Thailand, Japan etc.

I don't see how the members here could be so eager to cheer for their countrymen to move to a foreign land. While it is hard to make everybody happy it is sad that people find the situation so incredibly bad they just get up and leave their native land forever...and it isn't even due to economic reasons (which likely drives most immigration)...just disgust with the government.

After every US Presidential election you hear about a list of insanely angry people saying they give up and want to move to Canada. In the end very few actually do. With 10's of thousands of HKers actually doing it says a lot.
 
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People are a resource and the rich/technical people with higher IQs are the best resource. It's a shame they are leaving in droves, tbh.
 
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Finally we got some good news, when we can kick these pro west thugs all out of Hong kong and repopulate the city with patriotic, hardworking population from the mainland, Hong kong finally is totally back to China. Those thug tried to destroy Hong kong but only ended up being destroyed, the government should work out some laws to ban them from coming back in the future.

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wow, what a eyesore of a collection.
Its like a exhibit of tackiness from a dictatorship.
 
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People are a resource and the rich/technical people with higher IQs are the best resource. It's a shame they are leaving in droves, tbh.
They trashed Hong kong for at least two years, destroyed and vandalized everything in Hong kong, during the same time, Hong kong 's GDP was overtaken by Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Chongqing, they are the true poison of the cities, not resources, the city was in total anarchiy due to those thugs.
Now Hong kong is back to normal and economy quickly picks up, no more daily riots, no more social turbulence, the west failed again to destablise China through Hong kong, the true high IQ talents never left Hong kong, and China has a lot of them eager to move to Hong kong after the city is stablised. No talents like to live in a daily riot city.

Scientists leave the UK as China overtakes US as most favoured destination​


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wow, what a eyesore of a collection.
Its like a exhibit of tackiness from a dictatorship.
Glad to hurt your eyes, the world majority of eye sores are found in India, this word itself is a eye sore. If Hong kong is an eye sore, how come tens of thousands of Indians live in our Hong kong? they can leave now.
 
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Hong kong needs to kick out these white trash too

Foreign woman asks Hongkong bus driver to "go back to China", the driver tells her she is in China
Foreign woman was stopped trying to get onto a bus in Hongkong because she didn't wear a mask and was with a dog, the woman started to swear at the bus driver and told the driver to " go back to China'. The bus driver politely told her that she is in China, Hongkong is a Chinese city.

 
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They trashed Hong kong for at least two years, destroyed and vandalized everything in Hong kong, during the same time, Hong kong 's GDP was overtaken by Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Chongqing, they are the true poison of the cities, not resources, the city was in total anarchiy due to those thugs.
Now Hong kong is back to normal and economy quickly picks up, no more daily riots, no more social turbulence, the west failed again to destablise China through Hong kong, the true high IQ talents never left Hong kong, and China has a lot of them eager to move to Hong kong after the city is stablised. No talents like to live in a daily riot city.

Scientists leave the UK as China overtakes US as most favoured destination​


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Glad to hurt your eyes, the world majority of eye sores are found in India, this word itself is a eye sore. If Hong kong is an eye sore, how come tens of thousands of Indians live in our Hong kong? they can leave now.
first of all hk is nominally Chinese.
They refer to mainlanders like you as locusts.
You might want to shift to hk but they dont want you.
Its a occupied area , like tibet , and kept in Chinese control through naked violence.
Frankly didn't even like the city. Its like mumbai , too busy and mercantile for me.
 
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first of all hk is nominally Chinese.
They refer to mainlanders like you as locusts.
You might want to shift to hk but they dont want you.
Its a occupied area , like tibet , and kept in Chinese control through naked violence.
Frankly didn't even like the city. Its like mumbai , too busy and mercantile for me.
Hong kong is a Chinese city, if anyone who doesn't want to be Chinese, they are free to leave, we don't need Indians opinion on our cities, Indians should all leave. Tibet is a rich a prosperous region that Indians can only dream they can become one day.
 
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