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[Solomon2]

I stopped reading right there!

Yup, reflexive anti-Zionism is a Pakistani problem all right. Blinds out everything else, doesn't it?

 

[AshishDelhi]

We can live wherever we want...it is not as if we are living in their countries for free. Muslims are some of the most professional and rich communities in their countries. Oh and most charitable.
Muslims 'Give Most To Charity', Ahead Of Christians, Jews And Atheists, Poll Finds
We just demand a certain level of decency. And I am not talking about nut jobs like Anjem Chaudry.

You can't live in my house by your rules even if you are right. You follow my rules or get lost. In this case French govt and majority of French people have supported publishing of cartoon. You can either show your displeasure or go back to your country. You can't shoot people.

 

[rockstar08]

The first part is getting very dangerous at least in South Asia and Middle East. Doctors, Engineers and high profile techies are getting turning to radicals. How do we separate them? Take the Boston Bombing or Bin Laden as well. I think this is the biggest reason trust and gap is widening among Muslims and non-muslims.

just like you differentiate between a Murderer and Innocent ..

 

[Pride]

just like you differentiate between a Murderer and Innocent ..

Either, you don't understand or you want to avoid the seriousness of the point. There are 2 kind of person from where threat comes, first is the known one say Religious heads like Mullah or Molvi. They are easy to find one and actions can be taken but then there are second one who are considered nice family persons, learned scholars and we get to know after sometime that they live with radical thoughts and did something which their family and acquaintance never imagined. Second kind of persons are becoming the main reason of mistrust.

 

[Selous]

You can't live in my house by your rules even if you are right. You follow my rules or get lost. In this case French govt and majority of French people have supported publishing of cartoon. You can either show your displeasure or go back to your country. You can't shoot people.

I know this sounds a bit conspiratorial but what if this whole cartoon business is a smokescreen and a much bigger agenda is being played out here...It seems too convenient somehow.

Yup, reflexive anti-Zionism is a Pakistani problem all right. Blinds out everything else, doesn't it?

I just can't take you seriously if you consider Israel to be an example of a tolerant society.

 

[Missile]

Ok they are bad. Then why do you guys live in their countries. Go back to your Islamic republic.

the people who were involved in this incident were French nationals and born nd breed there. immigrants has nothing to do with it. so you tell where should they go?. people who mocked PBUH were also French nationals. so frennch govt shoud know how to accommodate their muslims into their society. even uk and america does not allow hate speeches against other religions because they know they have muslim citizens and they need to create balance.

 

[rockstar08]

Either, you don't understand or you want to avoid the seriousness of the point. There are 2 kind of person from where threat comes, first is the known one say Religious heads like Mullah or Molvi. They are easy to find one and actions can be taken but then there are second one who are considered nice family persons, learned scholars and we get to know after sometime that they live with radical thoughts and did something which their family and acquaintance never imagined. Second kind of persons are becoming the main reason of mistrust.

i am not in mood to be in a debate .. just to make your head clean , a CIA operative killed 3 peoples in Pakistan , but we are not roaming shooting every American we found ... those who are jihadi lover are easily tracked and been taken down ... but the problem lies within the western mind set, they want good relationship with Muslim by making Pornographic cartoon of our Prophet , every human is different , some use violence , some dont ..

 

[AshishDelhi]

I know this sounds a bit conspiratorial but what if this whole cartoon business is a smokescreen and a much bigger agenda is being played out here...It seems too convenient somehow.

No I don't agree. I know majority Muslims are concerned about good life for their families and are family oriented but still there exists good number of extremists. World is not against Muslims. All this mess is partly Muslims fault and partly oil business and cold war effect but as a whole there is no conspiracy against Muslims.

 

[Solomon2]

I just can't take you seriously if you consider Israel to be an example of a tolerant society.

It is a problem that your government forbids its subjects from representing Israel accurately as a matter of ideology. I understand it's a problem but urge you to push the limits, ignore, or contest them. It's hard to fight extremism when one part of government insists upon such, isn't it?

 

[Selous]

No I don't agree. I know majority Muslims are concerned about good life for their families and are family oriented but still there exists good number of extremists. World is not against Muslims. All this mess is partly Muslims fault and partly oil business and cold war effect but as a whole there is no conspiracy against Muslims.

I am not denying that Muslims did this (but the fact that the shooter conveniently left his ID in the abandoned getaway vehicle seems a bit suspicious)...I am saying that why did this incident occur ? How did it occur ? (AKs, rockets and trained fighters ?!) and Who benefits the most from this ?
It is definitely not the Muslims who benefit, in fact it is the people who hate Muslims who benefit the most (right wingers etc).
The timing is also odd...seeing as the wave of Islamophobia that is sweeping Europe currently happens to coincide with this.

 

[Pride]

i am not in mood to be in a debate .. just to make your head clean , a CIA operative killed 3 peoples in Pakistan , but we are not roaming shooting every American we found ... those who are jihadi lover are easily tracked and been taken down ... but the problem lies within the western mind set, they want good relationship with Muslim by making Pornographic cartoon of our Prophet , every human is different , some use violence , some dont ..

2 different point, 2 different discussion.

 

[Selous]

It is a problem that your government forbids its subjects from representing Israel accurately as a matter of ideology. I understand it's a problem but urge you to push the limits, ignore, or contest them. It's hard to fight extremism when one part of government insists upon such, isn't it?

Hmmm I see...just one problem there...I am a South African, born and bred. But then we have this too:

Man MANDELA was a LEGEND!

 

[Dr Gupta]

How many times are we going to tell them nicely that we consider it very disrespectful if they make cartoons like that...they have seen the consequences of their actions. If they make these cartoons or something again and they get attacked for it, I will not condemn the the attackers again, nor will I apologize. Sometimes enough is enough.

Cartoons are being reprinted in Germany and what makes you think they just do it to Islam? they mocked Jesus, Buddha and Hindu deities also and now this incident will result in more mocking of Mohamed not less.

Charlie Hebdo attacks: Prophet Mohammed cartoons republished by Danish newspaper in wake of Paris incident - Europe - World - The Independent

 

[Solomon2]

Hmmm I see...just one problem there...I am a South African, born and bred. But then we have this too -

Mandela was a great man. He also made great compromises, as his supporters in America explained to me long ago. The PLO were his allies in his struggle against the South Africa apartheid regime and as such were entitled to payback. Obviously Israeli society is nothing like apartheid; Arab society is closer, it being shameful how the Jews of the Middle East have been hounded into a tiny area and Jews deemed fit only to be taxed excessively and serve Muslims' will at Muslims' pleasure, just as was done to South Africa's blacks by South Africa's whites. Thus they explained away the moral content you cite as stuff not to be taken seriously by intelligent people.

 

[Pak_Sher]

Are you blind? It was a pakistani who bombed the train. He is still in pakistan. Apparently good terrorist. But the question wasn't for you. Now stop whining like a 3 year old girl and let the person to whom it was posed answer.

What the hell are you talking about? It is the Indian Army RAW terrorists lead by Col. Prohit who did the bombing. Please know the facts before you babble more be.. Google the phrase "Indian terrorists Col. Prohit"