This to Generals for this !

[Mav3rick]

Political party did not create this hatred, the army did and like you said "undemocratic, authoritative and outside law and legal mandate" ( putting it very mildly) and you expect people to do what? Keep praising them for all of the above? Fact is, the politics has been turned into a disgusting pool of filth ( audio/video culture, kidnapping opponents and torturing them in the naked and blackmailing, murdering people) and yet, you blame PTI and/or people for all this? How would you feel if the police did to your house what was done to Imran's house? What part of law were they following?

Bajwa was father till he did not do any of the above but after he politically, financially and morally destroyed the country, things are the way they are. First impression is NOT the last impression. If the cipher was investigated on the first day, we would have know what actually happened but guess who didn't let that happen?!!

Surprised that you expect everyone to not feel anything about what has happened since April last year.

Generally, circumstances are the reason of change in mood and behaviour.

To answer your question about the Police doing at my house what they did at Imran Khan's house, I being a Karachiitte would either have been shot dead by some LEA or would have been booked and sentenced by the Court if I had done 10% of what Imran Khan has done. Matter of fact, even Altaf Hussain at the prime of his power would have been shot dead. But all that is most likely because of the domicile.

Coming back to rule of law, there is no point in arguing. Non bailable arrest warrants were issued for an absconder and any other accused would have been arrested but Imran Khan being Imran Khan, ensured that he had hundreds/thousands of his supporters taking law in their own hands, setting police vans on fire, throwing petrol bombs at police along with other dangerous projectiles etc. Was that all legal?

Ever stop to think what could possibly have turned Bajwa against Imran? I mean, after all Imran has himself admitted that he was merely a pawn and that Bajwa was calling the shots. So what happened really? Just think about it for a moment, I mean Imran Khan has also accepted that he was even willing to give Bajwa an indefinite extension.....so what really happened which was so severe that the establishment decided to sever ties with Imran Khan after putting all that massive effort of manpower and years of hard work to ensure Imran Khan comes to power; what could have happened which was so horrific for the country that the Military had to decide that Imran Khan was 'dangerous' for the country? Think about it for a moment.

 

[salarsikander]

So we will have to make do with the lot that we have and they all will always be amenable to the might of the Military, for self preservation and benefit above all else.

LLOLOL. what a cheap shit Example that has been used like a hooker a hundred thousand times.

no political party is clean that is true and that is what politics is all about, which is where process of the election, if you don't come clean then you are REPLACED WITH VOTES!
That's how your neighbor India did that's how the Khakis abbu Pentagon and Washington DOES !

When you meddle out of your turf this is the result you get.
Secondly, none of the martial laws were ever clean, the first September Martial law of Self-proclaimed Field Marshall, not a single person was charged of govt sector for corruption, all charges were dropped and they were allowed to work again, none of them were even hanged, in fact every time bull shit marial came it only further reinforced military illegal power to state and cemented it.
Thirdly,any person who breaks his own oath and words is not worthy of any honour,Kahkai chaddis do that at will, anyone breaking their oath is worse than heer mandi rundi

 

[Imran Khan]

ایک فوجی دوران جنگ اپنے عضو خاص سے محروم ہوگیا۔ گھر واپس آیا تو والدین نے شادی کی تاریخ پہلے ہی طے کر رکھی تھی۔ مارے شرم و حیا کے اپنے پر بیتی بتا نہ سکا اور شادی ہوگئی۔ سہاگ رات کو نئی نویلی دلہن کو اپنا احوال بتایا اور مشورہ دیا کہ کیونکہ میں مباشرت کی صلاحیت سے محروم ہوں




لہذا اگر تم کسی اپنے سابقہ محبوب کے ساتھ تعلقات استوار کرنا چاہتی ہو تو مجھے کوئی اعتراض نہیں ہے۔ دلہن کے آنسو خوشی کی مسکراہٹ میں بدل گئے۔اس نے اپنے محبوب ،جس سے اس کے والدین نے شادی نہیں کی تھی ،بلوایا اور اگلی رات اس سے اپنے فوجی شوہر کی موجودگی میں لذت و سرور حاصل کیا۔

دلہن کے ساتھ ساتھ اس کا فوجی شوہر بھی نوجوان کی پرفارمنس سے خوش ہوا اور نوجوان کو مستقل اپنے گھر میں قیام پر راضی کرلیا۔ پانچ چھ سال بعد ، دلہن اپنے دو بچوں ، ان بچوں کے باپ اور اپنے شوہر نامدار کے ساتھ پارک میں گئی تو وہاں فوجی صاحب کی اپنے فوجی دوستوں سے ملاقات ہوگی،

جو جنگ کے ایام میں اس کے ساتھ تھے۔ فوجی نے تعارف کرواتے ہوئے کہا کہ یہ میری بیوی ہے۔ یہ میری بیٹی ہے یہ میرا بیٹا ہے۔ دوستوں نے نوجوان کی طرف اشارہ کر کے پوچھا کہ یہ صاحب کون ہیں ؟ تو فوجی نے ایک گہری مسکراہٹ سے کہا کہ " یہ میرا لن ہے۔"


آج کل فوج کے عضو خاص نون لیگ ، پیپلز پارٹی اور مولانا فضل الرحمن ہیں۔ جو کام فوجی نہیں کر سکتے آج کل وہ یہ کر رہے ہیں۔

https://twitter.com/asifrasheedKha4

 

[Mav3rick]

LLOLOL. what a cheap shit Example that has been used like a hooker a hundred thousand times.

no political party is clean that is true and that is what politics is all about, which is where process of the election, if you don't come clean then you are REPLACED WITH VOTES!
That's how your neighbor India did that's how the Khakis abbu Pentagon and Washington DOES !

When you meddle out of your turf this is the result you get.
Secondly, none of the martial laws were ever clean, the first September Martial law of Self-proclaimed Field Marshall, not a single person was charged of govt sector for corruption, all charges were dropped and they were allowed to work again, none of them were even hanged, in fact every time bull shit marial came it only further reinforced military illegal power to state and cemented it.
Thirdly,any person who breaks his own oath and words is not worthy of any honour,Kahkai chaddis do that at will, anyone breaking their oath is worse than heer mandi rundi

Unfortunately, you were unable to comprehend that I presented facts and not examples when I explained the nature of our existing crop of Politicians. And perhaps if one thinks like a man in uniform, his oath is for the country, the country is not for the oath and hence when his country is vulnerable to his oath, he will break it to save the country.

Moreover, be it India or the US, there is corruption everywhere. The only difference between us and them is the fact that there all institutions remain within their constitutional limits. But it's not like they don't have corrupt politicians.

 

[mangochutney]

British Pakistani kids in U.K. have a new riddle

“ Slapped with a slipper for a slapper “

Slapper meaning a whore aka maryam thief .

couldn’t stop laughing on hearing it from schoolchildren

 

[AlKardai]

my advice is for no young person to join the military.

Break the chain until they’re forced to stop their political engineering. At the minimum, this strategy will decrease the amount of manpower to the point where the civilian government is able to have power over the military, as it should be.

True revolution will not come until there is mutiny within the ranks of this corrupt hegemonic institution called the Pak army

 

[Mentee]

"Pak foj zindabad"

If you listen carefully one can easily hear Imran Khan zin------.

 

[salarsikander]

he will break it to save the country.

Only that your chokidars actually benefit from such chaos and not actually do anything to prevent the further deterioration

which he did very elegantly in 1971 , with 0 repercussions to the drunk bastard known as Yahya

he only difference between us and them is the fact that there all institutions remain within their constitutional limits. But it's not like they don't have corrupt politicians.

that's exactly what i said and negated your argument of a corrupt politicians., we have seen how military dictators gave NRO to the same corrupt politicians, how the same military dictators have brought back and send official jets to bring back convicted chors to run the finance ministrty of the country

 

[IceCold]

As Moeed said in his vlog yesterday. The army establishment has been hijacked by corrupt, criminal generals.

When was it not hijacked. From Ayub to Musharraf all overtly ruled Pakistan where after Musharraf Kiyani and follow on ruled Pakistan covertly.

 

[truthseeker2010]

MQM was a pawn. most other parties and most electable are pawns, Imran Khan himself admitted he was a pawn and that the instructions were being received from somewhere else. Basically, Imran Khan was all fine and dandy being a pawn as long as he was the PM and only just realized that he was being used after he was removed from the PM office.

And yes, it is not the domain of the Army to meddle in politics. But to ensure that we need clean politicians, which we do not have. So we will have to make do with the lot that we have and they all will always be amenable to the might of the Military, for self preservation and benefit above all else.

The might of the military in politics has gone down the drain thanks to 1 man. That 1 man sold a narrative and people bought it. The rest which includes everything used up everything and failed spectacularly.

 

[AlKardai]

The might of the military in politics has gone down the drain thanks to 1 man. That 1 man sold a narrative and people bought it. The rest which includes everything used up everything and failed spectacularly.

Shut up, gangu.

It’s up to the people of the country to decide what is good for them, and they chose Imran Khan

 

[truthseeker2010]

Shut up, gangu.

It’s up to the people of the country to decide what is good for them, and they chose Imran Khan

Please read what I wrote and try to use ur mind and understand.

 

[firohot4321]

soliders are getting abused because of arrogant selfish, greedy, egoistic establishment…

might cause mutiny in the army and killing of jarnails

Not likely

They are cogs of the system


Won't risk their secure future for people

 

[One_Nation]

Political party did not create this hatred, the army did and like you said "undemocratic, authoritative and outside law and legal mandate" ( putting it very mildly) and you expect people to do what? Keep praising them for all of the above? Fact is, the politics has been turned into a disgusting pool of filth ( audio/video culture, kidnapping opponents and torturing them in the naked and blackmailing, murdering people) and yet, you blame PTI and/or people for all this? How would you feel if the police did to your house what was done to Imran's house? What part of law were they following?

Bajwa was father till he did not do any of the above but after he politically, financially and morally destroyed the country, things are the way they are. First impression is NOT the last impression. If the cipher was investigated on the first day, we would have know what actually happened but guess who didn't let that happen?!!

Surprised that you expect everyone to not feel anything about what has happened since April last year.

Generally, circumstances are the reason of change in mood and behaviour.

Exactly, if calling out thievery of army creates hatred then its the thief army that is responsible for this hatred and not the one calling them a thief. This political military elite has relied on peoples stupidity for far too long.

 

[Mav3rick]

LLOLOL. what a cheap shit Example that has been used like a hooker a hundred thousand times.

no political party is clean that is true and that is what politics is all about, which is where process of the election, if you don't come clean then you are REPLACED WITH VOTES!
That's how your neighbor India did that's how the Khakis abbu Pentagon and Washington DOES !

When you meddle out of your turf this is the result you get.
Secondly, none of the martial laws were ever clean, the first September Martial law of Self-proclaimed Field Marshall, not a single person was charged of govt sector for corruption, all charges were dropped and they were allowed to work again, none of them were even hanged, in fact every time bull shit marial came it only further reinforced military illegal power to state and cemented it.
Thirdly,any person who breaks his own oath and words is not worthy of any honour,Kahkai chaddis do that at will, anyone breaking their oath is worse than heer mandi rundi

Unfortunately, you were unable to comprehend that I presented facts and not examples when I explained the nature of the existing crop of Politicians. And perhaps if one thinks like a man in uniform, his oath is for the country, the country is not for the oath and hence when his country is vulnerable to an oath, he will break it to save the country.

Moreover, be it India or the US, there is corruption everywhere. The only difference between us and them is the fact that there all institutions remain within their constitutional limits. But it's not like they don't have corrupt politicians.

The might of the military in politics has gone down the drain thanks to 1 man. That 1 man sold a narrative and people bought it. The rest which includes everything used up everything and failed spectacularly.

Well, we are still not at the end of the run yet. Things have yet to unfold, next year by this time we might have witnessed a few surprises or shocks depending on the side of politics one is.