These French-Made Pakistani Missiles Could Sink an Aircraft Carrier

[Tumba]

And if we fire before that 150 km bubble range sorry to burst your bubbles kid

And Indian Navy has cruise missile ranging to 600 kms... also Barak-8 is the only known system which
Has taken down Brahmos like missile so any Pakistani cruise missiles will be easier than Brahmos
To drop.

Cruise/anti-ship missiles)

• Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile
• 3M-54E/3M-14E Klub Anti-Ship/Land Attack Cruise Missile (SS-N-27 Sizzler)
• Kh-35 (SS-N-25 SwitchBlade)
• P-20 (SS-N-2D Styx)
• Sea Eagle missile
• Harpoon (missile)
• Exocet missile (these missiles are used by Kalvari class)

This shows how stupid you're we also have coastal radar and AWACS ( ZDK-3) coverage for detecting/tracking your mig29k so what???

so do u think ur Awacs will come near to Barak8 range and even if it detects one which spare fighters will PAF send in Sea against dozens and dozens of Barak8 armed ships and Mig-29K flying with R-77-1 and R-27 ET missiles with range from 110-140kms

 

[Ultima Thule]

And Indian Navy has cruise missile ranging to 600 kms... also Barak-8 is the only known system which
Has taken down Brahmos like missile so any Pakistani cruise missiles will be easier than Brahmos
To drop.

Cruise/anti-ship missiles)

• Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile
• 3M-54E/3M-14E Klub Anti-Ship/Land Attack Cruise Missile (SS-N-27 Sizzler)
• Kh-35 (SS-N-25 SwitchBlade)
• P-20 (SS-N-2D Styx)
• Sea Eagle missile
• Harpoon (missile)
• Exocet missile (these missiles are used by Kalvari class)

And your brahmouse is supersonic missile hence it has big RCS and IR signature can easily countered by FM-90 on our F-22P as well as FL-3000 on up coming Type-54AP
And rest of your all anti ship missiles are subsonic

so do u think ur Awacs will come near to Barak8 range and even if it detects one which spare fighters will PAF send in Sea against dozens and dozens of Barak8 armed ships and Mig-29K flying with R-77-1 and R-27 ET missiles with range from 110-140kms

Now this shows more stupidity by you i am saying that you're free to attack any where you want on Pakistani coast and we have no defense against you and where R-77-1 have a range of 140 km and as for R-27 T BVR never fired at extreme range but in NEZ to increase the chance to hit which nullified its 140 km range advantage
And as for your information our SD-10A has also 110 km range

 

[War Historian]

Small people with big dreams
But then you will wake up with a Su-30 crashed near you house in a struggle to dodge the AMRAAM.

whatever be the missiles ... there is no way PN will have radar locks on an AC as no ships or air platforms will be able to come near the CBG... land based or ship based unless exact location of a moving target in sea is not known nothing can target the same...

The outer circle of carrier will be protected by multiple kolkata destroyers and stealth frigates of IN...
A pak submarine has only one way to use torpedoes... no land based or ship based anti ship missiles be ever to lock and disable an AC..

Once in war Mig-29K and Jaguars/Su-30s will be establishing total air superiority over contested area on arabian sea and Indian Navy destroyers/frigates and corvettes including P-8Is cleaning up PN in their own bases..

Indian Navy has no challenge in PN.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Yes, but can the Indian carrier dodge amraams?

 

[notorious_eagle]

Yeah and PN will be sleeping while Indian Navy moves those AC out of bay.Tell me friend, why do Indians always start with the ideal conditions?Do you think PN and PAF have not taken all Indian future plans into account??
Please, be reasonable while analysing such serious matters.

The AC will stay in the bay like it has always been. Keep in mind the AC that India operates is not similar to those operated by the USN.

INS Vikramaditya has had many issues with its maintenance and that is why it has spent most of its life in the Bay getting fixed. The AC has short legs and cannot fully operate out in the open sea not only due to the threats faced by PAF's fast movers but also due to maintenance issues. Second, the MIG29's simply don't have the legs to be considered a threat for PAF and PN. They cannot be launched from catapults, which means they can't take off with a full load of weapons and fuel. Third, it does not has the protection that a typical USN CBG has which makes it extremely vulnerable to multiple ASM's that PAF can fire at this AC from multiple angles.

To conclude, this AC would be a major threat for Maldives or Myanmar but does not really pose a threat to Pakistan.

 

[Tumba]

And your brahmouse is supersonic missile hence it has big RCS and IR signature can easily countered by FM-90 on our F-22P as well as FL-3000 on up coming Type-54AP
And rest of your all anti ship missiles are subsonic

Now this shows more stupidity by you i am saying that you're free to attack any where you want on Pakistani coast and we have no defense against you and where R-77-1 have a range of 140 km and as for R-27 T BVR never fired at extreme range but in NEZ to increase the chance to hit which nullified its 140 km range advantage
And as for your information our SD-10A has also 110 km range

lol see i will let u know one basic thing Radars use Radar signatures not IR signatures to track...
Also Brahmos RCS is pretty minute against say ur JF-17 not even 1/10.. also in low mode Brahmos touches around 5 meters in sea attack and can touch upto 30 meter in flat terrain Ground attack.

Pakistan has no defense absolutely no defense against a Brahmos even if fired in Top Top Lo mode.
Even if with a shear luck a Awacs tracks a brahmos thr is no SAM batteries which can do that or any AAM or SAM that can drop Brahmos.

Once Brahmos is fired it will hit targets inside pakistan in minutes with CEP of almost zero.

R-77-1 has range of around 110km
R-27 which recently India bought has range upto 140kms with both Radar and IR homing

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

Mig-29K has a range of over 1500kms and has buddy to buddy refuelling also with drop tanks the range can be extended much more... India will be deploying 2 AC in couple of years thats beyond the capabilities of PN the number of fighters stationed on these two AC will always be near to Indian landmass and can shuffle making the endurance and range unprecedentedly large...

50 odd 4.5+ generation fighters are a significant threat, how many PAf fighters can Be routed in Arabian sea where multiple IN ships are deployed with Barak-8ER sam batteries .....???

Ok let me burst your fantasy bubble Pakistan is getting 8 new subs in addition to agusta upgrade 4 054A with (YJ 12) 4 MILGEM they will have our own weapons on them with longer ranges than brahmous 400 to 500 km what makes you think that your navy will crush us lol? We are also developing a supersonic cruise missiles for navy similar to brahmous now the playing field is getting even. And the mig 29s will not go more than 300 km away from carrier or they are vulnerable to PL 15 equipped thunders and Pakistani ships. Also Indians will find China in Gawadar if they ever venture here and not to mention there is a possibility that we might get 2 052D class destroyers so and also dont act like Indian fleet will not be seen headed towards Pakistan.

lol see i will let u know one basic thing Radars use Radar signatures not IR signatures to track...
Also Brahmos RCS is pretty minute against say ur JF-17 not even 1/10.. also in low mode Brahmos touches around 5 meters in sea attack and can touch upto 30 meter in flat terrain Ground attack.

Pakistan has no defense absolutely no defense against a Brahmos even if fired in Top Top Lo mode.
Even if with a shear luck a Awacs tracks a brahmos thr is no SAM batteries which can do that or any AAM or SAM that can drop Brahmos.

Once Brahmos is fired it will hit targets inside pakistan in minutes with CEP of almost zero.

R-77-1 has range of around 110km
R-27 which recently India bought has range upto 140kms with both Radar and IR homing

Thunder will have PL 15
Frigates will have 70 km Sam systems
Coastal batteries will sink your fleet since they are sub sonic low flying low RCS.
Also our fast attack crafts can do hit and runs.
And our subs will take out supply shps since you don't have a very large fleet to spend on escorting.
And your carrier will soon be a coral reef

 

[Tumba]

Ok let me burst your fantasy bubble Pakistan is getting 8 new subs in addition to agusta upgrade 4 054A with (YJ 12) 4 MILGEM they will have our own weapons on them with longer ranges than brahmous 400 to 500 km what makes you think that your navy will crush us lol? We are also developing a supersonic cruise missiles for navy similar to brahmous now the playing field is getting even. And the mig 29s will not go more than 300 km away from carrier or they are vulnerable to PL 15 equipped thunders and Pakistani ships. Also Indians will find China in Gawadar if they ever venture here and not to mention there is a possibility that we might get 2 052D class destroyers so and also dont act like Indian fleet will not be seen headed towards Pakistan.

dont ever think chinese navy will come to rescue you in time of war.
Chinese will not risk war for Pakistan. Even if thr is war between India and China ... PLAN will be stuck at the mouth of Indian ocean due to strategic location of Andman and Nicobar island chains.

Now regarding New subs and few frigates PN will buy, does not impact the balance which Indian Navy and PN has...
Indian P-8I itself will be 20 in couple of years.
India will add 3 carriers with 57 Rafales or SH-18 BLK 3...

6 New generation Submarines with 6 SSN and 6 SSBM to be added in Indian Navy thats just too much for a small navy like PN to handle...

Against IN .. PN has same power projection as a beefed up coast guard.

 

[CrazyZ]

dont ever think chinese navy will come to rescue you in time of war.
Chinese will not risk war for Pakistan. Even if thr is war between India and China ... PLAN will be stuck at the mouth of Indian ocean due to strategic location of Andman and Nicobar island chains.

Now regarding New subs and few frigates PN will buy, does not impact the balance which Indian Navy and PN has...
Indian P-8I itself will be 20 in couple of years.
India will add 3 carriers with 57 Rafales or SH-18 BLK 3...

6 New generation Submarines with 6 SSN and 6 SSBM to be added in Indian Navy thats just too much for a small navy like PN to handle...

Against IN .. PN has same power projection as a beefed up coast guard.

Most western experts a few years ago also thought that JF-17 and a few F-16's would not change the balance between the IAF and PAF. They now think differently today.

Surface ships and P-8's are vulnerable to attack from numerous platforms. IN is larger but has more surface area to protect. PN doesn't have to project power far from our shores to have a big impact.

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

dont ever think chinese navy will come to rescue you in time of war.
Chinese will not risk war for Pakistan. Even if thr is war between India and China ... PLAN will be stuck at the mouth of Indian ocean due to strategic location of Andman and Nicobar island chains.

Now regarding New subs and few frigates PN will buy, does not impact the balance which Indian Navy and PN has...
Indian P-8I itself will be 20 in couple of years.
India will add 3 carriers with 57 Rafales or SH-18 BLK 3...

6 New generation Submarines with 6 SSN and 6 SSBM to be added in Indian Navy thats just too much for a small navy like PN to handle...

Against IN .. PN has same power projection as a beefed up coast guard.

Yea nice joke dude what makes you think ALL OF THE INDIAN NAVY will be deployed to Pakistan and nothing will be left for defence PN is becoming a good fighting force with new purchases it does not need to fight your ships one on one but it needs to deny IN our EEZ and that it can easily do thanks to long range low profile missiles. Also after induction of supersonic cruise missiles your navy will think 10 times before heading to Pakistan.

 

[Tumba]

Most western experts a few years ago also thought that JF-17 and a few F-16's would not change the balance between the IAF and PAF. They now think differently today.

Surface ships and P-8's are vulnerable to attack from numerous platforms. IN is larger but has more surface area to protect. PN doesn't have to project power far from our shores to have a big impact.

so do u think JF-17 and F-16 give any edge over Indian Su30 , Mig29, Mirage2K and upcoming Rafale.
Do u think Paf will be able to target some town north east of Delhi without harm like IaF struck North west pakistan near to Pak capital without harm?

And as usual pDf posters will repeat 27 feb.

What did Paf achieve..

No Indian Military Installation was hit even 10 kms from LOC
No incursion from PAF like the dozen Mirage 2000 did just few hours back
Mig-21 vs F-16. Yes Mig-21 was sure kill when u r outnumbered by multiple next gen fighters that inside Pakistani territory.

Indian AWacs got radar logs to show R-73 achieved F-16 kill
And yes no Su-30 Mki was harmed, infact Paf was so wary of these fighters that to keep just 2 away from action fired 5 Aim-120C5 from Dmax range.

No Paf and Iaf are not near peers, shoot and scoot doesnt give enough data to show who has more edge.

A full scale war will turn Paf to hide its fighters from Iaf onslaught ... Paf is defensive force. , the strike angle of Paf does not have any capabilities to take a toll on India not only due to strategic deapth of India but also India has better SAMs and better Air Dominance fighters, Pakistan on other hand no strategic depth.

Yea nice joke dude what makes you think ALL OF THE INDIAN NAVY will be deployed to Pakistan and nothing will be left for defence PN is becoming a good fighting force with new purchases it does not need to fight your ships one on one but it needs to deny IN our EEZ and that it can easily do thanks to long range low profile missiles. Also after induction of supersonic cruise missiles your navy will think 10 times before heading to Pakistan.

Indian Navy can block all sea supplies to Pakistan effectively blocking Pakistan sea access, Thats all IN needs, any visible PN assets will be taken out one by one so does any coastal defences.
PN surely could add few chinese or turkish assets on soft loans but real naval assets are closer to one 300-1 usd billion each whiCh pakistan can never afford in good enough numbers.

 

[Ultima Thule]

lol see i will let u know one basic thing Radars use Radar signatures not IR signatures to track...
Also Brahmos RCS is pretty minute against say ur JF-17 not even 1/10.. also in low mode Brahmos touches around 5 meters in sea attack and can touch upto 30 meter in flat terrain Ground attack.

Pakistan has no defense absolutely no defense against a Brahmos even if fired in Top Top Lo mode.
Even if with a shear luck a Awacs tracks a brahmos thr is no SAM batteries which can do that or any AAM or SAM that can drop Brahmos.

Once Brahmos is fired it will hit targets inside pakistan in minutes with CEP of almost zero.

R-77-1 has range of around 110km
R-27 which recently India bought has range upto 140kms with both Radar and IR homing

Wow what a technical knowledge you have about your brahmouse, no missiles have a zero CEP YOU HAVE TECHNICALLY SUPERIOR THAN USA AND RUSSIA
Only India can defy a physic when making anti ship missiles and other weapons due to supersonic speeds at low levels its light up like fire BECAUSE OF DENSE ATMOSPHERE you indiot, AND ITS LATERAL RCS IS QUITE BIG
USN HAVE RAM ( ROLLING AIRFRAME MISSILES) AND EVOLVED SEA SPARROW MISSILES TO INTERCEPT BRAHMOUSE LIKE TARGET AND ALSO UK DEVELOPING CAMM TO DEFEAT MACH-3 ANTI SHIP MISSILES BASED ON ASRAAM
FL-3000 AND ALSO THIS CAPABILITIES TO INTERCEPT MACH-3 ANTI SHIP MISSILES
AND LATEST US LONG RANGE ANTI SHIP MISSILES LSRAM HAS A CEP OF 10 METER DO YOU HAVE BETTER MILITARY TECHNOLOGY THAN USA
WHY YOU'RE SO STUPID

 

[CrazyZ]

Indian Navy can block all sea supplies to Pakistan effectively blocking Pakistan sea access, Thats all IN needs, any visible PN assets will be taken out one by one so does any coastal defences.
PN surely could add few chinese or turkish assets on soft loans but real naval assets are closer to one 300-1 usd billion each whiCh pakistan can never afford in good enough numbers.

Many of the same applies to India. Even with no surface assets. Long range under water and land based Pakistani assets are are a huge threat to IN and Indian supply lines. Indian losses would also be 300 -1. Naval warfare has changed from the days of Nelson.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Indian Navy can block all sea supplies to Pakistan effectively blocking Pakistan sea access, Thats all IN needs, any visible PN assets will be taken out one by one so does any coastal defences.
PN surely could add few chinese or turkish assets on soft loans but real naval assets are closer to one 300-1 usd billion each whiCh pakistan can never afford in good enough numbers.

FEW LONG RANGE ANTI SHIP CAN GIVE YOU A HORROR FOR YOUR INVINCIBLE IN IN ARABIAN SEA YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT TACTICS STRATEGY ABOUT DEALING BIGGER ENEMY YOU'RE ONLY COMES HERE TO TROLL AND RANTS YOU DON'T HAVE A ABILITY TO DISCUSS ON TECHNICALITIES

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pak has only AM 39 variants of Exocet, which have only 70km range.
Do you really think Indian assets will venture in the range of that missile?
Its the Pak assets that will need to get within range.
Meanwhile, primary offensive weapon on Indian ships is Brahmos with min 290km range, probably now increased to 400km. So if pak tries to launch Exocet via ships, do you realise that Pak ships will have to cover a distance of 220km-330km while evading Indian attacks to be able to launch that exocet? And that from the outside perimeter of the carrier strike group, there are going to be multiple ships with similar weapons at various distance with overlapping strike range.
The story is similar if Pak launched Exocet from air.
Even a submarine launch will be risky.
Forget exocet, you are better off with your own babur.

WHERE is the link to the sources you are getting these figures from? If what you say is true then remember to post the links here.