There is no God , There is no Fate - Steven Hawking

[TMA]

I have read the Bible numerous times, I want to try and read the Quran next. I have also studied Buddhism and Taoism to some degree.

After reading the Bible I found it incredibly fascinating and interesting, but does that make it more true than any other Holy Book out there, of which every religion has one?

There are thousands of religions and Gods out there, which one is correct, and why?

Also, if you check the other posts on this thread, one of your fellow Muslims taught me a prayer to seek guidance and I have tried it several times so far. It does make me feel good and relaxed, in a similar way to meditation does, but thus far I have not received any response (that I could recognize at least).

I am looking for answers, I am an Agnostic which means I am undecided, and waiting for more evidence. Currently Science is giving me answers which are testable and observable (such as the effects of gravity or electricity). But there are deeper questions which lie outside the realm of Science (modern Science breaks down at the point of any singularity including the Big Bang), and I am equally interested in those answers, if there are any to be found.

As far as I am aware it is only Christianity or Islam which claim they have absolute Truth. Judaism claims this but really reserves itself for the Children of Israel (PBUH). The Dharmic religions do not make such a claim. I do not know about the Truth Claim of Taoism. As your time is finite on earth, focus on studying Islam and Christianity....

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

As far as I am aware it is only Christianity or Islam which claim they have absolute Truth. Judaism claims this but really reserves itself for the Children of Israel (PBUH). The Dharmic religions do not make such a claim. I do not know about the Truth Claim of Taoism. As your time is finite on earth, focus on studying Islam and Christianity....

Do any of the above religions have any basis for claiming they are the "absolute truth"?

Like I said, I've read the Bible which includes the Old Testament from Judaism, and I've studied the principles of Buddhism and Taoism. I have yet to read the Quran but that is next on my to-do-list.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

If I were religious I be Buddhist. Buddhism is peaceful and does not allow killing animals for food. While monotheism isn't exactly my thing, you have to give it to the fact that Lucifer is bad ***. Lucifer if I'm not mistaken is the second son of the Abrahamic God.

 

[gambit]

There is primary information and most of astrology is secondary information to us minions. That's the case with astrology.

Astrology is not science.

Has anyone discovered how the thousands of blocks of granite, around the world, were cut to precision by the ancients? Black holes and whatnot theories but can't figure out what's right in front that can be touched as well.

Anyways, the challenge is there for you and will be there till you death. Let's see if you have the ability to take it on, no scientist has either.

You cannot pick out a few things and make as if scientists are incompetent in their fields as religionists are incompetent in theirs. But then again, you have demonstrated you have no idea how Science works to start.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Science is about HOW the universe works.

Not really. The main focus of science these days is the search for immortality. After DNA was discovered in the 1950s, now there is the quest to find genetic ways to stop aging. You have no idea how many people are working on that right now. It's a crazy world out there. The first person who finds it goes in the history books forever.

Anyway, science makes war machines. War machines wins wars. Wins wars rules the world. Rules the world means happy life. The purpose of science is happy life. The purpose of religion is worship. Look at Su-57, F-22, J-20. Religion don't make these machines. Science makes these machines. Look at the west. The west rules the world because of machines made by science, including the computer you are using right now. The west rules the world after it focused on science and turned its back on religion. That's how powerful science is compared to religion.

 

[jamahir]

The world calls him a genius, I think he was very stupid (learned but Stupid) After all the knowledge he had about the universe and the fact that despite all his genius and the intelligent brain he couldn't do any thing by himself, did that reality not hammer home the fact that nothing happens by itself and that there definitely is a creator.

I think his own disability also led him to the conclusion that there is no God. After all, how can a God exist but be so cruel to his subject ?? Bad people lived on comfortably but a good man like Hawking was subjected to that disability.

When we die, what happened to our consciousness ? That part/thing that makes us ( us ) is it just gone into non existent ? or it remain in some form of energy in the cosmos ? Is soul a real Thing ? If yes than Is it connected to some higher form of Power ? and if No, than without a Soul body functions and when it stops it die so isn't it possible to say that if we can somehow keep our Decaying body to keep working even after 80-100 years , by replacing or using surgical procedures to heal our organs means we can have a Eternal life ? ? but every living thing that born's will eventually Die..

I think it is the brain that contains the consciousness, and so it might be possible to have artificial wombs that create new bodies or clones, and the brains transferred to those bodies.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The purpose of religion is worship and obedience. The purpose of religion is happiness in afterlife.

The purpose of science is make military hardware, win war, rule world, cure cancer, find genetic way to immortality. The purpose of science is happiness in life on Earth.

Religion and science are fundamentally incompatible. One is spiritual. The other is practical. People who are religious don't like science. People who are scientific don't like religion.

I think his own disability also led him to the conclusion that there is no God. After all, how can a God exist but be so cruel to his subject ?? Bad people lived on comfortably but a good man like Hawking was subjected to that disability.

I think in your religion there are many gods, correct?

 

[jamahir]

I think in your religion there are many gods, correct?

I am an Indian Muslim, so one god.

And increasingly I find myself being an agnostic.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I am an Indian Muslim, so one god.

And increasingly I find myself being an agnostic.

In monotheist religions there are many deities. Jesus, Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, Rafael and so on. All these are deities.

 

[HannibalBarca]

In monotheist religions there are many deities. Jesus, Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, Rafael and so on. All these are deities.

Sometimes I ask myself...Where did you go to school... Or what sort of "Environment" you grew up... To behave as you do... In every thread of yours...I ask myself what sort of "Logic" you use to come up with such "Theories" and Still believing in it as if you saw the Prophetic light...

Just tell me at least you believe the Earth isn't flat?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Just tell me at least you believe the Earth isn't flat?

Why you care about my family? You want to come murder my family for your god so your god reward you by taking you to heaven because I don't believe your god?

Look at satellite pics. Is Earth flat? Nop. This no one can refute.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Why you care about my family. You want to come murder my family for your god so your god reward you by taking to heaven because I don't believe your god?

Look at satellite pics. Is Earth flat? Nop. This no one can refute.

May I ask you to write a small "Analysis" in which way you came up with this statement:

Why you care about my family. You want to come murder my family for your god so your god reward you by taking to heaven because I don't believe your god?

After reading my post?

Please I really wish to "understand" your thinking process that end up giving such "Answer".
(Genuinely, I really mean it)

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Abrahamic religions didn't come from thin air. Abrahamic religions evolved from multi deities religions. As such, they retain multi deities. There are many deities in Abrahamic religions. Jesus, Rafael, Gabriel, Michael, Lucifer and so on. All these angels are deities in Abrahamic religions. Lucifer is bad ***.

 

[YeBeWarned]

@undertakerwwefan one more off topic post and these stupid Videos, and I will report you to Moderators ..
@waz please check this guy out , trying to ruin this thread .

 

[Verve]

You cannot pick out a few things and make as if scientists are incompetent in their fields as religionists are incompetent in theirs. But then again, you have demonstrated you have no idea how Science works to start.

Space science then.

What has it given mankind? Where are the benefits to our lives?