The woes of Bengalis and Burmese of Karachi

[Banglar Bir]

Did you ever get treated badly by a BD person?
Your obsession with BD is unhealthy.

We should accept the actual ground reality and boldly face the situation, to restore our Pride and National prestige.

 

[Species]

Did you ever get treated badly by a BD person?
Your obsession with BD is unhealthy.

Madrasi frustration. You would have done the same if you were victims of blatant racism in your own country like the Tamils. They are too effeminate and timid bunch to wage a war and have their own independent nation-state. We should be sympathetic.

 

[gslv mk3]

Madrasi frustration. You would have done the same if you were victims of blatant racism in your own country like the Tamils. They are too effeminate and timid bunch to wage a war and have their own independent nation-state. We should be sympathetic.

LMAO, says effeminate Bongoloids who got slaughtered in thousands by their own compatriots...and came running to India begging for help !!!

As for Tamils (or South Indians for that matter), they have been more successful & respected than the citizens of an LDC swamp who are only good at working in sweatshops and filing 2 patents a year at USPTO

 

[Bilal9]

Bilal, you may have gotten the wrong impression so let me clarify.

The point I'm trying to get across is that there is no good reason to compare Pakistan with Bangladesh in terms of demographics, or population, purely because we have similar nominal per capita GDP. Why? Because, Pakistan has more area and resources to support a larger population. We are not Saudi Arabia where over 90% of the land is desert.

To make this point more pronounce, can we compare Qatar (per capita GDP of $68,940 USD) with United States (per capita GDP of $57,467) because the two have similar nominal per capita GDP? I'm arguing that it doesn't make any sense just look at the area:

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The area highlighted in orange is United States and the area highlighted in green, with the help of a circle because its essentially a dot on the map, is Qatar. Do you see the gist of my argument now?

Previously, I gave you the example of Myanmar and Ghana. Myanmar is right next to you and has a similar nominal per capita GDP, just like Ghana, however the difference in terms of area or sheer population is huge just as it is the case with Ghana. I hope this clarifies my response and you do not feel you are being targeted because that is not my intention.

Now lets address your point in terms of your argument on Pakistan's population independently. Some of the material you posted talks about sprawl which is the result of uncoordinated growth. In American and European cities, sprawl can result in enclaves or sub-urban areas that overstretch city services and lacks density. For example, how can a city provide daily bus service in a sustainable manner in an area that has only 200 residents? Given the meager tax collection, it can't be done. This often leads to cities becoming financial burdens or going bankrupt in some extreme cases. So why do I mention this? Because this is not the case in say Mumbai, Karachi or Dhaka. These South Asian cities are very densely populated. As long as we follow good urban planning practices, sprawl is less of an issue for us and we can provide essential services in a sustainable manner.

Some here may wonder what will happen to older dwellings in the city core which were built prior to the introduction of modern urban planning principles? Well, you can certainly manage them or modernise them but it is far cheaper to allow them to decay and fall into disrepair at which point you can revitalise them by bringing in businesses or housing developers who lap up the land because its prime real estate. That's what Donald Trump did in the 80s and 90s in New York. The people who live in those old areas can move on to better planned dwellings but one day these dwellings will face the same dilemma, i.e., the world has discovered better urban planning methods and old areas are getting tough love from city planners. The same patterns will repeat and the cycle continues. That's how New York, Beijing, Shanghai, Singapore, Hong Kong etc. were transformed. I'm sure you can see hints of that in Dhaka as well. I certainly see hints of it in Karachi:

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On a personal note, you are a good poster. I like your posts but take everything I say with a healthy dose of sarcasm. I mean well and I certainly don't want to give you the impression that we are somehow inhospitable people. I welcome you and all the Bangladeshi posters. Given the history of our two countries, we really should make more of an effort but my sarcasm tends to get the best of me. If you felt that I unfairly targeted you, I will gladly apologise but that was never my intention.

Your points well taken and no apology needed brother.

Appreciate your thoughts.

Sometimes a healthy dose of sarcasm can be a great thing.

 

[Mage]

Forget about the law when they themselves entered illegally.

The callous attitude of the Bongladeshi government is dangerous towards its own people.

No wonder Bongladeshis end up in Pacific ocean wandering in dingy boats.

Look, they aren't Bangladeshi unless you can prove that they are. So I don't think Bangladeshi govt has any obligation here.

 

[El Sidd]

Look, they aren't Bangladeshi unless you can prove that they are. So I don't think Bangladeshi govt has any obligation here.

Ok
Seems legit

 

[UKBengali]

Madrasi frustration. You would have done the same if you were victims of blatant racism in your own country like the Tamils. They are too effeminate and timid bunch to wage a war and have their own independent nation-state. We should be sympathetic.

Why these people stay in a country where they are discriminated based on the colour of skin is beyond me.
They also subsidise the ones that are racist towards them.

 

[gslv mk3]

Why these people stay in a country where they are discriminated based on the colour of skin is beyond me.
They also subsidise the ones that are racist towards them.

You're really really funny...

 

[Nilgiri]

Did you ever get treated badly by a BD person?
Your obsession with BD is unhealthy.

Nah I just like to make you lot squirm and cry over here....so people passing by get a reality check on what BD is quickly and succinctly and dont waste anymore time.

 

[Banglar Bir]

To improve our overall Bi-lateral relations,restore our National pride and honor, both the Government requires positive and friendly attitude,only then, they could form a joint investigation team comprising of the UN, UNHCR,IOM, OIC, Reps of reputed NGO,s experienced in this field of both the States, and other concerned agencies,i.e. Rabitat, Habitat,etc. Firstly to ascertain their true I.D,through modern scientific methods.

Next step, would be once the exact correct details are ascertained,based on International Rules and norms, an series of meeting and conferences are required.

Repatriation, rehabilitation,employment opportunities could be worked out accordingly, we could request for funding from the International Agencies and other Humanitarian organisations,as was done in the other similar cases.

However, the process in rather a lengthy one, the base line being, a honest commitments from both the States.