The U.S. just sent a carrier strike group to confront China

[gambit]

US can fight only one war either they have to fight the middle east war or the SCS, either way the americans are screwed and they dont know to which way to go

The ME is land which requires the army. The SCS is water which requires the navy. You can tell the difference, no ?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Yup, Any one can send a ship. But who has the guts to fire the first shot and its way too late to give an entry.
If US wanted they should have come early and prevented china from construction on island. It now looks like they have come for window shopping and nothing else.

USA can do nothing about the construction of artificial Islands in international waters as there are no laws against it.

However Chinese attempt dictate what ships pass through SCS can be easily challenged by USA.

 

[Dungeness]

Yes, it's the Right time.
When China is to Decide Defence Budget for this Fiscal Year Lol

Now, Chinese Official in Government who support hike in Defence Spending will have "Bigger Balls"
to Increased Significantly China's Defence Spending.

I think 2% from GDP is to Low for China's Military Budget
China must Increase their Military Budget to 3% from their GDP in the near Future (2020)
Even Americans spend 3.5% of their GDP for Military Expenditure.

China may just increase 7-8% on defense budget this year, so everyone can just let go their nerve. But we all know a big part of Chinese defense budget is hidden, like the 100 billion they are going to spend on jet engine.

 

[Tiqiu]

Where are those so called allies ships? Have the Americans forgot the safety in numbers that their mother always told them?.

This move is expected when China started the phase2 building in the SCS. Something needs to be done to alleviate pressure Russian is facing in ME. Soon Russians will do the same somehow somewhere. This is called global strategic cooperation in case the Americans are not aware of.

Rest assured, China is watching 24/7, just look up the sky.

Chinese GF-4(world first remote sensing satellite at GEO) launched Dec 2015 gazing at one spot

 

[Daniel808]

China may just increase 7-8% on defense budget this year, so everyone can just let go their nerve. But we all know a big part of Chinese defense budget is hidden, like the 100 billion they are going to spend on jet engine.

Yes, China "True" Defence Spending is different than China's Published Defence Budget.
Including for Military Research and Development, like R&D Jet Engine. and also for China's Strategic Rocket Forces.

China's defense spending is by no means transparent.
China's published defense budget does not include large categories of expenditure, including expenses for strategic forces, foreign acquisitions, military-related research and development, and China's paramilitary forces.

 

[Indika]

USA can do nothing about the construction of artificial Islands in international waters as there are no laws against it.

However Chinese attempt dictate what ships pass through SCS can be easily challenged by USA.

How is the question? Sanction will backfire. Fight is ruled out as it is near to chinese territory which will give a huge advantage.
US will simply sit and watch like they did for crimea. At the best they can provoke viets or filipinos to take a shot.

 

[sicsheep]

The ME is land which requires the army. The SCS is water which requires the navy. You can tell the difference, no ?

Afghanistan or Iraq didn't have a Navy like the one Chinese have, you can tell the difference?

 

[gambit]

Afghanistan or Iraq didn't have a Navy like the one Chinese have, you can tell the difference?

Yeah...I can tell the difference between the US Navy and the PLAN in terms of combat experience and potential power. Can you ?

 

[Dungeness]

This is china's own fault. You don't do stupid things like build artificial islands to make claims on territory. If that was the case every country would have built islands everywhere in the world to make claims.

If it were truly a "stupid thing" that China did, US would not have been so pissed that they have to make an announcement about their "innocent pass" in SCS. China did step on some tails, but China did push their defense line a few hundred nmi forward. How this could even be considered "stupid thing"?

If India had a chance to build some islands in the middle of Indian Ocean, would you consider it a "stupid thing" too?

 

[sicsheep]

Yeah...I can tell the difference between the US Navy and the PLAN in terms of combat experience and potential power. Can you ?

Experience in what exactly?

Here is what experience US have.

Quote "
Not since the Vietnam War has the United States fought a sustained air superiority
campaign in which U.S. aircraft were challenged by both enemy fighters and groundbased
air defenses. Not since World War II has it fought an enemy capable of putting
its major surface ships or submarines at risk through anything other than surprise, oneoff
raids. Nor since that time has it fought a high-intensity war in which its support
facilities, including regional air and naval bases, were expected to operate while under
systematic conventional attack. And it has never fought an opponent armed with precision
standoff weapons, operationalized counterspace capabilities, or well-developed
and practiced cyberwarfare capabilities, much less one armed with nuclear weapons.
Yet a conflict with China would likely see all of these things—an air and naval war
fought at high intensity using new generations of weapons and supported by a wide
range of high-technology systems.
Unquote

 

[gambit]

Experience in what exactly?

Here is what experience US have.

Quote "
Not since the Vietnam War has the United States fought a sustained air superiority
campaign in which U.S. aircraft were challenged by both enemy fighters and groundbased
air defenses. Not since World War II has it fought an enemy capable of putting
its major surface ships or submarines at risk through anything other than surprise, oneoff
raids. Nor since that time has it fought a high-intensity war in which its support
facilities, including regional air and naval bases, were expected to operate while under
systematic conventional attack. And it has never fought an opponent armed with precision
standoff weapons, operationalized counterspace capabilities, or well-developed
and practiced cyberwarfare capabilities, much less one armed with nuclear weapons.
Yet a conflict with China would likely see all of these things—an air and naval war
fought at high intensity using new generations of weapons and supported by a wide
range of high-technology systems.
Unquote

Your PLA predicted high casualties for US in Desert Storm.

Whoever made that comment, no surprise that you did not source it, probably either forgot or did not know that fact.

 

[sicsheep]

Your PLA predicted high casualties for US in Desert Storm.

Whoever made that comment, no surprise that you did not source it, probably either forgot or did not know that fact.

The source is "The U.S. -China Military Scorecard" by the Rand Corp. sorry to disappoint, Please let me know if that statement is true or false.

 

[$@rJen]

One thing for sure.. where there's a war in SCS the Chinese are going to pay heavily... you just can't match the numbers with Superiority techs and Experience

 

[Speeder 2]

The U.S. Navy has dispatched a small armada to the South China Sea.

The carrier John C. Stennis, two destroyers, two cruisers and the 7th Fleet flagship have sailed into the disputed waters in the last 24 hours, according to military officials. The carrier strike group is the latest show of force in the tense region, with the U.S. asserting that China is militarizing the region to guard its excessive territorial claims.

Stennis is joined in the region by the cruisers Antietam and Mobile Bay, and the destroyers Chung-Hoon and Stockdale. The command ship Blue Ridge, the floating headquarters of the Japan-based 7th Fleet, is also in the area, en route to a port visit in the Philippines, and Stennis deployed from Washington State on Jan. 15.

The Japan-based Antietam, officials said, was conducting a "routine patrol" separate from the Stennis, following up patrols conducted by the destroyer McCambell and the dock landing ship Ashland in late February.

The stand-off has been heating up on both sides. After news in February that the Chinese had deployed an advanced surface-to-air missile battery to the Paracel Islands, U.S. Pacific Command head Adm. Harry Harris told lawmakers that China was militarizing the South China Sea.

"In my opinion China is clearly militarizing the South China Sea," Harris testified on Feb. 24. "You’d have to believe in a flat Earth to believe otherwise."

A 7th Fleet spokesman downplayed the heavy U.S. presence in the region.

"Our ships and aircraft operate routinely throughout the Western Pacific — including the South China Sea — and have for decades," Cmdr. Clay Doss said in a statement. "In 2015 alone, Pacific Fleet ships sailed about 700 combined days in the South China Sea."

However, experts say sending Stennis and its air wing to the South China Sea is a clear signal to China and the region.

"Clearly the Navy and DoD is demonstrating its full commitment to presence and freedom of navigation in the region,” said Jerry Hendrix, a retired Navy captain and analyst with the Center for a New American Security in Washington, D.C. “With the full carrier strike group and the command ship, the Navy is showing the scope of its interests and ability to project presence and power around world.”

The destroyer Lassen's vaunted October patrol within the 12-mile limit of China's man-made South China Sea islands was the first challenge of China's sovereignty over the Spratly Islands since Chinese land-reclamation projects began there.

On Jan. 30, the destroyer Curtis Wilbur patrolled near Triton Island, part of the Paracel Islands chain China also claims.

Six nations in the region lay claim to parts or all of the disputed islands chains. The Spratly Islands, a collection of reefs, rocks and other natural features, have been the site of extensive Chinese land reclamation projects. In the last two years, China has begun constructing islands on top of reefs and claiming territorial seas around them to gain exclusive fishing and resource rights to most of the South China Sea.

These disputes have led to violence in the past. In 1974, a conflict between South Vietnam and China led to a shootout in the Paracel Islands, located between Vietnam and China's Hainan Island. That dispute continues.

The U.S. just sent a carrier strike group to confront China

The stupidity of the US truly has no bound.

Do you really think a carrier battle group or 2 really has a chance of survivial in tight SCS?

It is perfect opportunity for China to permanently station J15, j16, JF7, H6K, land-based anti-ship missiles, early warning system radars, drones, etc to all of the major reclaimed islands, in order to to defend the freedom of navigation of the area facing the US military threats.

China's space assets, DF-21D, and DF 26 can now have their first live drill.

 

[Dungeness]

Your PLA predicted high casualties for US in Desert Storm.

Whoever made that comment, no surprise that you did not source it, probably either forgot or did not know that fact.

PL:A did not predict, some TV talking heads did. They obviously thought Saddam's republic guards had at least as much balls as Vietcong, they were wrong.