Another thread where the self righteous Pakistanis are crying about what the armed forces do as if they know better than generals with 40 years of experience. You lot are sitting behind keyboards on a Defence Forum. You do not know the needs, wants and requirements of our armed forces. We can’t replace the Mirages overnight. They are not obsolete. Especially with the ROSE upgrades they have. That’s why the F7s, which are crash prone, are being replaced first, until then we need to keep the Mirages flying. These air craft are being ordered for spare parts since they aren’t produced by Dassault anymore. Can you people please think just a little bit before becoming Defence experts?
A few points to prove this deals need;
1. We get to keep our Mirages flying that have A much better safety and Victory record (27th February being the latest example) Than the F7s which need urgent replacement.
2. We probably got them for a price good enough for the deal to be worth it. Again, the military knows better. Not teenagers on a Defence forum.
3. Some people mentioned how “5 SU 35s” or “J-10s” or “‘Mirage 2000s” or “a few gripens” are a better deal. Can you please read your own posts and see the flaws in it? First compare the price difference of the jets themselves. Then compare how much time and money will be needed to set up a complex to maintain these, buy weapons for them, train pilots for them. Until then we would be at a loss of flying jets. And what the hell are we gonna do with 5 of a type of jet? Make a independent wing? Tf?.
Please Pakistanis. Think before you post.
All u need to know, is there are more then 10 options avalible against that deal, but why we opted it just because PAF can get them in quick time, replace thier avionics, and upgrade them to JFT BLK 2 level, it's all r Jst quick fix while, if u think we can't get J10s on a loan from China then wake up wear your uniform and go to school???
Even though put economy is on worst of its shape but still, we have a strategic value for many powers in. East and west, it's not like you go for shopping vegetables in a market with no money in ur pockets???
whts the most concerning strategic project pakistan is doing in its territory???
I gss its called CEPAC and who is against it?
And who's thinks it's it's life line ???
deals just not happens because everyone wants money, it happens what interests and strategical gains it can bring?
Russia, China can be approached at any time and deal can be done at anytime but only you have a serious leadership in Place?
Pakistan still is in a much better condition then of sirya, who been supported by Russia in. The Middle of thier Civil War???
These mirrages r just a quick fix and that's all, but PAF needs a better deal then that, there r many options if u start using ur mind, J10s , J11BS, SU35s r good deals to work with
Alan Warnes is a credible source of news regarding PAF, atleast he have close contacts with top brass of PAF. These Mirages will surely have ample flying hours left in them. An RC400 fitted Mirage V with BVR missiles in the hands of a PAF pilot can actually face any of IAF fighters in current fleet. The Mirage rebuild factory can do wonders and PAF engineers can customize an aircraft beyond our imaginations.
30 of such aircrafts can fill a stopgap of atleast 2 years i.e. PAC produces 30 units in 2 years which will be enough time to deploy BVR capable jets in CAP missions. I am watching CAP patrols of PAF from last 3 months, this operational readiness and war time deployment is enough for old machines like Mirages so we have to supplement the Mirage fleet on warfootings. Something is better than nothing.
So u mean, PAC can develop a mirage 5 into a F35???
Everything has its limits, and these mirrages are too, Thts just a quick fix but not the solution
