The original sin of Yakub Memon

[doppelganger]

The original sin of terrorist Yakub Memon was that he got caught.

Everything followed from there.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Pandit je Go ahead who is stopping you to destroy us,oh wait you tried but failed miserably see.....Third Battle of Panipat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nothing was done to idol and cow worshipers only Muslim Ideology was thousand times superior to native so they Got native population in there fold very easily.

tum log pani pat, jub rasool they 1400 years ago wageyrah karte rahna. Kuch ata pata bhi hai kaun se zamane me rehte ho? Zaid Hamid ghodo mein aka Gazwa karne nikla tha, ab usko lashein lag rahi hai barah sau.

The original sin of terrorist Yakub Memon was that he got caught.

Everything followed from there.

Now that's the most intelligent thing in the whole thread. People forget that he is fundamentally a terrorist, whether one talks about a 'deal' or not.

 

[doppelganger]

Now that's the most intelligent thing in the whole thread. People forget that he is fundamentally a terrorist, whether one talks about a 'deal' or not.

I have never claimed to be anything other than intelligent.

I am disgusted by the outpouring of sympathy from the Muslims of Mumbai. I have Muslim friends tell me that if it hadn't been for the bomb blasts the ongoing Hindu purge against them would have continued.

I don't care for that line of reasoning. Because it tells me that when push comes to shove, they still consider Pakistan to be their spiritual and security fountainhead. To run to when the going gets tough in the country their forefathers chose as their own. To run to for refuge as the port of last recourse.

If so, the Partition was a job left incomplete. And the purge was justified. Cart and the horse situation here. Cause Hindus have no port of last recourse. And this IS our fountainhead.

Bottom line is you wage war against the nation and join forces with the mortal enemy, you have your neck stretched.

You come out on the streets to show sympathy and solidarity with him that has had his neck stretched, you put a sign above your head that you are to be closely watched as one with the potential to have his neck stretched in the future.

 

[r0ck]

^ Wow, you nailed it.

So Indians don't care for the line of reasoning that Muslims were being lynched, murdered and raped.

They should've just accepted all of it and not retaliated in any way.

 

[doppelganger]

^ Wow, you nailed it.

So Indians don't care for the line of reasoning that Muslims were being lynched, murdered and raped.

They should've just accepted all of it and not retaliated in any way.

They should have fought back harder. On their own. Not run to Pakistan to wage war on the country that housed you fed you and nurtured you and the generations before you till time fades into the obscurity of history.

It was a purge. That had been in the making for a few decades. Don't be naive like other gullibles that Babri Masjid triggered it. That was just the match.

It was a war for Mumbai. And the Muslims lost.

Hope that was not too blunt for you to swallow.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Dubai eye

The more things change in the great republic of ours the more they remain the same. Many had suspected it when Afzal Guru from Kashmir was quietly hanged and buried inside the Tihar Jail in February 2013, ahead of the general elections.
And now as Yakub Memon is being ready to be executed after 21 years on the death row, India’s Muslims are all convinced that they have become the favourite sacrificial animals of the nation to be offered from time to time at the altar of public opinion to propitiate the gods of democracy and hyper-nationalism. Yet another ritual killing to satisfy some perverse longing, as Sukumar Muralidharan put it.
In the blessed land where cows are sacred, Muslim blood is seemingly the cheapest commodity – to be shed from time to time in frenzied communal bloodletting, staged killings by law-enforcement agencies or in judicially sanctioned murders of innocent men by the state. Just as the African Americans were lynched for decades and centuries in that other glorious democracy, often under the benign gaze of the state and upholders of law.

Muslims have become the new Jim Crows of the 21st century, taking over the exalted status that the Dalits, the low caste Hindus, have enjoyed for thousands of years.
How else do you justify hanging someone who came forward, of his own volition, to surrender in order to clear his name and that of his family when he had ostensibly been under no compulsion to do so.
After all, when terror struck Mumbai in the summer of 1993 killing 257 people, Yakub Memon and his entire family had been safely away from the long arm of the law, first in Dubai where they had been holidaying and later in Pakistan where they all fled for fear of reprisals.
Yakub Menon has maintained all along that he had no foreknowledge of, and no hand in, the conspiracy leading to the Bombay serial blasts.
More important, the prosecutor failed to offer a single piece of credible evidence to prove that Yakub or his family had anything to do with the attacks, apparently masterminded by the Mumbai underworld don Dawood Ibrahim and his henchmen, including Ibrahim ‘Tiger’ Memon, the eldest of Memon brothers.
The only crime that Yakub Memon and his family could be accused of is the sin of being related to Tiger Memon, who remains ensconced apparently in Karachi.
This is a classic case of guilt by association. Since Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon remain beyond the reach of the Indian law, let us hang and imprison for life whomever we have and get done with it.
As Yakub reasoned in his moving letter to the Chief Justice of India written five years after his surrender, “According to the prosecution if one member does any wrong,[the] entire family …can be punished and society can be shown that the justice is being done. The main reason for implicating us in the case is that we were in relation (to) and association of the prime accused. Now to be in relation to anyone is not a crime… We do not deny our relation and association with Ibrahim Memon …as a relative and nothing more.”
Above all, Yakub, his wife, his young daughter who was months old when he returned and the rest of the family are guilty of believing in rule of law and the objectivity and ability of the country’s judicial system to deliver justice.
Yakub returned in 1994 believing there would be a fair trial. He was plainly wrong. The special TADA court decreed capital punishment for him because of his “position of dominance” and the “gravity of the crime.” Strange logic that. Similar logic was invoked later by the Supreme Court in the case of Afzal Guru, citing ‘public sentiment’ although no direct, incriminating evidence existed.
Ironically, the top court, which has just rejected Yakub’s clemency petition, last year commuted the death sentence of 15 convicts in view of their long wait on the death row. The court reasoned: “Incarceration, in addition to the reasonable time necessary for adjudication of mercy petitions and preparation for execution, flouts the due process guaranteed to the convict under Article 21.”
The same due process has been denied to Yakub Memon.
In the words of Jyoti Punwani, if Yakub Memon is eventually hanged next week, the disturbing message that India will be sending out is this: If you have committed a crime and have been lucky enough to escape, good for you. “If you are suspected of having committed a crime but want to return to India to try and clear your name, be prepared for the worst. Far better to spend your life in luxury.”
Yakub and his family came back to India, as he insists in his letter to the Supreme Court, to “wipe out the stigma attached to our name” and because they had “faith in our government and judiciary” to do justice.
Were they wrong to do so?
Ironically, Yakub brought hundreds of documents that not only proved his innocence but had been critical to building the prosecution’s case in the Bombay blasts case against Dawood and Tiger Memon. He cooperated with the investigating agencies and provided vital leads which have been acknowledged.
By turning themselves in and bringing all that crucial evidence Yakub and his family hoped they would get a reprieve, if not total forgiveness.
How wrong they were!
In his petition to the highest court in the land pleading his innocence, Yakub talks about his ordinary, if mundane, life before fate snatched everything away: SSC with 70 percent grades, then college in the morning and work during the day, graduation, post-graduation, four years of hard work to become a chartered accountant, and then setting up his own CA firm with a Hindu partner – Mehta and Memon Associates. “We were doing very well...I was very busy. The purpose of giving this brief about myself is to bring home just one single point: “Where was the hate?...” (upper case in the original).
Indeed, the notoriously enterprising clan that he comes from is known to do little other than excel at minting money. There is no time to hate. In the interesting times that we live in, though, there are enough reasons and excuses to hate and discipline the tribe that Yakub Memon and Afzal Guru happen to belong to.
It matters little if they are indeed guilty of the crimes they are accused of. Their original sin is enough to condemn them forever. They are guilty until proven otherwise. Every single time.
And heaven forbid if anyone should bring up the original crime in the chain of events that may have led to the audacious March 12, 1993 terror strikes on the symbols of India’s economic might – the endless dance of death in Mumbai after the demolition of the Babri Masjid on December 6, 1992.
More than a thousand people, mostly Muslims, were killed in the pogrom; hundreds of homes and businesses were destroyed and thousands fled their homes.
Yet, as Jyoti Punwani points out, neither those who presided over the destruction of the historical Babri Masjid in full view of the world nor those found guilty of orchestrating the subsequent riots were punished, even though criminal offences were registered against the perpetrators and two judicial commissions named and indicted specific individuals for both crimes.
Among those named were at least 31 police officers, who were charged with “extreme communal conduct” against the minority community including lynching, rape and murder. None of them has been punished.
Nearly all the offenders in both events not only managed to get away scot-free; some of them went on to rule the country as federal ministers. BJP leader Lal Krishna Advani, who charioted the Ayodhya rath yatra, even graced the high offices of the home minister and deputy prime minister.
What does it all prove? That the greatest of democracies are not above succumbing to the hysteria of the mob and failing the most vulnerable and dispossessed in their midst. There are various degrees of equality before law and your guilt, or lack of it, has nothing to do with your crime.

The original sin of Yakub Memon - Aijaz Zaka Syed

Just because the last 3 hangings in India were of muslims (2 indian muslims and 1 pakistani muslim) does not make muslims a sacrificial animal. Lets see how many muslims have been hanged in Pakistan in last 10 years and how many in India?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

They were and still aree cowards

a sheep will act brave if you dress it up as a lion. However underneath a sheep is a sheep. Alas that is the case of hindus today


its your cowardice that brought you under foreign boots in the first place.. Independence or the lack of it has nothing to do with bravery.

However ones religion dosent define who is brave or not. Its more about motivation. In general cases Muslims has been, are and will always be braver compared to hindus.

Have you tried dressing a sheep as a lion to check whether it will act brave? If you did so, then that is plainly weird man.

Wasn't your nation (now called Pakistan) also under "foreign boots" for a long time? Or has reality evaded your senses whilst your were busy dressing that sheep as a lion ? On that point, when you dressed the sheep as a lion, did it bleat or did it roar? Just asking

 

[Jobless Jack]

Have you tried dressing a sheep as a lion to check whether it will act brave? If you did so, then that is plainly weird man.

Wasn't your nation (now called Pakistan) also under "foreign boots" for a long time? Or has reality evaded your senses whilst your were busy dressing that sheep as a lion ? On that point, when you dressed the sheep as a lion, did it bleat or did it roar? Just asking

you missed the point completely.

 

[r0ck]

They should have fought back harder. On their own. Not run to Pakistan to wage war on the country that housed you fed you and nurtured you and the generations before you till time fades into the obscurity of history.

It was a purge. That had been in the making for a few decades. Don't be naive like other gullibles that Babri Masjid triggered it. That was just the match.

It was a war for Mumbai. And the Muslims lost.

Hope that was not too blunt for you to swallow.

How can a minority (on their own) fight harder than the majority? You think the other party would not have done the same had they been in such a position?

Now you're the one being truly naive and gullible here.

When even the local law enforcement authorities are involved in committing atrocities, how can any person expect the suffering party to just keep suffering, die trying harder; But keep upholding any perceived moral codes.

This is just beyond me.

Anyways, fair enough that Indian Hindus want to classify the limits for Indian Muslims that they shouldn't have done this, shouldn't have done that, shouldn't have gone there, etc.

Perhaps similar limits should also be prescribed for Indian Hindus.

Here's to hoping you're frank about admitting this.

 

[Super Falcon]

The mosque was demolished , no one was killed in its demolition - at least not Muslims.

How can anyone hide behind the logic of being provoked to carry out a bombing ?

Are u nuts open history and re read it and if you destroy mosques and worship areas you bound to get replies like that better u never demolish worship areas of other religion it is as cruel as killing human so u cannot defend it and it is nog a justification

 

[Kao Boy]

Some seems to be relating this heinous crime with religion, it is a fact that any case involving a Hindu extremists would never end us this way rather amnesty... Yakoob perhaps did wrong but he spent considerable time in jail for his involvement .. He was not the main culprit hence shouldn't have got this fate... Wanna be PM Mr. ADVANI did same but his act was hidden behind religious activity hence no one challenged it... I again insist he must have done wrong but he spent such a long time behind bars repenting for his alleged involvement...

Such a bizzare propaganda article. Relax Pakistani media. Stop spreading lies to the world because its useless. The ones who matter knows the reality.

You desperately need research on Babri Masjid aftermath... Put down your racket and start spending Time on researching...

 

[third eye]

Are u nuts open history and re read it and if you destroy mosques and worship areas you bound to get replies like that better u never demolish worship areas of other religion it is as cruel as killing human so u cannot defend it and it is nog a justification

History has it that temples have been demolished for centuries.

Going by this logic Hindus should have forever been gunning for those who demolished them.

 

[Kao Boy]

History has it that temples have been demolished for centuries.

Going by this logic Hindus should have forever been gunning for those who demolished them.

That's happened when you and me were not their nor any law to abolish such acts.. Raja Ranjeet Singh reign was till Afghanistan had he built any Temple by demolishing Mosque do you think it should have been the same way.. Taliban almost destroyed pagans, Buddhist and other temples in Afghanistan, so any act like that is as good as Talibani act.

 

[ZooZoo]

Reality is when u destroy babri masjid which is in it self a crime whem muslim retaliate u hang them you did not hanged those who did destroy babri masjid and provoked killings of 10000 people and provoked muslims to bomb mumbai so start from head when did ur democracy hanged any hindu terrorist 10000 example but i give u one which will not only shut your mouth but every hole samjhota express culprit hindu prooven for bombing and he is now free

Which Babri Masjid was destroyed in USA?? Which Babri Masjid Destroyed in UK? Which Babri Masjid Destroyed in Pakistan, Afghansitan, Iraq. Syria and Egypt??

One Temple was liberated and your religion hurt.. How many temples your ancestors have destroyed have you counted??

The First temple destroyed was Kabba, There were 300+ idols which was destroyed by Muhammd (though muslim claim he liberated it, but the act of breaking idols is count as distruction).

There should be no execuse for terrorism.


and and they say "Terror has no religion"

 

[punit]

Reality is when u destroy babri masjid which is in it self a crime whem muslim retaliate u hang them you did not hanged those who did destroy babri masjid and provoked killings of 10000 people and provoked muslims to bomb mumbai so start from head when did ur democracy hanged any hindu terrorist 10000 example but i give u one which will not only shut your mouth but every hole samjhota express culprit hindu prooven for bombing and he is now free

Just one temple somnath temple was destroyed 17 times.. should be kill Muslim for each destruction.