The Only Way to World Peace is an Islamic Union

[Kompromat]

Not everyone looks at everything from religious lens. There are much more important things like shared values and national objectives.
Ex. NATO is not a Christian alliance, otherwise Turkey would not be a member.

China is India's enemy and will remain until India is completely contained.
Russia is moving away from India which is an evidence that they might be scrapping the cold war mentality.

Turkey is in because of its strategic location and the fact that it has the 2nd largest military.

 

[Kaniska]

There is no such divide, not bigger than Catholics and Protestants.

What do Indian Hindus, Chinese atheists and Russian orthodox share in common?

At least we can think of one thing is common...Indian Hindus and Russian and Chinies want better quality of life and economic development as a more important thing in life rather than creating a religion based union or identity of its own....We have lot of differences but the good part is that Russia and India are any way will be close to each other....And if India and China develop at the same pace like they are developing now, Economic progress will be primary criteria for 3 nation to unite with each other...

Again, I am not trying to limit with even these 3 blocks too...India should ally with any nation including Pakistan too, that gives us economic advantage in the log run...That should be the only criteria India GOV should be focusing on..

 

[The SC]

Right now education is not a problem....once you have a union you end up with boko haram, taliban,ISIS types in huge numbers who will bring about their version of religion. The silent majority will stay silent and end up following the whims of the extremists

Your logic does not hold here my friend, those examples of the organizations you have mentionned are in different contexts, geographies, reasons and foreign interventions. A muslim Union will thwart these organizations by fairness, and they will have no reasons to exist.
You are not trolling I hope!

 

[Kaniska]

Your logic does not hold here my friend, those examples of the organizations you have mentionned are in different contexts, geographies, reasons and foreign interventions. A muslim Union will thwart these organizations by fairness, and they will have no reasons to exist.
You are not trolling I hope!

Can the Muslim Union like OIC able to thrawt Alqueda of ISIS or any militant group you can name of....Ohh..I got it, you can very well said that Non Muslim sponsored these organization....Make sense..I agree...US and West try to follow divide and rule ...But again, why your people and organization who are so much religious in nature, get sold our so easily? ...What are the example that Muslim blocks like OIC has contributed so as to stop the creation of such extremist groups...

 

[shuntmaster]

China is India's enemy and will remain until India is completely contained.
Russia is moving away from India which is an evidence that they might be scrapping the cold war mentality.

Turkey is in because of its strategic location and the fact that it has the 2nd largest military.

Unfortunately, you don't decide the national policies of India, China or Russia mate.. There is a huge gap in what you wish should happen and actual reality...
India and China see each other as rivals than enemies. Their over 2000 years relationship has been very peaceful. Both share common dharmic values. Russia-India relationship is stronger than it ever was.

 

[Kompromat]

Unfortunately, you don't decide the national policies of India, China or Russia mate.. There is a huge gap in what you wish should happen and actual reality...
India and China see each other as rivals than enemies. Their over 2000 years relationship has been very peaceful. Both share common dharmic values. Russia-India relationship is stronger than it ever was.

Having a peaceful relationship is one thing, building a utopian union is another. India is agitating BRICS and they are predicting the same will happen in SCO. Good luck anyway

 

[shuntmaster]

Having a peaceful relationship is one thing, building a utopian union is another. India is agitating BRICS and they are predicting the same will happen in SCO. Good luck anyway

All you get is speculation and wishful thinking??

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Isn't Obama a born Muslim?

Don't know does it really matter?

 

[shuntmaster]

Don't know does it really matter?

Nope.. I only posted it only to shut up people who claim that US only elects white-Christians..

 

[Kompromat]

All you get is speculation and wishful thinking??

Speculation and Wishful thinking for me, wet dreams for you.

 

[The SC]

Separation of Church and State was originally promulgated by Christians themselves though.

Wrong sir, the ottoman empire initiated that before Europe, the Muslims have separated the Mosques and the politics. The government ruled by Qanoun or what we call today law.

In others of your remarks you seem to think that a Muslim states Union will be based on religion, which is not correct, only its underlying will be Islam, the rest will be Law, Economics, Education, R&D, Defense and the betterment of its peoples conditions, all legitimate aims with no malice against anyone.

 

[Kaniska]

Having a peaceful relationship is one thing, building a utopian union is another. India is agitating BRICS and they are predicting the same will happen in SCO. Good luck anyway

Of course your argument is valid and makes sense...Based on recent histroy, it seems challenging for India and China to ally for some reason....But if i go by history, India and China does not have that kind of frustrating relationship....India has a problem with Pakistan because, India has been attacked by Muslim invaders and Pakistan idealizes itself with those invader people...Where as India does not have that kind of historical baggage with China...India and China may be rival but not enemy...I hope one day, each of us either China or India will find its own place in their relationship...If China continue to develop in the same pace and India continue to falter its pace of development like it has happened in last 10 year, then India has to accept China has superior power....So once that level of power equation is established, then both side will understand how to work with each other for mutual benefit..

Wrong sir, the ottoman empire initiated that before Europe, the Muslims have separated the Mosques and the politics. The government ruled by Qanoun or what we call today law.

In others of your remarks you seem to think that a Muslim states Union will be based on religion, which is not correct, only its underlying will be Islam, the rest will be Law, Economics, Education, R&D, Defense and the betterment of its peoples conditions, all legitimate aims with no malice against anyone.

Now i can see your statement as a wishful thinking...If this is really what the intention of this thread..then its a great news...

 

[Kompromat]

Of course your argument is valid and makes sense...Based on recent histroy, it seems challenging for India and China to ally for some reason....But if i go by history, India and China does not have that kind of frustrating relationship....India has a problem with Pakistan because, India has been attacked by Muslim invaders and Pakistan idealizes itself with those invader people...Where as India does not have that kind of historical baggage with China...India and China may be rival but not enemy...I hope one day, each of us either China or India will find its own place in their relationship...If China continue to develop in the same pace and India continue to falter its pace of development like it has happened in last 10 year, then India has to accept China has superior power....So once that level of power equation is established, then both side will understand how to work with each other for mutual benefit..

Working together is all good and dandy, however certains heads of state going nuts over trivial diplomatic SOPs to please their right wing audience is never helpful.

 

[The SC]

Can the Muslim Union like OIC able to thrawt Alqueda of ISIS or any militant group you can name of....Ohh..I got it, you can very well said that Non Muslim sponsored these organization....Make sense..I agree...US and West try to follow divide and rule ...But again, why your people and organization who are so much religious in nature, get sold our so easily? ...What are the example that Muslim blocks like OIC has contributed so as to stop the creation of such extremist groups...

Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC)
Association of 56 Islamic states promoting Muslim solidarity in economic, social, and political affairs

Now called:
Organisation of Islamic Cooperation
is an [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_organisation']international organisation founded in 1969 consisting of 57 member states. The organisation states that it is "the collective voice of the Muslim world" and works to "safeguard and protect the interests of the Muslim world in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony"[/URL]

This is not a Union, although it can be a step towards it.

 

[Kaniska]

Working together is all good and dandy, however certains heads of state going nuts over trivial diplomatic SOPs to please their right wing audience is never helpful.

I agree with you..You are referring to Narendra Modi...Trust me and Modi is a very unpredictable and ambitious person...He might have taken the refugee of right wing people in the intial days, but he will be one most daring PM of India who can bring any improvement of relationship of India with Pakistan...I have seen Modi evolving himself from 2002 Modi to 2014 Modi as a leader of India...So he will keep on evolving and change himself to make a mark in Indian histroy in a positive way..