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The only way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is to reform or close down Madrasas

This has little to do with Madaris, but more to do with the ENSLAVED. Who is telling you to live in our country? Most on here, are not in Pakistan. So stay there where you're humiliated and have NO self-resoect like the Sister on the plane incident!

We are Muslim and PROUD of it! Pakistan ZINDABAD!

Ahem! You have gone too far. We live abroad and are well respected and well treated.

I have never felt discriminated against. I felt discrimination and humiliation all the time in Pakistan. I was discriminated for my color, my ethnic background, my class and the area of the city I lived. I did not know what it was. But it was discrimination.

As for humiliation, try going to some govt office or a police station without resources or contacts. To commute there if you dont have your own car is utter humiliation. There is no decent public transport to talk of.

We live in Pakistan and we dont even know the meanings of discrimination and humiliation. Because we live there in a system of discrimination and humiliation. We are taught to live with it.

As for the woman who was mistreated at the airport. True there is Islamophobia. The govt here does try to address it. There will be recourse for her and there will be something done for her.

Tell me the truth. Islamophobia coming from non Muslim is worse or sectarian hatred we are slowly being poisoned with from fellow Muslim? Look inward forst before pointing fingers at others. Muslim definitely need to introspect. We are far behind the developed and emerging word. We need to realize and understand why? After all, its not all conspiracy.
 
Many of my non religious university burger friends who are quite found of doing poondi also believe in the same myths about lal masjid and masoom bachian. They don't even take name of Abdul Aziz without adding the prefix "sahab" as a show of their respect towards him. One of my friend who came from another city to Islamabad for studies used to specially go to lal masjid for friday prayers and sermon of Abdul Aziz. On a side note, many staunch opponents of TTP like Barelvis also run madrassahs. Remember mufti Sarfraz Naeemi and his Jamia Naeemia.
I understand, Madrassah itself has a wrong and unjust association with terrorism factories you completed my post with what I meant to say but missed out in the flow of thought... the emergence of evangelic Muslims from the affluent class of the society is just one example that goes against the (madrassah Bad theory) these youngsters have all the perks of life that their dads money can buy them. yet they choose the life of violent Islam without being formally educated by a madrassah.
 
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Like I said before, Indians are ignorant biased cynical people who will continue to say that because of their society like that.
So you only prove this.

You are just giving out one rhetorical statement after another

Reality is different

What are we ignorant about

And why should we be biased and cynical

Pakistan's accomplishments are testimony to everything that is wrong with it
 
You are just giving out one rhetorical statement after another

Reality is different

What are we ignorant about

And why should we be biased and cynical

Pakistan's accomplishments are testimony to everything that is wrong with it

You are only giving proof of your own attitudes.

People like you are testament to why hate is spreading.
 
You are only giving proof of your own attitudes.

People like you are testament to why hate is spreading.

Please be informed that " My attitude " and " people like me " are the
NEW Normal in India

We really are not interested in tolerating Pakistani Transgressions
against India any more

We dont hate Pakistan as you say ; our interest lies only in the terrorism directed against us

Infact it has been Pakistan which has been preaching hate for Hindus
and India ever since 1947

If you want friendship with India call off the Anti India Jihad and the Kashmir campaign
 
Please be informed that " My attitude " and " people like me " are the
NEW Normal in India

We really are not interested in tolerating Pakistani Transgressions
against India any more

We dont hate Pakistan as you say ; our interest lies only in the terrorism directed against us

Infact it has been Pakistan which has been preaching hate for Hindus
and India ever since 1947

Then the new normal looks barbaric, hateful and likely to indulge in enjoyment of Pakistani deaths?

Good to see that India is progressing as a society.
 
Then the new normal looks barbaric, hateful and likely to indulge in enjoyment of Pakistani deaths?

Good to see that India is progressing as a society.

That is just a a canard against India

Your ISI is not sitting idle ; who started this fight ; we are only retaliating

If you want peace and friendship with India ; it is VERY EASY
It can be done in a day

Just call off this jihad against India ; Get rid of the Kashmir obsession

Everything will soon fall in place
 
Good come back but what @M.SAAD is looking for is source of this extremist ideology. If not madrassas what?? Do you guys have an answer?

From your answer ISLAM is ruled out. You have ruled out Madrassas.

Is it poverty?? But poverty exists in many nations.
Is it corrupt govt , inequity, education or unemployment?? What is your take??

RAW is the answer.
 
What about the IBA graduate terrorists holding MBA degrees? Ban MBA as wello_O

Agreed...and now a days...more and more educated people are getting fanatic rather than ordinary kids from Madrassa...Rather than banning Madrassa, its better to regulate the teachers and make a regulatory mechanism to appoint them so that the source of the problem can be controlled.
 
Cant believe the current state of affairs the country is in right now, people still have a soft corner for all this...

Whole nation is at fault .
Its you who are at fault here you have no idea about the issue and talking.
 
yet they choose the life of violent Islam

''violent Islam''

Can I assume you're not a Muslim? This is the language of the disbelievers. Having spent a good part of my life studying Islam, I've never heard of this except on Christendom Media. Please enlighten us from the scriptures?
 
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Ahem! You have gone too far. We live abroad and are well respected and well treated.

I have never felt discriminated against. I felt discrimination and humiliation all the time in Pakistan. I was discriminated for my color, my ethnic background, my class and the area of the city I lived. I did not know what it was. But it was discrimination.

As for humiliation, try going to some govt office or a police station without resources or contacts. To commute there if you dont have your own car is utter humiliation. There is no decent public transport to talk of.

We live in Pakistan and we dont even know the meanings of discrimination and humiliation. Because we live there in a system of discrimination and humiliation. We are taught to live with it.

As for the woman who was mistreated at the airport. True there is Islamophobia. The govt here does try to address it. There will be recourse for her and there will be something done for her.

Tell me the truth. Islamophobia coming from non Muslim is worse or sectarian hatred we are slowly being poisoned with from fellow Muslim? Look inward forst before pointing fingers at others. Muslim definitely need to introspect. We are far behind the developed and emerging word. We need to realize and understand why? After all, its not all conspiracy.

When I was saying ''you'', it was in third person. However, you're also making the mistake of speaking for others, ''WE''. For the last 14 yrs there has been a property boom in A.K. Situation is getting harder for Muslims in Christendom, so they're leaving.

Your experiences are not inidicative of others. There are black-Christians being gunned down in the US. There are job discriminations, etc. Who said this is right? But laws can't change peoples attitudes.

You're talking about ''resouces'' i.e bribery. This is haram to give! Yes, we need to get rid of the scum that rule us. We need a regime change. However, we differ from others, we pray that Allah removes the Zalimoon and replaces them with Salihoon!

''Islamaphobia''= Things must be really BAD in Christendom for you to coin-up such a name. Who would know if you're Sunni, Shia, etc if you don't display it? Being a Muslim in Christendom is open warfare on especially on brothers with beards' and on our sisters who wear hijab. France, Germany, USA, etc. I'm sure the sister on the plane used to wave the USA flag until it bit her!

We are behind in the World not because of Islam. Islam was the foremost in sciences, developments and adab (mannerism).

Those who rule us have NO stake our country. Their MONEY is in Christendom banks. They see Pakistan as a cash ''cow'' and milk it until it dies. They are NOT Pakistanis! They're TRAITORS! They have NO business being in Pakistan!

Living on the ''front-line'', never do I fear the Indians because we know what they are. What I do fear is TRAITORS, MUNAFAQ who are trying to break-up the country and trying to attack our religion. These hypocrites know, Islam is the backbone of our country, that gives us strength.
 
That is just a a canard against India

Your ISI is not sitting idle ; who started this fight ; we are only retaliating

If you want peace and friendship with India ; it is VERY EASY
It can be done in a day

Just call off this jihad against India ; Get rid of the Kashmir obsession

Everything will soon fall in place

Not me. I would rather see both India and Pakistan burn..

Ahem! You have gone too far. We live abroad and are well respected and well treated.

I have never felt discriminated against. I felt discrimination and humiliation all the time in Pakistan. I was discriminated for my color, my ethnic background, my class and the area of the city I lived. I did not know what it was. But it was discrimination.

As for humiliation, try going to some govt office or a police station without resources or contacts. To commute there if you dont have your own car is utter humiliation. There is no decent public transport to talk of.

We live in Pakistan and we dont even know the meanings of discrimination and humiliation. Because we live there in a system of discrimination and humiliation. We are taught to live with it.

As for the woman who was mistreated at the airport. True there is Islamophobia. The govt here does try to address it. There will be recourse for her and there will be something done for her.

Tell me the truth. Islamophobia coming from non Muslim is worse or sectarian hatred we are slowly being poisoned with from fellow Muslim? Look inward forst before pointing fingers at others. Muslim definitely need to introspect. We are far behind the developed and emerging word. We need to realize and understand why? After all, its not all conspiracy.
Delusions are common in Pakistan.. 90% of the nation suffers from it.
 
Not me. I would rather see both India and Pakistan burn..


Delusions are common in Pakistan.. 90% of the nation suffers from it.

But why?? What is it that drives this madness?? I have been on PDF for some time but I have not been able to comprehend your obsession for Kashmir. Even if you got your Kashmir tomorrow, you think you guys will live in peace. Your country is so big and you guys have abundant resources and a young work force- what is stopping you from prospering and let other prosper.
 
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