The only way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is to reform or close down Madrasas

[CIS-TRANS]

Well you don't see violent clashes in Madrassas , But you may find different student wings of political organization harassing and promoting violent culture in Universities. targeted killings of professors and students are common, And these same students are operating the militants wing of Terror groups and political organizations. A Madarassa kid lacks much of communication qualities but a university student is well aware of how to manipulate or enhance the brain of others.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

There is NO, I repeat No difference between education levels in terms of Indians and Pakistanis for their upper and middle class education standards..

That is NOT true at all

 

[Salik]

Lal Mazjid forgotten? The reaction was huge and lethal..

Don't use weapons here, offer handsome amount of money to head of madrasa, its like purchasing. Use other tactics but what is best alternative of petrodollars, zakaat, sadqaat, atteyaat, fitrana and kurbani ki khaalen? Who will want to leave it.

 

[Force-India]

Madrassas are important for education in Pakistan. Closing them will be a bad idea.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What about the IBA graduate terrorists holding MBA degrees? Ban MBA as well

valid counter argument.
these "educated" terrorists provide the higher tier of terrorists within their organisations with the lower ranks being filled by Deobandi Madrassah students . students aside there are Islamabad residents with white collar jobs who believe that Musharraf used PAF to bomb white phosphorus on Red Mosque ( any military buzz word is added in to signify the severity of an event).
nationalisation can take place anywhere as you have shown. but it is normally true that most deprived, vulnerable, poor are those that are prone to be exploited by criminals and terrorists.

Madrassas are important for education in Pakistan. Closing them will be a bad idea.

they b provide free education, food and shelter to poor students. the extremism and hate literature needs to be checked and prevented their reform is needed so that these students dont feel alienated in the society and fall victim to terrorist propoganda

 

[Psychic]

valid counter argument.
these "educated" terrorists provide the higher tier of terrorists within their organisations with the lower ranks being filled by Deobandi Madrassah students . students aside there are Islamabad residents with white collar jobs who believe that Musharraf used PAF to bomb white phosphorus on Red Mosque ( any military buzz word is added in to signify the severity of an event).
nationalisation can take place anywhere as you have shown. but it is normally true that most deprived, vulnerable, poor are those that are prone to be exploited by criminals and terrorists.


they b provide free education, food and shelter to poor students. the extremism and hate literature needs to be checked and prevented their reform is needed so that these students dont feel alienated in the society and fall victim to terrorist propoganda

Many of my non religious university burger friends who are quite found of doing poondi also believe in the same myths about lal masjid and masoom bachian. They don't even take name of Abdul Aziz without adding the prefix "sahab" as a show of their respect towards him. One of my friend who came from another city to Islamabad for studies used to specially go to lal masjid for friday prayers and sermon of Abdul Aziz. On a side note, many staunch opponents of TTP like Barelvis also run madrassahs. Remember mufti Sarfraz Naeemi and his Jamia Naeemia.

 

[IrbiS]

The only realistic way to tackle terrorism in Pakistan is to cut off their root/supply chain which are the Madrasas. These places are a breathing ground for extremist ideology and unless we tackle this problem first and foremost the situation in country will only get worse. I personally have two very close relatives who have gone through this system and let me tell you if these so called religious schools are not dealt with soon there will be millions of ticking time bombs with ideologies that make you wonder what religious scripture they are following will be roaming the streets and the security situation in the country will continue to deteriorate.

For every terrorist that is killed there are 10 more which are produced by some of these so called schools. If our military continues to allow this to go on and pursue the same failed regional policy of 80s and mid 90s soon KPK will not be the only region where the army will be fighting these terrorists, this problem will spread throughout the country if we continue to sit back and allow the brainwashing of kids to continue in the pretext of Madrasas.

That's like hitler's final solution. If we shut down all the madrasas then more '' educated '' kids will be doing this s**t, then would we close all educational institutions?

We just gotta cut the cancer affected part and fuze religious education with formal under a system and keep an eye

 

[CIS-TRANS]

valid counter argument.
these "educated" terrorists provide the higher tier of terrorists within their organisations with the lower ranks being filled by Deobandi Madrassah students . students aside there are Islamabad residents with white collar jobs who believe that Musharraf used PAF to bomb white phosphorus on Red Mosque ( any military buzz word is added in to signify the severity of an event).
nationalisation can take place anywhere as you have shown. but it is normally true that most deprived, vulnerable, poor are those that are prone to be exploited by criminals and terrorists.

I don't think most of poor, ordinary folks join terror cells, most of them are ideologue and not all Madarassa students are easy target for them, Its specific segment with a special background , no matter how much liberal their society is, A person having separate thoughts will always attract towards the gathering which suits him.

 

[Shan-e-ibrahim]

Don't use weapons here, offer handsome amount of money to head of madrasa, its like purchasing. Use other tactics but what is best alternative of petrodollars, zakaat, sadqaat, atteyaat, fitrana and kurbani ki khaalen? Who will want to leave it.

Hamid gul had said that financial terrorism is causing more destruction than armed.

 

[Salik]

Hamid gul had said that financial terrorism is causing more destruction than armed.

Govt purchases to neutralize them. No?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Good come back but what @M.SAAD is looking for is source of this extremist ideology. If not madrassas what?? Do you guys have an answer?

From your answer ISLAM is ruled out. You have ruled out Madrassas.

Is it poverty?? But poverty exists in many nations.
Is it corrupt govt , inequity, education or unemployment?? What is your take??

I've already answered the question: ''crooks and liars are in power''. Do you really want to know what leads to extremism? It's when people lose HOPE!

How can a country's whose gdp per capital is $1500 have so many MULTI-MILLIONAIRE politicians???

The Madaris are NOT funded by the government and we'll see how far this ''talk'' will get them.

 

[airmarshal]

Very uneducated and uninformed opinion of the poster.

If you want to close madresshas then bring the social and education reform that can replace madressah education.

For a fact, madressah system in Pakistan provides free boarding and education facilities to hundred of thousands of children. These children come from impoverished classes. Their families cant afford sending them to schools so they send their kids for free education to madressah. Your idea of closing them will deprive education to thse kids. We can question the quality of education but do suggest a universal school system that can not only give these children quality education but also boarding facilities.

Sitting in your living and painting everyone with a broad brush of extremism is a very affordable luxury. Doing something is quite difficult.

Also, this extremism is not just from madressah or a particular class. Extremism is mindset that transcends class boundaries. There are extremists of equal measure in the so called 'liberal' class of Pakistan. Extremism is forcing your thought and idea on someone and detesting their way of life to be not in consonance with your thoughts or beliefs. We all exercise extremism in one form or another.

 

[JonAsad]

Pakistan should change the name *Madrassah* to something more acceptable to burger bachas growing up-

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Very uneducated and uninformed opinion of the poster.

If you want to close madresshas then bring the social and education reform that can replace madressah education.

For a fact, madressah system in Pakistan provides free boarding and education facilities to hundred of thousands of children. These children come from impoverished classes. Their families cant afford sending them to schools so they send their kids for free education to madressah. Your idea of closing them will deprive education to thse kids. We can question the quality of education but do suggest a universal school system that can not only give these children quality education but also boarding facilities.

Sitting in your living and painting everyone with a broad brush of extremism is a very affordable luxury. Doing something is quite difficult.

Also, this extremism is not just from madressah or a particular class. Extremism is mindset that transcends class boundaries. There are extremists of equal measure in the so called 'liberal' class of Pakistan. Extremism is forcing your thought and idea on someone and detesting their way of life to be not in consonance with your thoughts or beliefs. We all exercise extremism in one form or another.

Very well put! How many people on here funded and orphan or educated them? How many people built a well, or a SCHOOL? Talk is cheap, like the government that steals our money.

Like I said, the day the government pays for the Madaris, the Ulama will listen! Trust me when I say this, coming from a sufi background, talk all you like, but nothing will happen! What right does someone have to tell us what we can and cannot do when they have no stake in it? Do you or the government pay for the Madaris? NO!

This has little to do with Madaris, but more to do with the ENSLAVED. Who is telling you to live in our country? Most on here, are not in Pakistan. So stay there where you're humiliated and have NO self-resoect like the Sister on the plane incident!

We are Muslim and PROUD of it! Pakistan ZINDABAD!

P.S Tell kids in the USA to stop going on shooting rampages in schools! First go and tell them to change their education system.

Pakistan should change the name *Madrassah* to something more acceptable to burger bachas growing up-

Madrasah means school in Arabic, JON!

 

[Jaanbaz]

there no madrassas in UK, EU, and US then how come people are being redicalized there

There are hundreds of ''faith schools'' belonging to all religions in UK, problem being that some Muslim faith schools are being taken over and funded by Saudi and Qatar money. Brelvi mosques have been taken over by Wahabis, in my local area half of Mirpuri population have been converted to Wahabi sect.