The NewYork Times: ‘If We Kill You, Nothing Will Happen’: How Delhi’s Police Turned Against Muslims

[Naofumi]

Sadly, to a great extent, the Indian Muslims are oppressing and ghettoizing themselves.

That maybe true but the religiosity is decreasing contrary to your statement. And the ghettoization can't stop without significant insurance by the state for at least 50 years - few wants to risk their lives and businesses.

The thing to be said here is that - Social Mobility is decreasing generation by generation. Muslim community is excluded from the system which can be blamed both on the regressive organisations like All India Muslim Personal Law Board and the government itself.

@jamahir Have you talked to some Muslims who refuse to be a part of the "system" and heard their logic?

The general perception here in the North is that the system is designed to exclude Muslims, so attempts are futile. Of course, some it is utter rubbish but some of it have post-1947 historical origins.

I read a detailed report somewhere a long time ago, I can't find it now. Meanwhile here is another one https://studies.aljazeera.net/en/re...usion-political-populism-161130100346203.html

 

[-=virus=-]

Paida chutiya hue the ya koi course kara hai?

Get used to it, kid.

Modi/Shah are not going anywhere for a good long while, this is just the beginning, population regulation and UCC are coming soon, save your energy for those protests.

word of advice, don't riot and jihad.

 

[Naofumi]

Get used to it, kid.

Matlab maan liya chutiya ho. Ok.

 

[hussain0216]

nice fearporn lol

but let's play anyway

Ok, so 250 million.. roughly half of them are women, some of them are kids, others being elderly or compromised in another way. They will not make the fighting grade.

Of the remainder, all 100% of them would not take to arms or be inclined to join the jihad. A lot will defect and fight for mother India too..

in the end you're left with significant enough, but significantly less in numbers than from where we started.. 250 million.

but here's the knock out blow, in case you're dealing with a true fascist genocidal state.. "we" will come hard at what remains of the original 250 million figure with all the might of the Hindu rashtra.

Hindutva mobs are nothing, what possibly could the poor jihadist Indian Muslims do when India goes for them with a combined arms scorched earth and then a seek and destroy strategy with our Su - 30s and air power, armour/mech/arty battalions, special forces, infantry, paramilitary, and police forces.... and "Hindutva mobs"

don't kid yourself, they got zero chance in a fight with India.

Why do you think I want to stop you

Civil war will break India

You can't have a united state with this much hatred amongst the people

Jinnah wali partition is the only way for India

 

[hussain0216]

What has certainly happened in recent times is increased activism by the Tableeghi Jamaatis. But this corresponds to the TJ movement's increased activism across the world.

Until 2014, there had been no special mass crackdown on Muslims here, except for things like the Gujarat riots in 2002. The Bombay riots of 1992-1993 are too distant a memory. Yes, I am taking into account the mob lynchings during and after 2014, and the recent Delhi riots.

Sadly, to a great extent, the Indian Muslims are oppressing and ghettoizing themselves.

Those dudes are right

Only a ghettoisation of Indian Muslims will give you localities which you can protect, where you can create your own cultural, religious economic zones

 

[R Wing]

LoL aren’t Pakistanis and Muslims predicting their doomsday ever since Modi came to power in 2014. Don’t live scared folks, we won’t hurt you, promise.

what happened in Delhi and what is this article talking about? just curious.

 

[hussain0216]

not going to happen, we'll cauterize a wound if we have to.

no more amputations

It's not really your choice

Your live in a poisoned toxic state

Where mistrust, open hatred, desire to murder are rampant feelings amongst the populace who are all supposed to be one nationality

Ontop of this you are a 1.4 billion overpopulated slum heading towards 1.5 billion soon enough

When your concentration should be on how to create a cohesive economic strategy, you are busy trying to break your country


NO WAY can any state survive this situation
No way can you trap hundreds of millions of minorities or even non bakht Hindus in a toxic state


India will break because your breaking it

LoL aren’t Pakistanis and Muslims predicting their doomsday ever since Modi came to power in 2014. Don’t live scared folks, we won’t hurt you, promise.

Buddy

WE WERE RIGHT

look around you

Look at the poison in India

The hatred in India

The toxicity in India

Modi achieved in India what Jinnah foretold 70 years ago

 

[SIPRA]

It's not really your choice

Elite Hindu intellectuals and leaders are doing it, since about 1870s. They act in arrogance and false sense of supremacy; but then are not ready to accept the inadvertent and natural consequences of their actions. Establishment of Pakistan was one such result of their actions.

 

[-=virus=-]

It's not really your choice

Your live in a poisoned toxic state

No, it's actually a really nice place, the opposite of what you believe it to be.

If you have a UK passport, come visit, once this bug mania is gone of course. We're locked out for a month anyway.

Where mistrust, open hatred, desire to murder are rampant feelings amongst the populace who are all supposed to be one nationality

only among small isolated pockets of extremists, and it runs both ways.

There are faultlines, but not exploitable yet, not to the extend you lot over the fence and certain local political interest groups imagine anyway. Don't let that stop you from keeping dreaming, though.

Ontop of this you are a 1.4 billion overpopulated slum heading towards 1.5 billion soon enough

When your concentration should be on how to create a cohesive economic strategy, you are busy trying to break your country


NO WAY can any state survive this situation
No way can you trap hundreds of millions of minorities or even non bakht Hindus in a toxic state

Glad you bought that up.

The Population Regulation thing will fix it, and help the poor and the economy at large.

Misguided sections of minorities will wake up and see the false narrative for what it is sooner or later.

India will break because your breaking it

"you're"

 

[hussain0216]

No, it's actually a really nice place, the opposite of what you believe it to be.

If you have a UK passport, come visit, once this bug mania is gone of course. We're locked out for a month anyway.


only among small isolated pockets of extremists, and it runs both ways.

There are faultlines, but not exploitable yet, not to the extend you lot over the fence and certain local political interest groups imagine anyway. Don't let that stop you from keeping dreaming, though.


Glad you bought that up.

The Population Regulation thing will fix it, and help the poor and the economy at large.

Misguided sections of minorities will wake up and see the false narrative for what it is sooner or later.


"you're"

Your in denial

Your basic counter is that all the hatred and poison isn't as bad as it seems

When you yourself have threatened genocide if Muslims seek equality, protection and azaadi


You can help a blind man but you can't help a man pretending to be blind


The poison is spreading in India and there is nothing anyone can do to stop the spread because Indians are not trying to stop it

 

[TNT]

What has certainly happened in recent times is increased activism by the Tableeghi Jamaatis. But this corresponds to the TJ movement's increased activism across the world.

Until 2014, there had been no special mass crackdown on Muslims here, except for things like the Gujarat riots in 2002. The Bombay riots of 1992-1993 are too distant a memory. Yes, I am taking into account the mob lynchings during and after 2014, and the recent Delhi riots.

Sadly, to a great extent, the Indian Muslims are oppressing and ghettoizing themselves.

Why dnt u ppl keep arms? We live in a muslim country and every house have few AKs and 9mms. Believe me if u ppl keep arms and if those mobs come for u, shoot a few and they would think a hundred times before trying.

 

[aryadravida]

After partition there was no pro-Muslim party left in India (except some later formed regional ones). Even if it had formed it would be seen very communal like leftover of Muslim League. Muslims voted for Congress, SP, BSP, RJD etc. They voted for :-

1) Keep BJP/Sangh out of power.

2) For some new ideas which they thought would help their socio-economic status - like Subaltern politics (Muslim-Bahujan movement).

It was a socio-historical development. According to the popular narrative, these same people voted and supported Pakistan. Here is an (unconfirmed) quote by first Dy. PM of India
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Also, it's an unfair comparison - the entire country is homogenous in case of Afghanistan whereas IM are thinly spread over India, with different concentrations being faraway from each other.

Brother do you realise your posts maybe followed or traced by Indian intelligence dept?be careful with your words...you will fall in danger if you say something that is propak and anti india

 

[Naofumi]

Brother do you realise your posts maybe followed or traced by Indian intelligence dept?be careful with your words...you will fall in danger if you say something that is propak and anti india

I did not said anything pro-pak or anti-India, I don't know why it seems so?

I was stating historical development and evolution of Indian Muslims. Is that pro-Pakistan, knowing the history of subcontinent? Is it pro-Pakistan to talk about 1947 and aftermath?

 

[Diggy]

Buddy

WE WERE RIGHT

look around you

Look at the poison in India

The hatred in India

The toxicity in India

Modi achieved in India what Jinnah foretold 70 years ago

Modi also achieved Jinnahs worst nightmare, he abrogated 370 and annexed your jugular vein(Kashmir). Jinnah must be turning in his grave after that.

what happened in Delhi and what is this article talking about? just curious.

Read it

 

[hussain0216]

Modi also achieved Jinnahs worst nightmare, he abrogated 370 and annexed your jugular vein(Kashmir). Jinnah must be turning in his grave after that.

Kashmiri hate India more than ever, so much so India can't even end it's lockdown, release Kashmirs political leaders, or even give full internet access beyond 2g and controlled website

This is proving Jinnah RIGHT

Modi and hindutva are bigger weapons for Pakistan then nuclear warheads