The making of the Kargil disaster Excerpts from Nasim Zehra's book, 'From Kargil To The Coup: Events

[cloud4000]

It was close.
Soldiers who participated in Kargil states that they were out of bullets, otherwise Indian army would be a Sikh less army today.
If Musharraf had existed few more years, we would learn about Indian army only in history books.
Even today, Dehli pee in their dhotis, when they think of Kargil.

Musharraf had more balls than brains, but even he wasn’t as delusional as you are. Whole point of occupying Kargil was to force India to the negotiating table, but Musharraf miscalculated India’s response. And the rest is history, as they say.

I don’t know who’s peeing their dhotis, but for Pakistan Kargil was a strategic failure: it paid a heavily for achieving absolutely nothing.

 

[Aasimkhan]

Musharraf had more balls than brains, but even he wasn’t as delusional as you are. Whole point of occupying Kargil was to force India to the negotiating table, but Musharraf miscalculated India’s response. And the rest is history, as they say.

I don’t know who’s peeing their dhotis, but for Pakistan Kargil was a strategic failure: it paid a heavily for achieving absolutely nothing.

Tactically in terms of life Indian casualties were 3 to 4 times more than Pakistans. Strategically it was a stalemate

There is not remedy for a slave mentality! Enjoy it as long as you can.

There is not remedy for a slave mentality! Enjoy it as long as you can.

still

Still assume a lot!


That guy still believes Pakistan won in 1971! What weed they infused you with?

I would not argue with a key board soldier who fights from the comfort of his drawing room

 

[BATMAN]

India’s response.

India's response was exactly as expected as always...... Run to Uncle SAm.

Whole point of occupying Kargil was to force India to the negotiating table

Whatever the point was, it's part of your army's curriculum now.
Ever since, India has spent much more on it's defense and specially building tunnels and alternate supply routes in Kashmir.
Musharraf's big balls would continue to haunt Indian army for generations to come.

Strategically it was a stalemate

As per Musharraf's interviews, Pakistan continue to occupy various peaks, even after cease fire at battle zone.

 

[Corona]

Did anyone read the book? Is it worth buying?

 

[Storm Force]

India's response was exactly as expected as always...... Run to Uncle SAm.


Whatever the point was, it's part of your army's curriculum now.
Ever since, India has spent much more on it's defense and specially building tunnels and alternate supply routes in Kashmir.
Musharraf's big balls would continue to haunt Indian army for generations to come.



As per Musharraf's interviews, Pakistan continue to occupy various peaks, even after cease fire at battle zone.

Your blowing a lot of hot air mate.

The first thing Foolish people like Mushraff and his cronies should understand that their is no MILITARY solution against a enemy that has 7 to 8 times your RESOURCES and national power.

ultimately You will lose every time EVENTUALLY.

these cronies caused the slaughter of hundreds of brave Pakistani soldiers and left theor bodies to wrot on indian soil

EASY decision for mushraff …….. ITS not his SON OR BROTHER Or NEPHEW

 

[BATMAN]

The first thing Foolish people like Mushraff

Only hypocrite or Indians hate Musharraf.

his cronies should understand that their is no MILITARY solution against a enemy that has 7 to 8 times your RESOURCES and national power.

Kargil operation, was close to solution for ever. If US didn't jumped in.
If your army had balls... try not to involve US next time.

ultimately You will lose every time EVENTUALLY.

If we were loosing why you went running to US? By than you were in Russian camp. Why didn't you go to Russia than?

these cronies caused the slaughter of hundreds of brave Pakistani soldiers and left theor bodies to wrot on indian soil

Indian's should learn to respect dead bodies of their own soldiers.
Didn't India refused accept Nachikita as India!
When we had dead bodies, our soldiers were out of ammunition and supplies, which shouldn't have happened.

EASY decision for mushraff …….. ITS not his SON OR BROTHER Or NEPHEW

Your argument reflects fear. You are trying to win support in Pakistan in favor of no war?
Every one is free to choose his /her profession.
Being a soldier in Islam is the noblest of all professions, those who lay their lives fighting India will always be remembered.

Last but not least, my message to those to be the rats of hell.... Whatever followed Musharraf's resignation is on their hands.

 

[BHarwana]

LOL Pakistan never lost the Kargil war because that war never ended the battle of Kargil will end in 2018. The GE 2018 will decide that Pakistan wins or India wins Kargil lol.

 

[jamal18]

The entire write-up doesn't even mention the word 'nuclear' which was probably the backbone of the Kargil operation. Musharaf probably though India won't dare counterattack or US/international community won't let a war happen between nuclear armed adversaries.

Interestingly, I saw an interview of Musharaf when he said that there was a difference between detonating a nuclear weapon as a test, and having a deployable weapon by the military.

 

[HariPrasad]

But Musharraf said that he hold India from collar. Many people in Pakistan still believe that they won Kargil like 65 & 71.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Bhagorrra Mushraaf..

 

[Hamza913]

A very interesting read..

A depressingly familiar picture of ego, opportunism and ambition that has launched many losing battles.

Mushy was over eager and naive, he saw a chance for glory - regardless of the cost to his country and his soldiers - as they say, fools rush in where angels dare to tread.

I believe history will show that his entire leadership of Pak was a result of self serving, converging interests of the competing powers (within and outside of Pakistan) nothing to do with his personal characteristics.

Asalamu Alaikum

In all fairness, the operation was by no means a failure.

We took Point 5353, which even the Hindustani military admits give us complete domination over the area.

Although, Musharraf should have gotten support from other members of the military so that all of Kargil could have been taken, whilst keeping the stupid government out of the loop so it could be retained. However, one does wonder whether the rest of the military would have been spineless like Nawaz.

But none the less, victory was achieved.

It had been almost 30 years since 1971 and a newer generation didn't have the same animosity toward Pakistan. Kargil changed that.

Good, we don't want to be at peace with you unless your aggression towards Islam and Muslims ceases. Until then, we will always wage war against you.

The truth is Kargil was a huge failure for pakistan on all fronts.

Is that why we still hold Point 5353 (which your own military admits gives us complete domination over the area)?

Our losses we're around 700

Asalamu Alaikum

They were actually half of that figure (roughly 350).

Wow.. you know numbers.
Did you count those bodies too who left behind??

We couldn't recover some bodies, that happens in war. There are still the bodies of American soldiers in North Korea.

We counted all troops that died AFAIK.

Also, you are still yet to prove your claim of the numbers of these missing bodies being significantly greater than usual.

I counted my bullets, didn't I? I am an eye witness. First hand account is the most reliable and authentic one


Indian leadership was equally miserable, most of the Sikh soldiers were made to drink heavily before starting the assault, many died wave after wave, we shot and killed till the ammo lasted, hills were lettered with dead Indian bodies. What a waste

Mashallah, I didn't know I was speaking with a Mujahid. May Allah (The Most Gracious and The Most Merciful) reward you.

I know someone else who came back from Kargil too. He also described the lopsided casualties on his front, but complained how stupid the endeavour was.

Musharaf probably though India won't dare counterattack or US/international community won't let a war happen between nuclear armed adversaries.

And he was right.

Hindustan didn't dare to escalate things, it just sat there and took it, relying on diplomacy to pressure Pakistan to retreat, and it didn't even work. We still hold Point 5353 which the Hindustani military admits gives Pakistan complete domination over the area.

 

[Jackdaws]

Asalamu Alaikum

In all fairness, the operation was by no means a failure.

We took Point 5353, which even the Hindustani military admits give us complete domination over the area.

Although, Musharraf should have gotten support from other members of the military so that all of Kargil could have been taken, whilst keeping the stupid government out of the loop so it could be retained. However, one does wonder whether the rest of the military would have been spineless like Nawaz.

But none the less, victory was achieved.



Good, we don't want to be at peace with you unless your aggression towards Islam and Muslims ceases. Until then, we will always wage war against you.



Is that why we still hold Point 5353 (which your own military admits gives us complete domination over the area)?



Asalamu Alaikum

They were actually half of that figure (roughly 350).



We couldn't recover some bodies, that happens in war. There are still the bodies of American soldiers in North Korea.

We counted all troops that died AFAIK.

Also, you are still yet to prove your claim of the numbers of these missing bodies being significantly greater than usual.



Mashallah, I didn't know I was speaking with a Mujahid. May Allah (The Most Gracious and The Most Merciful) reward you.

I know someone else who came back from Kargil too. He also described the lopsided casualties on his front, but complained how stupid the endeavour was.



And he was right.

Hindustan didn't dare to escalate things, it just sat there and took it, relying on diplomacy to pressure Pakistan to retreat, and it didn't even work. We still hold Point 5353 which the Hindustani military admits gives Pakistan complete domination over the area.

Muslims and Islam? Utter nonsense. More Muslims have been killed in the name of religion in Pakistan than in India. No one has appointed your country as the spokesperson for Muslims or for Islam. So save the crocodile tears.

 

[Hamza913]

More Muslims have been killed in the name of religion in Pakistan than in India. No one has appointed your country as the spokesperson for Muslims or for Islam. So save the crocodile tears.

Only Khariji terrorists who we are eradicating as we speak, where as Hindustan openly supports the elements within itself that act against Islam and Muslims.

We don't need to be appointed for that, every practising Muslim despises you for what you have done and continue to do to us, we will continue to fight against you until Qiyamah if need be since nobody else will (other than the brave Mujahids in Kashmir).

 

[Jackdaws]

Only Khariji terrorists who we are eradicating as we speak, where as Hindustan openly supports the elements within itself that act against Islam and Muslims.

We don't need to be appointed for that, every practising Muslim despises you for what you have done and continue to do to us, we will continue to fight against you until Qiyamah if need be since nobody else will (other than the brave Mujahids in Kashmir).

Again, simply because you say doesn't make it true. An average Muslim is far safer in India than he is in Pakistan. Numbers back that up - how many people killed in the name of religion in both countries?

You can fight us if you want. It's not done you much good so far. Best of luck for the future.

 

[Aasimkhan]

Muslims and Islam? Utter nonsense. More Muslims have been killed in the name of religion in Pakistan than in India. No one has appointed your country as the spokesperson for Muslims or for Islam. So save the crocodile tears.

We are the only country in the w

Muslims and Islam? Utter nonsense. More Muslims have been killed in the name of religion in Pakistan than in India. No one has appointed your country as the spokesperson for Muslims or for Islam. So save the crocodile tears.

We are the only country in the world made in the name of Islam, Islam is our life, Islam is our way of life and you are no one to comment on it.

Muslims and Islam? Utter nonsense. More Muslims have been killed in the name of religion in Pakistan than in India. No one has appointed your country as the spokesperson for Muslims or for Islam. So save the crocodile tears.

We are the only country in the world made in the name of Islam, Islam is our life, Islam is our way of life and you are no one to comment on it.

Again, simply because you say doesn't make it true. An average Muslim is far safer in India than he is in Pakistan. Numbers back that up - how many people killed in the name of religion in both countries?

You can fight us if you want. It's not done you much good so far. Best of luck for the future.

Read the history of last 5000 years, everytime u have been attacked from west, everytime u have been destroyed, everytime westerns have benefited, do you know why the mountain range of Hindu Kush got it's name?