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The lasting lesson of 1962

Yes, it sure was a surprise, that even after being told "Hindi Chini bhai bhai" (in an Indian language) by Nehru... he still backstabbed us in 1959 by hosting our largest separatist group, then again in 1962 with the Forward Policy.

Both of which led to the Sino-Indian War.

Wall Street Journal - Panorama: Kissinger’s China, India’s Neighbor



Now don't tell me the Wall Street Journal is Chinese propaganda.

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agree with you on that wish he didn.
and even today its bad of India to host an exile tibetan govt. and Dalai Lama.
we want hafeez sayed from pak yet we encourage this towards China.

wish Indian - Chinese friendship grew once again

Indeed India-China Trade is huge and it's increasing.
 
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Martian is trying to make another "compendium of China's military excellence" thread:rofl:


Typical chinese braggarts.:rolleyes:
 
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It is very interesting to read the comment posted by indian, they don't want to learn from the war, to make their mouth happy, they like to argue with chinese. In the current history I don't find that indian are more capable than chinese. Forget the history, even now I don't think indian change too much to can defeat PLA. Yes they spend too much money on modernization of military, but they inport most of main weapon from other country, they get the more advanced weapon than china from alien, but they don't learn anything from them or less. They just buy the advanced weapon, they don't care the troubles which will be insulted in by too many different weapon, they mock chinese 'copy', but they also can't prove their creativeness, even more, a simple project could take more than 30 years, If such project occured in china, the project will stop, the responsible will sacked. All these can reflect indian military industry is inpotent. And they think if they buy the advanced from western and russian, they can easily improve their own weapon, they ignore or neglect too much, they mock chinese cheap good, but they use it, and they can't find a good way to feed their poor people. They think revere engineering is easily, stealing military technology is ashame, they don't kown or don't want to accept that many other country did this, and all this is ability. What ever, I don't care indian military industry, they want to leap to the usa level by one step, they look down on the worker , just want to be officer, wish are great, but you live in the real life, the more you buy weapon from other country, the happier i am. I don't want to boast our weapon it is not more advanced than you, what i am happy is our PLA more mature than you, especially our commander. You said we win because we give you a sudden attack, funny, in the war, no excuse, if a country are busy to find the excurse for their failure in the war, this can prove they don't known how to fight in the war. I like you global tender for weapon, I like your complain about what PLA do in the disputed place, I like you go your way, just watching, the gap between china and india in military, not only army, but also military industry, will wider. Enjoy your alien advanced weapon. If you can't make the best of your advantage, I don't care what ever you have. Even F22 given to you, you can't make it in 20 years, First you don't have the equipment tha make it. Advanced digital letha, material, softwave etc. If you want creat you own, do it, I will surprise that you creat a 'F22' in 30 years.
 
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Do you see this?
Global Firepower - 2011 World Military Strength Ranking

In 1962, india's ranking here was about 20

LOL, that is just some blog site. It has no actual meaning in the real world. :lol: Try checking the actual military budgets instead.

In 1962, China and India were about the same level in terms of economy and military, in fact India likely had a higher GDP per capita than us back then.

Today though, China's economy is four times larger than India's economy, with commensurate military spending. China has never been in a stronger position vis-a-vis India than it is today, not since the founding of the PRC.

China in 1962 had just come out of the worst famine in Chinese history, and had also just fought a war with the superpower USA (Korean war) and also alienated the USSR in the Sino-Soviet split. We were at possibly the weakest moment in our history.
 
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India also recognized Bangladesh as a part of pakistan till 1970

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Do you see this?
Global Firepower - 2011 World Military Strength Ranking

In 1962, india's ranking here was about 20

India gonna try a 1971 on us :) practical suicide maybe we should look into Liberation of Kashmir ?:azn: East Pakistan was cornered by India by 3 sides however the situation is very Different Kashmir is looking good for a Chinese Liberation :D
 
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India gonna try a 1971 on us :) practical suicide maybe we should look into Liberation of Kashmir ?:azn: East Pakistan was cornered by India by 3 sides however the situation is very Different Kashmir is looking good for a Chinese Liberation :D

practical suicide for china
 
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practical suicide for china

The difference is getting into Tibet is harder then getting out. however we can always invite Kashmir Insurgents to settle in Tibet and Aksai Chin and train and regroup also the current Indian Government is weak. Suicide unlikely. However India getting Into Tibet will be suicide, for us Kashmir is alot easier however we have no interest in it :whistle:
 
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The difference is getting into Tibet is harder then getting out. however we can always invite Kashmir Insurgents to settle in Tibet and Aksai Chin and train and regroup also the current Indian Government is weak. Suicide unlikely. However India getting Into Tibet will be suicide, for us Kashmir is alot easier however we have no interest in it :whistle:

suicide very likely. The present govt. is not weak but practical. A war will hurt our economy and so will yours plus it will invite USA if any confrontations b/w us and also in the words of our neighbour(west) we have nuclear bombs:lol:

many Indian here are anti-congress and pro BJP hence they make you feel that congress is weak.
when it comes to war there is this much only a govt. can do and the rest is in the hands of the defence force

for us Kashmir is alot easier however we have no interest in it - more than welcome to. Though i don't like it but still we do host and support tibetians and tibet moment right!:whistle:
 
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LOL, that is just some blog site. It has no actual meaning in the real world. :lol: Try checking the actual military budgets instead.

In 1962, China and India were about the same level in terms of economy and military, in fact India likely had a higher GDP per capita than us back then.

Today though, China's economy is four times larger than India's economy, with commensurate military spending. China has never been in a stronger position vis-a-vis India than it is today, not since the founding of the PRC.

China in 1962 had just come out of the worst famine in Chinese history, and had also just fought a war with the superpower USA (Korean war) and also alienated the USSR in the Sino-Soviet split. We were at possibly the weakest moment in our history.

This "blog" site knows a lot more about military than all the chinese members here put together.

And yes India had a higher GDP and higher GDP per capita back then because while china was fighting wars and gaining experiance, nehru was building a country. In 1962 the whole thing changed, India started becoming a military power.

This is what a pakistani analyst had to say

Till 1965 Pakistan Army keeping in view its equipment and training was relatively superior to the Indian Army. India under Nehru was a peaceful country but the Sino-Indian Conflict of 1962 transformed the whole scenario. Thus while Indian Army had by and large registered no major expansion since 1947 after 1962 the Indians embarked on a highly ambitious expansion programme.

Also, most of chinese budget goes to developing military tech, as compared to india which has access to western TOT. While this is a path to self sufficiency and pride, its a labourous, time consuming and expensive process
 
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suicide very likely. The present govt. is not weak but practical. A war will hurt our economy and so will yours plus it will invite USA if any confrontations b/w us and also in the words of our neighbour(west) we have nuclear bombs:lol:

many Indian here are anti-congress and pro BJP hence they make you feel that congress is weak.
when it comes to war there is this much only a govt. can do and the rest is in the hands of the defence force

You tried to Invite USA back in 1962 yet it failed US coming to save India unlikely. your going to use Nuclear weapons ? however if repetition is needed for India to learn then it will have to be that.
 
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This "blog" site knows a lot more about military than all the chinese members here put together.

And yes India had a higher GDP and higher GDP per capita back then because while china was fighting wars and gaining experiance, nehru was building a country. In 1962 the whole thing changed, India started becoming a military power.

This is what a pakistani analyst had to say



Also, most of chinese budget goes to developing military tech, as compared to india which has access to western TOT. While this is a path to self sufficiency and pride, its a labourous, time consuming and expensive process

Our best forces were near the border with the USSR and Korean Border. our Southern forces were lacking and probably the worst yet managed to defeat you.
 
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You tried to Invite USA back in 1962 yet it failed US coming to save India unlikely.
your going to use Nuclear weapons ? however if repetition is needed for India to learn then it will have to be that.

maybe we failed to invite usa in 1962 but look around you now. USA is literaly creating a block around you and is worried about your rise so today is different from yesterday. We will not use nuke first but a war with India cannot be possible as being nuclear power both face the risk of MAD.

and for repitition we are more than pleased to teach you this time:tup:
 
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maybe we failed to invite usa in 1962 but look around you now. USA is literaly creating a block around you and is worried about your rise so today is different from yesterday. We will not use nuke first but a war with India cannot be possible as being nuclear power both face the risk of MAD.

and for repitition we are more than pleased to teach you this time:tup:

with who ? Australia ? Philippines ? Vietnam they pose no threat to us. Unlikely it's us who will be teaching the lesson again until it will be perfected.
 
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