The Khalistan Diaries

[Prometheus]

Kashmir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Total Area of Kashmir: Indian administered Kashmir + Pakistani administered Kashmir + China administered Kashmir (today's present situation)

Total Area of Kashmir: 101,338 + 85,846 + 37,555 = 224,739 km^2

Now don't forget that Pakistan gave China 5,800 km^2 of the Shaksam valley that it won from India.

User:Cityvalyu/Pakistan occupied Kashmir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So effectively, the area that Pakistan won from India was: 85,846 + 5800 = 91646 km^2

Territory Pakistan won: 91,646/224,739 = 41% (not far off from my estimate of 45%)

Territory India won: 101,338/224,739 = 45%

Plz stay on topic.
We are discussiong a very serious topic

 

[foxbat]

Kashmir is fine, but lets talk more about UNPO, Sindh, Balochistan and GilGit Baltistan

Also the Indian Kashmir doesnt seem to be figuring here

 

[53fd]

Kashmir is fine, but lets talk more about UNPO, Sindh, Balochistan and GilGit Baltistan

Also the Indian Kashmir doesnt seem to be figuring here

It's funny that the entire Pakistani nation has 4 separatist movements, while there are more than 120 all across India. One would think they should be accounted on this UNPO website as well. Why hasn't Kashmir been accounted for on this website? Seems fishy, hmmm...

 

[Prometheus]

It's funny that the entire Pakistani nation has 4 separatist movements, while there are more than 120 all across India. One would think they should be accounted on this UNPO website as well. Why hasn't Kashmir been accounted for on this website? Seems fishy, hmmm...

Come close .....i will tell you a secret.....

It was started by Dalai lama

Sssshhhhh .....dont tell any one

 

[notsuperstitious]

It's funny that the entire Pakistani nation has 4 separatist movements, while there are more than 120 all across India. One would think they should be accounted on this UNPO website as well. Why hasn't Kashmir been accounted for on this website? Seems fishy, hmmm...

You mean the post 1971 entire Pakistan, then you are right. Once successful, they are no more separatist movements.

Also when unsuccessful, the world loses interest, thats why no Indian ones

120 movements LOL victims of their own propaganda, sad.

 

[foxbat]

It's funny that the entire Pakistani nation has 4 separatist movements, while there are more than 120 all across India. One would think they should be accounted on this UNPO website as well. Why hasn't Kashmir been accounted for on this website? Seems fishy, hmmm...

Heh Heh.. Goes to show that not everyone in the world looks at India with the same prism used by Pakistan...

 

[KS]

Now don't forget that Pakistan gave China 5,800 km^2 of the Shaksam valley that it won from India.

So effectively, the area that Pakistan won from India was: 85,846 + 5800 = 91646 km^2

You aint fooling anybody smarty pants by counting Shaksgam Valley twice. Think about it.

So again its 85846/224739 * 100 =~ 38%.

It's funny that the entire Pakistani nation[/B] has 4 separatist movements, while there are more than 120 all across India[/B]. One would think they should be accounted on this UNPO website as well. Why hasn't Kashmir been accounted for on this website? Seems fishy, hmmm...

RAW-CIA-MOSSAD propaganda to deceive the innocent Pakistani.

BTW as I said those seem to be doing heck of job than those 130 movements that are mostly impotent.

 

[53fd]

You mean the post 1971 entire Pakistan, then you are right. Once successful, they are no more separatist movements.

Also when unsuccessful, the world loses interest, thats why no Indian ones

120 movements LOL victims of their own propaganda, sad.

Sorry I was a bit off, it's 150+ insurgencies in India, not including the Maoists of course.

These are all the insurgencies inside India:

Assam:

1. United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA)
2. National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB)
3. United People's Democratic Solidarity (UPDS)
4. Kamtapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)
5. Bodo Liberation Tiger Force (BLTF)
6. Dima Halim Daogah (DHD)
7. Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)
8. Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)
9. Koch-Rajbongshi Liberation Organisation (KRLO)
10. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)
11. Karbi People's Front (KPF)
12. Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)
13. Bircha Commando Force (BCF)
14. Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)
15. Adivasi Security Force (ASF)
16. All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)
17. Gorkha Tiger Force (GTF)
18. Barak Valley Youth Liberation Front (BVYLF)
19. Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA)
20. United Liberation Front of Barak Valley
21. Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam (MULFA)
22. Muslim Security Council of Assam (MSCA)
23. United Liberation Militia of Assam (ULMA)
24. Islamic Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA)
25. Muslim Volunteer Force (MVF)
26. Muslim Liberation Army (MLA)
27. Muslim Security Force (MSF)
28. Islamic Sevak Sangh (ISS)
29. Islamic United Reformation Protest of India (IURPI)
30. United Muslim Liberation Front of Assam (UMLFA)
31. Revolutionary Muslim Commandos (RMC)
32. Muslim Tiger Force (MTF)
33. People’s United Liberation Front (PULF)
34. Adam Sena (AS)
35. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
36. Harkat-ul-Jehad

Jammu & Kashmir

37. Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO)
38. Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM)
39. Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA, presently known as Harkat-ul Mujahideen)
40. Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT)
41. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
42. Harkat-ul Mujahideen (HuM, previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar)
43. Al Badr
44. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen (JuM)
45. Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ)
46. Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami
47. Al Barq
48. Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen
49. Al Jehad
50. Jammu & Kashir National Liberation Army
51. People’s League
52. Muslim Janbaz Force
53. Kashmir Jehad Force
54. Al Jehad Force (combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir Jehad Force)
55. Al Umar Mujahideen
56. Mahaz-e-Azadi
57. Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba
58. Jammu & Kashmir Students Liberation Front
59. Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen
60. Islamic Students League
61. Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir
62. Tehrik-e-Nifaz-e-Fiqar Jafaria
63. Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters
64. Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami
65. Muslim Mujahideen
66. Al Mujahid Force
67. Tehrik-e-Jehad
68. Islami Inquilabi Mahaz
69. Mutahida Jehad Council (MJC)
70. Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF)
71. All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC)
72. Dukhtaran-e-Millat (DeM)

Manipur:

73. United National Liberation Front (UNLF)
74. People’s Liberation Army (PLA)
75. People’s Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
76. The above mentioned three groups now operate from a unified platform, the Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
77. Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
78. Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL)
79. Manipur Liberation Tiger Army (MLTA)
80. Iripak Kanba Lup (IKL)
81. People’s Republican Army (PRA)
82. Kangleipak Kanba Kanglup (KKK)
83. Kangleipak Liberation Organisation (KLO)
84. Revolutionary Joint Committee (RJC)
85. National Socialist Council of Nagaland -- Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)
86. People’s United Liberation Front (PULF)
87. North East Minority Front (NEMF)
88. Islamic National Front (INF)
89. Islamic Revolutionary Front (IRF)
90. United Islamic Liberation Army (UILA)
91. United Islamic Revolutionary Army (UIRA)
92. Kuki National Front (KNF)
93. Kuki National Army (KNA)
94. Kuki Revolutionary Army (KRA)
95. Kuki National Organisation (KNO)
96. Kuki Independent Army (KIA)
97. Kuki Defence Force (KDF)
98. Kuki International Force (KIF)
99/ Kuki National Volunteers (KNV)
100. Kuki Liberation Front (KLF)
101. Kuki Security Force (KSF)
102. Kuki Liberation Army (KLA)
103. Kuki Revolutionary Front (KRF)
104. United Kuki Liberation Front (UKLF)
105. Hmar People’s Convention (HPC)
106. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)
107. Hmar Revolutionary Front (HRF)
108. Zomi Revolutionary Army (ZRA)
109. Zomi Revolutionary Volunteers (ZRV)
110. Indigenous People's Revolutionary Alliance(IRPA)
111. Kom Rem People's Convention (KRPC)
112. Chin Kuki Revolutionary Front (CKRF)

Meghalaya:

113. Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
114. Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC)
115. People’s Liberation Front of Meghalaya (PLF-M)
116. Hajong United Liberation Army (HULA)

Nagaland:

117. National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Isak-Muivah) – NSCN(IM)
118. National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang) – NSCN (K)
119. Naga National Council (Adino) – NNC (Adino)

Tripura:

120. National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)
121. All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
122. Tripura Liberation Organisation Front (TLOF)
123. United Bengali Liberation Front (UBLF)
124. Tripura Tribal Volunteer Force (TTVF)
125. Tripura Armed Tribal Commando Force (TATCF)
126. Tripura Tribal Democratic Force (TTDF)
127. Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)
128. Tripura Liberation Force (TLF)
129. Tripura Defence Force (TDF)
130. All Tripura Volunteer Force (ATVF)
131. Tribal Commando Force (TCF)
132. Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)
133. All Tripura Bharat Suraksha Force (ATBSF)
134. Tripura Tribal Action Committee Force (TTACF)
135. Socialist Democratic Front of Tripura (SDFT)
136. All Tripura National Force (ATNF)
137. Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)
138. Tiger Commando Force (TCF)
139. Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)
140. Tripura Rajya Raksha Bahini (TRRB)
141. Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)
142. Tripura National Democratic Tribal Force (TNDTF)
143. National Militia of Tripura (NMT)
144. All Tripura Bengali Regiment (ATBR)
145. Bangla Mukti Sena (BMS)
146. All Tripura Liberation Organisation (ATLO)
147. Tripura National Army (TNA)
148. Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)
149. Borok National Council of Tripura (BNCT)

Mizoram
150. Bru National Liberation Front
151. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)

Arunachal Pradesh
152. Arunachal Dragon Force (ADF)

Left-wing Extremist groups (non-separatist insurgencies)

Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist)
People's War Group
Maoist Communist Centre
People's Guerrilla Army
Communist Party of India (Marxist Leninist) Janashakti
Tritiya Prastuti Committee (TPC)

Other Extremist Groups: (non-separatist insurgencies)
Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES)
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
Deendar Anjuman
Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)
Asif Reza Commando Force
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Kamatapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)

 

[53fd]

You aint fooling anybody smarty pants by counting Shaksgam Valley twice. Think about it.

So again its 85846/224739 * 100 =~ 38%.

Who's including it twice? Pakistan today occupies 85,846 km^2 of the total Kashmir. This does not include the 5,800 km^2 of the Shaksam valley that it won from India, & gave to China.

Hence, the area Pakistan won from India was: 91,646/224739 = 41%

 

[toxic_pus]

...the Shaksam valley that it won from India, & gave to China.

Firstly, Shaksam Valley was not 'won' from India. It was part of independent Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir and Pakistan won it from them, in a blatant violation of Standstill Agreement with J&K and of course, several international laws.

Secondly, Pakistan considers J&K as 'disputed'. Which means, according to Pakistan, ownership hasn't yet been determined; means that Shaksam Valley is not Pakistan's property to hand over to a third party. Given Pakistan's stand is 'Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri, so let them decide', this whole episode reveals Pakistan's duplicity and of course, the moral vacuity of its stand.

You are actually calling your own country a double-crossing thug and trying desperately to convince yourself that it is a good thing. Carry on though. You have almost reached the epic heights of folly. A few more posts and you will be there.

 

[Khalistan Patriot]

 

[53fd]

Firstly, Shaksam Valley was not 'won' from India. It was part of independent Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir and Pakistan won it from them, in a blatant violation of Standstill Agreement with J&K and of course, several international laws.

Secondly, Pakistan considers J&K as 'disputed'. Which means, according to Pakistan, ownership hasn't yet been determined; means that Shaksam Valley is not Pakistan's property to hand over to a third party. Given Pakistan's stand is 'Kashmir belongs to Kashmiri, so let them decide', this whole episode reveals Pakistan's duplicity and of course, the moral vacuity of its stand.

You are actually calling your own country a double-crossing thug and trying desperately to convince yourself that it is a good thing. Carry on though. You have almost reached the epic heights of folly. A few more posts and you will be there.

Pakistan's stance is in line with the UN & international agencies that Kashmir is 'disputed territory', while India is against the UN conventions & calls it "an integral part of India".

 

[Vinod2070]

Who's including it twice? Pakistan today occupies 85,846 km^2 of the total Kashmir. This does not include the 5,800 km^2 of the Shaksam valley that it won from India, & gave to China.

Hence, the area Pakistan won from India was: 91,646/224739 = 41%

Pakistan won zero Km^2 from India!

India entered the state only after the accession. Before that it was the small army of the king protecting the state and Kashmiris against the tribal hordes.

After IA came, they ran in only one direction, showing their back.

Unfortunately Nehru went for the truce at that point against Patel's advice. Else there would be no Kashmir issue today and no Pak-China border.

 

[jayron]

Who's including it twice? Pakistan today occupies 85,846 km^2 of the total Kashmir. This does not include the 5,800 km^2 of the Shaksam valley that it won from India, & gave to China.

Hence, the area Pakistan won from India was: 91,646/224739 = 41%

Thats because your hate filled nation started showing its true face even before establishing her self. The King ceded Kashmir to India after Mr.Jinnah the trustworthy gentleman sent tribal terrorists to fight just like you guys do now. I seriously doubt Pakistan would have been any different even if Jinnah had lived any longer.

 

[53fd]

Pakistan won zero Km^2 from India!

India entered the state only after the accession. Before that it was the small army of the king protecting the state and Kashmiris against the tribal hordes.

After IA came, they ran in only one direction, showing their back.

Unfortunately Nehru went for the truce at that point against Patel's advice. Else there would be no Kashmir issue today and no Pak-China border.

In the same way, India won zero km^2 from Pakistan in 1971. Call it even?