The incredibly bloody Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam

[Zhukov]

There are very few Muslims in Latin america because Muslim invaders never attacked Latin America.
There are lot of Muslims in Middle East because the area was conquered by Muslim tribes and groups.

Migration or political conquest drives spread of religion

Which muslim army invaded Malaysia and Indonesia regions? Those are Muslim majority region with over 300 million population.

Who forced Mongol invaders to convert to islam?

And Why are spain, south eastern europe and India not Muslim Majority countries Even after being subject to centuries of Muslim rule?

Dumb

 

[wiseone2]

Which muslim army invaded Malaysia and Indonesia regions? Those are Muslim majority region with over 300 million population.

Who forced Mongol invaders to convert to islam?

And Why are spain, south eastern europe and India not Muslim Majority countries Even after being subject to centuries of Muslim rule?

Dumb

Asking Dumb questions. The inhabitants fought back.

Explain what happened to native religions of the Middle East

 

[Malik Alashter]

I believe the safavid will go to heaven without judgments at all for the conversation of Iranian to sheasim!!!!

Imagine Iran another Pakistan or Saudi or Egypt the world would see more meat for ground

الحمد لله we the Shea of Iraq helped Iranian to be free of Devil believe.

 

[raptor22]

I believe the safavid will go to heaven without judgments at all for the conversation of Iranian to sheasim!!!!

Imagine Iran another Pakistan or Saudi or Egypt the world would see more meat for ground

الحمد لله we the Shea of Iraq helped Iranian to be free of Devil believe.

Iran has been a heaven of house hold of the prophet since early days of Islam , many of then took refugee in Iran ... and Iranian helped them with everything ...

 

[Malik Alashter]

Iran has been a heaven of house hold of the prophet since early days of Islam , many of then took refugee in Iran ... and Iranian helped them with everything ...

I know you tell me.

Almajlisi may Allah grant heaven is brightest mind who helped to to convert the safavid then they converted the rest of Iran.

 

[Max]

At the end all will become Shia.

Not funny at all, atleast add emoji .

 

[Aramagedon]

Try it then ! Why you are waiting ! But be aware that some one watching you !
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Even this grey wolf symbol does not belong to you!

1970s violence and the coup of 1980
By the late 1970s the organizations had tens of thousands of members.[34] Amberin Zaman wrote that Turkish authorities had lost control over it.[30]Members of the Grey Wolves were involved in numerous assassinations of left-wing and liberal activists, intellectuals, labor organizers, ethnic Kurds, officials, journalists during the political violence between 1976 and 1980.[9][28] During this period, the organization became a "death squad"[56] engaged in "street killings and gunbattles".[18] According to authorities, 220 of its members carried out 694[56][57]murders of left-wing and liberal activists and intellectuals.[28] In total, some 5,000 to 6,000 people were killed with the Grey Wolves committing most of it.[17][58]

Their most significant attack of this period was the Maraş massacre in December 1978 when over 100 Alevis were killed.[34][59][60][61][62] They are also "alleged to have been behind" the Taksim Square massacre on May 1, 1977.[34][63] The Grey Wolves became a "state-approved force" and used attacks on left-wing groups to "cause chaos and demoralization and inflame a climate in which a regime promising law and order would be welcomed by the masses."[64] During this violent period, Grey Wolves operated with the encouragement and the protection of the Turkish Army Special Warfare Department.[65] The conflict between left-wing and right-wing groups eventually resulted in a military intervention in September 1980 when General Kenan Evren led a coup d'état.[30] According to Daniele Ganser, at the time of the coup, there were some 1,700 Grey Wolves organizations, with about 200,000 registered members and a million sympathizers.[57]Following the 1980 coup the Grey Wolves and MHP were banned. Their activism was diminished.[66] The nationalist view was that they were "used and then discarded" by higher powers.[67]

 

[Hexciter]

Even this grey wolf symbol does not belong to you!

1970s violence and the coup of 1980
By the late 1970s the organizations had tens of thousands of members.[34] Amberin Zaman wrote that Turkish authorities had lost control over it.[30]Members of the Grey Wolves were involved in numerous assassinations of left-wing and liberal activists, intellectuals, labor organizers, ethnic Kurds, officials, journalists during the political violence between 1976 and 1980.[9][28] During this period, the organization became a "death squad"[56] engaged in "street killings and gunbattles".[18] According to authorities, 220 of its members carried out 694[56][57]murders of left-wing and liberal activists and intellectuals.[28] In total, some 5,000 to 6,000 people were killed with the Grey Wolves committing most of it.[17][58]

Their most significant attack of this period was the Maraş massacre in December 1978 when over 100 Alevis were killed.[34][59][60][61][62] They are also "alleged to have been behind" the Taksim Square massacre on May 1, 1977.[34][63] The Grey Wolves became a "state-approved force" and used attacks on left-wing groups to "cause chaos and demoralization and inflame a climate in which a regime promising law and order would be welcomed by the masses."[64] During this violent period, Grey Wolves operated with the encouragement and the protection of the Turkish Army Special Warfare Department.[65] The conflict between left-wing and right-wing groups eventually resulted in a military intervention in September 1980 when General Kenan Evren led a coup d'état.[30] According to Daniele Ganser, at the time of the coup, there were some 1,700 Grey Wolves organizations, with about 200,000 registered members and a million sympathizers.[57]Following the 1980 coup the Grey Wolves and MHP were banned. Their activism was diminished.[66] The nationalist view was that they were "used and then discarded" by higher powers.[67]

LOL You are a just copy-paste master as expected from a just keyboard warrior !

 

[veg]

Which muslim army invaded Malaysia and Indonesia regions? Those are Muslim majority region with over 300 million population.

Who forced Mongol invaders to convert to islam?

And Why are spain, south eastern europe and India not Muslim Majority countries Even after being subject to centuries of Muslim rule?

Dumb

Arab Traders were rich people and at that time Islam was in it's Golden Times, and people by nature worship the rising sun.
East India company was also rich trader company and at that time Christianity spread in India.

And Mongols history is this that grand grandsons of Changiz Khan divided the state among themselves, and then they sought the POLITICAL approach to keep their states safe and strong. Therefore few of them accepted Christianity in order to make alliance with christian states, while few of them accepted Islam to have better relationship with the Muslim States.

Therefore, first of all the Mongol King (Qublai Khan) accepted Islam, and then the people of that King followed him and they also accepted the religion of their king.

Nevertheless, there may be incidents when people would have accepted Islam out of Tableegh. But it is rare.

For example Muslim ruled India for 500 years, and Muslim Preacher got all the time to convert all of them to Islam, but they failed.

While Prophet Muhammad himself was not able to convert the people of Mecca towards Islam during his first 13 years when Muslims were not strong.

But after the Victory of Mecca, when Muslims got absolute power, then came the verse of Sword (i.e. to kill Mushrikeen where they are found). After that verse, whole Arabia changed to Islam within 2 years.

So, you could see that Power always played role in the propagation of religion.

 

[Malik Alashter]

While Prophet Muhammad himself was not able to convert the people of Mecca towards Islam during his first 13 years when Muslims

Meccan didn't accept Islam due to the rivalry between Beni Hashim and Beni Abdul Shams

Bano Hadhim are the prophet and his family while Bano Abdul shams are Abo sufian and his clan

that's why meccan didn't accept Islam.

they refused because Abo Sufian was refuse and reject since he thinks he loses his war and dignity to beni Hashim.

 

[raptor22]

Not funny at all, atleast add emoji .

not joking at the end all submit to the religious of God.

 

[Max]

not joking at the end all submit to the religious of God.

yeah but Shia? whom majority of Muslim consider misguided (not saying Kafir or Takfeeri) atleast 90% of Muslims, if not more dont agree with shia practices..

And there are multiple Ahadith of Rasool SAWW about following biggest Jammat of Muslims (which happens to be Ahle sunnat) and not make divide.

Read about Sawad ul Azam related Ahadith for more info. maybe you dont have in your shia books.

 

[veg]

Meccan didn't accept Islam due to the rivalry between Beni Hashim and Beni Abdul Shams

Bano Hadhim are the prophet and his family while Bano Abdul shams are Abo sufian and his clan

that's why meccan didn't accept Islam.

they refused because Abo Sufian was refuse and reject since he thinks he loses his war and dignity to beni Hashim.

May be. But once again it shows that Banu Abdul Shams accepted Islam only when they were put under the force after the victory of Mecca. And rest of the clan also followed their leader and initially didn't accept Islam.

Moreover, there were uncles of Prophet himself, who belonged to Bani Hashim, but still they didn't accept Islam during the Meccan life.

Even after the victory of Mecca, Kuffar didn't accept Islam. But they accepted Islam after the revelation of Verse of Sword in the 9th Hijri year where they were forced either to accept Islam or to be killed.

Therefore, I am of this opinion that Force has a lot to do with the spreading of different religions.

You see, after the death of prophet, thousands of people joined the false prophets like Musailma and Sajjah. Also millions of people started following Qadiani Caliph in the previous century.

 

[Kaushika]

Since when are Kurds Iranians?
It makes no sense what you say.

All Iranics are Iranians including persians and kurds.

Indo-Iranian peoples are 4000-5000 years old:
Proto-Indo-Iranian or Proto-Indo-Iranic[1] is the reconstructed proto-language of the Indo-Iranian/Indo-Iranic branch of Indo-European. Its speakers, the hypothetical Proto-Indo-Iranians, are assumed to have lived in the late 3rd millennium BC.

Iran as a country is 2000 years old, there was no turkey back then.

The term Iran derives directly from Middle Persian Ērān, first attested in a 3rd-century inscription at Rustam Relief, with the accompanying Parthian inscription using the term Aryān, in reference to Iranians.[38] The Middle Iranian ērān and aryān are oblique plural forms of gentilic ēr- (Middle Persian) and ary- (Parthian), both deriving from Proto-Iranian *arya-(meaning "Aryan", i.e. "of the Iranians"),[38][39] argued to descend from Proto-Indo-European *ar-yo-, meaning "skillful assembler".[40]

The terms Eranshahr () and Eran were in use in Sasanian Iran. From early Sasanian era (Ardashir I and Shapur I's elaborations), as a designation of their land they adopted Ērān-šahr “Empire of the Iranians” and this served as the official name of their country.

Beside the royal title, the term "Eran" was also used as an abbreviation of "Eranshahr" and referred to the empire in the early Sasanian era.

Indeed kurds are not persians, but both are Iranian peoples, like how swedes and norwegians are both germanic peoples.

Original name of North India is Aryavarta as well. It means land of Aryans stratching from Afghanistan (it was indo aryan before iranic colonisation) to bihar.

 

[Zhukov]

Arab Traders were rich people and at that time Islam was in it's Golden Times, and people by nature worship the rising sun.
East India company was also rich trader company and at that time Christianity spread in India.

And Mongols history is this that grand grandsons of Changiz Khan divided the state among themselves, and then they sought the POLITICAL approach to keep their states safe and strong. Therefore few of them accepted Christianity in order to make alliance with christian states, while few of them accepted Islam to have better relationship with the Muslim States.

Therefore, first of all the Mongol King (Qublai Khan) accepted Islam, and then the people of that King followed him and they also accepted the religion of their king.

Nevertheless, there may be incidents when people would have accepted Islam out of Tableegh. But it is rare.

For example Muslim ruled India for 500 years, and Muslim Preacher got all the time to convert all of them to Islam, but they failed.

While Prophet Muhammad himself was not able to convert the people of Mecca towards Islam during his first 13 years when Muslims were not strong.

But after the Victory of Mecca, when Muslims got absolute power, then came the verse of Sword (i.e. to kill Mushrikeen where they are found). After that verse, whole Arabia changed to Islam within 2 years.

So, you could see that Power always played role in the propagation of religion.

Stay blessed that's all i can say. You cannot be reasoned with
According to you
Muslim traders were rich in Malays thats why they casued 90% of population to convert to Islam. The alone reason being rich here.
But Middle eastern conversion was by sword.
And Islam is not in India and Spain Because Preaching failed there. Here Malays approach dont apply. No matter they had both money and Power there.
And Mongols Converted to Islam due to Politics (To gain influence among people) And the people then Accepted The Religion of the king?

And the conclusion of all your above point is Islam is spread by power and sword.

Well whatever you want to believe. Stay blessed

Asking Dumb questions. The inhabitants fought back.

Explain what happened to native religions of the Middle East

Middle easter paganism was a offsoot of Abraham religion. They worshipped God of Abraham and Other Ibrahimic Prophets. They were not Like Hindu Pagans or Greek Pagans. Islam is also ibrahimic religion. So they converted gradually as a more complete doctrine of abrahamic faith came along instead of rag tag faiths and believes without a substantial book or scholarly base to withstood. Christians still live in Middle east where they always lived i.e around Syria. Zoroastrians still live in Iran and Afghanistan.