TorontoNoctis
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Emotions are not based on facts but feelings.
Gambit has made a good point about Americans being offended because it is a "conquest." If you ask Osama Bin Laden or any other jihadist, he will say that Cordoba House was a victory for their cause. This is offensive to some Americans. It does not matter if the average Muslim doesn't think so. The proof is that some Muslims oppose the mosque. And no, it is not just Indian Muslims who "bow down" or "keel over" or "Westernized" Muslims. Educated Muslims who are leaders of think tanks and academia are saying this is a bad idea.
However I still think America at large and even most New Yorkers should have stayed out of the issue. Obama should have simply ignored it as a local issue. I understand that most Americans view 9/11 as a Pearl Harbor. But Pearl Harbor is or should be in an entirely different category -- it was an act of war on military forces by a state. 9/11 in contrast was terrorism by criminals, a crime, not a declaration of war. Just as I find it ridiculous and a travesty that Midwestern and Central America had such a huge say in terrorism that they elected Bush to a second term due to his perceived strength on terrorism while the states on the coast most likely to be attacked by terrorists trusted Kerry and were ignored, so too do I find it a travesty that America at large thinks it has a legitimate opinion about what should or shouldn't be built. And no, I do not buy the polls which say the majority of New Yorkers oppose it. First, the question and wording is particularly stupid -- many New Yorkers might change their mind if they knew the place would be a few blocks away and not exactly at ground zero. Second, the same polls say Lower Manhattanites, the ones who have to work and shop near there, and are most likely to be paying the most attention to the location and specifics, support it.
Out of state money and influence is the scourge of America. Sarah Palin and those kinds should shut their face, and frankly so should have Obama.
Gambit has made a good point about Americans being offended because it is a "conquest." If you ask Osama Bin Laden or any other jihadist, he will say that Cordoba House was a victory for their cause. This is offensive to some Americans. It does not matter if the average Muslim doesn't think so. The proof is that some Muslims oppose the mosque. And no, it is not just Indian Muslims who "bow down" or "keel over" or "Westernized" Muslims. Educated Muslims who are leaders of think tanks and academia are saying this is a bad idea.
However I still think America at large and even most New Yorkers should have stayed out of the issue. Obama should have simply ignored it as a local issue. I understand that most Americans view 9/11 as a Pearl Harbor. But Pearl Harbor is or should be in an entirely different category -- it was an act of war on military forces by a state. 9/11 in contrast was terrorism by criminals, a crime, not a declaration of war. Just as I find it ridiculous and a travesty that Midwestern and Central America had such a huge say in terrorism that they elected Bush to a second term due to his perceived strength on terrorism while the states on the coast most likely to be attacked by terrorists trusted Kerry and were ignored, so too do I find it a travesty that America at large thinks it has a legitimate opinion about what should or shouldn't be built. And no, I do not buy the polls which say the majority of New Yorkers oppose it. First, the question and wording is particularly stupid -- many New Yorkers might change their mind if they knew the place would be a few blocks away and not exactly at ground zero. Second, the same polls say Lower Manhattanites, the ones who have to work and shop near there, and are most likely to be paying the most attention to the location and specifics, support it.
Out of state money and influence is the scourge of America. Sarah Palin and those kinds should shut their face, and frankly so should have Obama.