The Glory of the Mughal Empire

[Aepsilons]

I recommend you read this book about the three great Turkic empires.

Amazon.com: Islamic Gunpowder Empires: Ottomans, Safavids, and Mughals (Essays in World History) (9780813313597): Douglas E. Streusand: Books

It is hard to imagine but in our time all the land between Europe and China was ruled by Turkic dynasties.

My friend, even in China, the Qing Dynasty. Did you know that the Emperor of China under the Qing Dynasty was referred to as:

"Great Emperor of the Qing Dynasty and Grand Khan of Tartary, Lord of 10,000 Years and Son of Heaven...."

As the Qing Emperors were originally Manchu people,...and related to Turkic and Altaic peoples....!

 

[KingMamba]

your last emperor? he was emperor of delhi...

Delhi always belonged to the Musalman and in the future a Musulman will once again occupy Lal Qila.

There were hundreds of Dynasties in Indian history. Its impossible for India to give land to every royal family.

There are many dynasties but there are few Imperial dynasties.

 

[IndoUS]

This is rather shameful, going back on their oath of promise. At the very least , descedents of the Moghul Empire should be given a privy purse, considering all kings in India once gave obeisance and tribute to them.

Mate, the privy purse was a promise to the kings, their descendants still own the land and some palaces that were built by their forefathers, most of them are also into politics in India, and some have converted the older palaces into resorts of sort, and make a lot of money this way.

 

[Aepsilons]

your last emperor? he was emperor of delhi...

Technically, he was descendent of the Timurid Dynasty and most of what is know India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, parts of Bangladesh and even parts of Iran were once part of that Empire.

 

[livingdead]

Delhi always belonged to the Musalman and in the future a Musulman will once again occupy Lal Qila.



There are many dynasties but there are few Imperial dynasties.

ah.. the muslim connection.. i thought you were making some pakistan connection.
makes sense..

 

[atatwolf]

Guys, I also recommend you read the auto biography of Babur, the original is written in Turki language and until recently it was really hard to find English translation but nowadays with digitalization you can find it free on the net. It is considered the best written biography of the east by a man who had great significance on history.

 

[Aepsilons]

Mate, the privy purse was a promise to the kings, their descendants still own the land and some palaces that were built by their forefathers, most of them are also into politics in India, and some have converted the older palaces into resorts of sort, and make a lot of money this way.

Converted Royal Palaces into resorts!? This is wrong. These should be preserved as repositories of history and culture!

 

[KingMamba]

My friend, even in China, the Qing Dynasty. Did you know that the Emperor of China under the Qing Dynasty was referred to as:

"Great Emperor of the Qing Dynasty and Grand Khan of Tartary, Lord of 10,000 Years and Son of Heaven...."

As the Qing Emperors were originally Manchu people,...and related to Turkic and Altaic peoples....!

I do not think they had relations to Turks, the use of Grand Khan was done by all Chinese emperors after the Mongol conquest. Grand Khan is a title of imperial rank so many emperors in the East added it to their namesake.

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

Brothers, as far as Islam is concerned Pakistan or the Indus basin has been muslim for far longer than the mughals. There have been sufis preaching Islam in Pakistan for more than a thousand years etc. @Nihonjin1051 @atatwolf@KingMamba

 

[livingdead]

that's the only thing you found amusing in the pic??

ganda bachha..

 

[Aepsilons]

I do not think they had relations to Turks, the use of Grand Khan was done by all Chinese emperors after the Mongol conquest. Grand Khan is a title of imperial rank so many emperors in the East added it to their namesake.

We cannot deny that Mongols (Yuan Dynasty) intermarried with the Chinese people as well as noble families. Thus, we can safely say that Mongol blood was injected into the Chinese people. The Manchu , which are related to Jurchen tribes, and whose language and writing systems are very similar to Mongols, maintained that lineage.

 

[IndoUS]

Converted Royal Palaces into resorts!? This is wrong. These should be preserved as repositories of history and culture!

The palaces that were given to them are not major palaces these are just smaller palaces that dot all over the country there are too many of such places for the government to control and take care of and preserve. The main palaces that truly exemplifies the architecture and culture of the land are owned by the government. Most forts and larger palaces like in Rajasthan are under government control.

 

[KingMamba]

Ottomans, today's Turks still exist.

Safavids, today's Azeri Turks still exist

Unfortunately Mughals are totally whiped out. Only legacy they left is Muslim population in India. Pakistani also have to thank us for being muslim today

Uh no lol. Mughals did almost nothing for Islam in South Asia compared to older Muslim kingdoms. They actually hindered its progress at some instances by oppressing Hindus instead of giving them dawa. The only thing they did that helped was they allowed outsiders to come settle and these outsiders included many Sufis from Iran and the rest of the middle east who then went to work converting people.

 

[Aepsilons]

Brothers, as far as Islam is concerned Pakistan or the Indus basin has been muslim for far longer than the mughals. There have been sufis preaching Islam in Pakistan for more than a thousand years etc. @Nihonjin1051 @atatwolf@KingMamba

Yes, that is true. The Mughal Empire was another force that was way and above pre-existing muslim precursor states.

 

[Foot12]

Delhi always belonged to the Musalman and in the future a Musulman will once again occupy Lal Qila.



There are many dynasties but there are few Imperial dynasties.

Ok. Lets search for the descendants of the imperial Maurya Empire, Gupta Empire, Rashtrakuta Empire, Chola Empire,
Pratihara Empire, Vijayanagar Empire and Maratha Empire and give them land.
Don't be ridiculous. There is no need to treat the descendants of the Mughals differently.