The Glory of the Mughal Empire

[KingMamba]

That is all what we Turks could do. If you could have done it better. Pakistani should have made their own empire and exceed Mughul and other Turkic empires and make better mosque than Taj Mahal. J/K

Taj Mahal is not even a mosque, first research before you speak. Making empires are not the way to spread Islam it can be done in many ways, Mughals however are respected because of their power and the building they built.

 

[Aepsilons]

The Army of the Mughal Empire

 

[atatwolf]

Horse archery of Mughals

Ottomans and Safavid Turks also had this skill. Unfortunately we forgot it when they went from nomad fighting style to conventional fighting style in main lines. But there is still some exceptions in Anatolia and Central Asia where this hosry achery skill is practised.

Making empires are not the way to spread Islam it can be done in many ways, Mughals however are respected because of their power and the building they built.

If there were other ways you should have done it, instead of talking about it

 

[Aepsilons]

Mughal Horseman

 

[Foot12]

Not all these you listed are considered imperial by historians. Only Maurya, Mughal, and Maratha are usually considered imperial dynasties.

Nope. The Gupta Empire and the Rashtrakuta Empire were imperial Dynasties which dominated the major part of India.
The Rashtrakuta Empire was even described by the Arabs as one of the 4 great Empires of the world in the 9th century
and the Gupta Empire was one of the greatest patrons of science, arts and literature in Indian history.

 

[KingMamba]

Aurgangzeb really sealed the deal for Muslims and Mughal rule in India when he started massive oppression against Hindus and Sikhs.

Aurangzeb was an Emperor in the true sense of the word but his biggest mistake was starting fights his successors were not capable of ending, it should be noted that he did not lose any territory despite being at war with almost everyone but the minute he died territories were lost all over.

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

One can even credit the administrative processes of the Mughal Empire during the reign of Great Emperors such as Jahangir, Shah Jahan, Akbar the Great, Babur, Azam Shah etc for providing the basic tenets of regional administrative offices, regional governors, postal system, and thus contributed to the economic machine that allowed the transfer of goods and wares throughout all the corners of the BEHEMOTH that was the Mughal Empire.

These riches, these wealth ...is exactly what attracted European traders.

Agreed. Europeans were truly fascinated with them and still are.

 

[Contrarian]

One can even credit the administrative processes of the Mughal Empire during the reign of Great Emperors such as Jahangir, Shah Jahan, Akbar the Great, Babur, Azam Shah etc for providing the basic tenets of regional administrative offices, regional governors, postal system, and thus contributed to the economic machine that allowed the transfer of goods and wares throughout all the corners of the BEHEMOTH that was the Mughal Empire.

These riches, these wealth ...is exactly what attracted European traders.

Wouldnt go so far as to credit all of them. It was Akbar who really did most of the work. He was the one who forged alliances with the Hindu kingdoms that got peace to Mughal Empire, set up the Administrative systems and the logistics to be able to govern such a huge landmass.

The others basically kept on running his system with little changes here and there over the years.

Aurangzeb was the opposite of Akbar. He fought with everyone, pissed off the Hindus, bankrupted the treasury and basically ensured that the Mughal line could not continue for long.

 

[KingMamba]

Nope. The Gupta Empire and the Rashtrakuta Empire were imperial Dynasties which dominated the major part of India.
The Rashtrakuta Empire was even described by the Arabs as one of the 4 great Empires of the world in the 9th century
and the Gupta Empire was one of the creates patrons of science, arts and literature in Indian history.

Actually you are right. However are their any pretenders for the imperial families of those other dynasties running around?

 

[Aepsilons]

Mughal Heavy Cavalry

 

[livingdead]

One can even credit the administrative processes of the Mughal Empire during the reign of Great Emperors such as Jahangir, Shah Jahan, Akbar the Great, Babur, Azam Shah etc for providing the basic tenets of regional administrative offices, regional governors, postal system, and thus contributed to the economic machine that allowed the transfer of goods and wares throughout all the corners of the BEHEMOTH that was the Mughal Empire.

These riches, these wealth ...is exactly what attracted European traders.

to bring a perspective to the extent and reach here is a infographics of the empire.
as you can see the "empire" was quite short lived and rapidly declined after aurangzeb.

 

[Contrarian]

Aurangzeb was an Emperor in the true sense of the word but his biggest mistake was starting fights his successors were not capable of ending, it should be noted that he did not lose no territory despite being at war with almost everyone but the minute he died territories were lost all over.

I dont know how you define an "Emperor in the true sense of the word".
Because he was a terrible emperor.

-Most of his subjects were unhappy with him - ie Hindus and Sikhs.
-He started wars in all places. He could not win conclusively anywhere.
-In the constant warring, he was bankrupting the treasury. When he depleted the treasury he started giving away land pattas for life(which was not there before). All of this ensured his successors could not keep their hold.

By what stretch of imagination would you call him an Emperor in the true sense of the word? He is single handedly responsible for the end of the Mughal Empire.

 

[Aepsilons]

Mughal Court Life, and Warrior Shahs

 

[mughal arslan shah mirza]

Aurangzeb was an Emperor in the true sense of the word but his biggest mistake was starting fights his successors were not capable of ending, it should be noted that he did not lose any territory despite being at war with almost everyone but the minute he died territories were lost all over.

You know what Aurangzeb's biggest problem was, bro? He weakend the Muslim nobility of South India by figthing against them just because they were Shia. He fought against the two big Sultanates in the extreme-south of India and this had consequences.
This despite the fact that many of these nobles were tributaries to begin with. Moreover there were mughals within this nobility. He went overboard there

 

[Aepsilons]

I dont know how you define an "Emperor in the true sense of the word".
Because he was a terrible emperor.

-Most of his subjects were unhappy with him - ie Hindus and Sikhs.
-He started wars in all places. He could not win conclusively anywhere.
-In the constant warring, he was bankrupting the treasury. When he depleted the treasury he started giving away land pattas for life(which was not there before). All of this ensured his successors could not keep their hold.

By what stretch of imagination would you call him an Emperor in the true sense of the word? He is single handedly responsible for the end of the Mughal Empire.

In every Great Empires, there are some overly zealous rulers. In the Roman Empire, there was Commodus, Caligula, Nero. Araungzeb may have been a militant ruler, but the austerity and enlightened rule of previous Emperors should not be ignored.