The future of Muslims in India according to the Hindus

[Naofumi]

I think we follow different news items and go around with different Muslims of India. You can keep believing what you wrote. I don't think a response is warranted for your prejudicial thoughts.

It does no harm to accept that Muslim leadership made mistakes too.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

A separate nation is increasingly becoming necessary.

At least an autonomous state in India run by Muslims within the ambit of the Conshtitushun?

If I am to feel safe coming to India, I would visit THAT place alone. Nowhere else.

 

[xeuss]

It does no harm to accept that Muslim leadership made mistakes too.

Your very sentence is the problem. What Muslim leadership? Those Muslims nurtured by political parties for their own agendas? Regrettably, I have no desire to continue this discussion with you.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

It does no harm to accept that Muslim leadership made mistakes too.

There is no national Muslim leadership.

The local leaders made no more mistakes than non Muslim leaders.

They dont stand out.

 

[Naofumi]

There is no national Muslim leadership.

The local leaders made no more mistakes than non Muslim leaders.

They dont stand out.

Owaisi counts?

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Owaisi counts?

Owaisi is a stellar leader. Both of them actually.

Sure, they have not done as much as they could have , perhaps.

But making space for Muslims in a society where everyone hates you is something.

 

[Naofumi]

Owaisi is a stellar leader. Both of them actually.

Sure, they have not done as much as they could have , perhaps.

But making space for Muslims in a society where everyone hates you is something.

Then he failed too for employment and general development.

What Muslim leadership?

What would you say about religious leadership?

 

[ChennaiDude]

A separate nation is increasingly becoming necessary.

At least an autonomous state in India run by Muslims within the ambit of the Conshtitushun?

If I am to feel safe coming to India, I would visit THAT place alone. Nowhere else.

Here is my take- Hindus OF INDIA who want a purely Hindu Rashtra- Need to just go and drown in the Ganges- (Since they is no real Hindu country existing), Muslims OF INDIA-who want another Muslim country or Autonomous region can move to Islamic countries- The fabric of India is secular and so it should be- Everyone just keep religion/faith at home and everything will be fine-Work towards UCC thats the only realistic solution in my opinion.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Muslims OF INDIA-who want another Muslim country or Autonomous region can move to Islamic countries

Why?

Our aspirations are not ... justified?

Here is my take- Hindus OF INDIA who want a purely Hindu Rashtra- Need to just go and drown in the Ganges- (Since they is no real Hindu country existing)

Agreed.

The fabric of India is secular

Doubt it now.

 

[Naofumi]

Work towards UCC thats the only realistic solution in my opinion.

A wider integration is required in Armed forces, Bureaucracy and economy.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

A wider integration is required in Armed forces, Bureaucracy and economy.

33% of the armed forces should have Muslims. The bureaucracy and economy can follow.
Plus, I think a force than has substantial Muslims will be less biased in cases of communcal violence.

Can a reservation model work here?

What do you think?

 

[Naofumi]

33% of the armed forces should have Muslims. The bureaucracy and economy can follow.
Plus, I think a force than has substantial Muslims will be less biased in cases of communcal violence.

Can a reservation model work here?

What do you think?

33% is too high, we can aim for 10% though.
And yup, a reservation model can work. And it will solve problem both ways - Muslims will become more "patriotic" and gain influence too.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Why?

Our aspirations are not ... justified?

Your aspirations are justified within the constitution of India- Not for a separate entity-Where does that end if every religion/caste etc start demanding the same?

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Your aspirations are justified within the constitution of India- Not for a separate entity-Where does that end if every religion/caste etc start demanding the same?

That is for you to figure out.

If you give Muslims in India an option and a condition, I can guarantee a favorable result.

question - Do you want to live in a Muslim state in the safety of the community?
condition - Make sure the person responding is able to do so anonymously so that he/she does not have to bear the consequences of the response.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Why?

Our aspirations are not ... justified?

Agreed.


Doubt it now.

Muslims aspirations are justified but Hindus are not?- be truthful and answer that with out deflecting- I agree India is secular in theory but practically has a long way to go-As an Indian its every Indians responsibility to work towards it and not break it- No.