The Fight against PKK Terrorism

[Otonom Piyade]

 

[Mr.Department]

The map in the background is Atatürks Misaki-Milli boarders.

 

[Dinky]

KRG showed the cold shoulder to Turkey because Birzani finally decided to show its mossad self. I never understood why the hell Turkey supported KRG when it is a safe haven for PKK Terrorists who are allowed with Birzanis permission.

 

[Mr.Department]

KRG showed the cold shoulder to Turkey because Birzani finally decided to show its mossad self. I never understood why the hell Turkey supported KRG when it is a safe haven for PKK Terrorists who are allowed with Birzanis permission.

And operate against Türkiye with all means !

 

[Targon]

This isnt "Israel's plan" Israel merely cheers it. Kurds have been trying this sh.t since before Israel was even formed.

 

[revojam]

Since 15th century if i remember right.

This isnt "Israel's plan" Israel merely cheers it. Kurds have been trying this sh.t since before Israel was even formed.

 

[bedbin]

I dont accept casualties. I hate when I think they make politics from that. I dont think PKK will be dumb enough to kill the agents. If they kill them they know what will happen. It is one to kill soldiers in attack it is completely different to kidnap members of security services and to execute them. The way you receive the message is different. And the taken actions are on different level.

https://twitter.com/x/status/910650057829085184

Man, stop being funny nothing will happen if they kill the agents.

Nope, we all know where orders come from.

 

[Kiryu]

Turkey isn't the only one throwing Barzani and the KDP scraps which kind of dilutes any influence Turkey might have. I'm sure Barzani knows Turkey wont sacrifice the energy supplies and trade that have been built up over the past decade, and if they do it wont be through design but because someone else forced it. Erdogan however, will make a lot of noise, then when it all dies down it will be business as usual. At least I'm sure that's what Barzani is hoping. If it doesn't, he has other options.

Let them try it. Then we will have the excuse to destroy their shit hole and turn the area in hell with full power. Turkey have the right to intervene in the internal politics of every country that have Turk diaspora. If they think they can intervene in Diyarbakir let them try. They will understand how Turkey can intervene in their areas. They will accuse us of genocide over the Kurds like every time we "intervene". There will be again #Sehid_Namirin and #TurkeyHandsOffErbil. Fvcking jokers.

Haven't we learned anything from Syria? Do you not think if Turkey cuts all ties to the KRG that Iran won't take advantage the next day and offer the KRG a different route to the outside world through them? They will claim they are being pragmatic and offering a peaceful solution and Turkey will come across as the bad guy once again. What will Turkey do then? Cut all ties to Iran as well? Iran knows Turkey can't cut ties with everyone. Do you not think Baghdad won't seize the opportunity to offer a power sharing deal with the KRG? Turkish FP can be so naive sometimes. Populism is never effective when drawing up policies. Ultimately Turkey will fail if it takes this approach. Just like in Syria when Assad must go turned into Russian backing, Shia militias and the rise of the PYD (salih Muslim educated at Istanbul Technical University) and every other opportunist thankful for the chaos that they in turn used to increase their own power. Turkey still hasn't learnt how to use it's power effectively. Always overplaying it's hand till it wrecks any influence she once had.

Lets just sit back on this one. The PMU are clashing already, the Iranians are kind of tied now to the Frankensteins they have created. They need to keep the shia militias happy. Use this to our advantage for a change. State out clear and reasonable positions. Keep our eyes open for opportunities when they arise. Stick to fighting the PKK in Kandil, even take it over if we have to maintain a larger presence in the north just in case. Even compromise with the KRG if we have too. If that means supporting Kurdish independence, so long as they pull out of Kirkuk and the mixed or Turkmen towns along the strip all the way down to Kifri. But it's foolish to take hard line positions just because the Iranians are being nice to us for a change. It won't last.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just concerned that Turkey will get played again and another Syria this time in Iraq will leave Turkey ostracised on the outside unable to protect her interests.

 

[Otonom Piyade]

One thing is for certain... this Syria and Iraq has been a chess played by all EU, Russia, US and Iran... the gambles Turkey has taken hasn't been effective, because what ever move Turkey makes, Russia, US and Iran make a combined joint counter move.

We will need to play out cards wisely.

 

[Hamzza]

One thing is for certain... this Syria and Iraq has been a chess played by all EU, Russia, US and Iran... the gambles Turkey has taken hasn't been effective, because what ever move Turkey makes, Russia, US and Iran make a combined joint counter move.

We will need to play out cards wisely.

We could've played a lot of cards but decided to throw them out instead.

 

[Kitco]

We could've played a lot of cards but decided to throw them out instead.

Please give example instead of just saying we did play our cards wrong. What should we have done instead?

 

[Baybars Han]

Aha taptiginiz tayyip

 

[Hamzza]

Please give example instead of just saying we did play our cards wrong. What should we have done instead?

Not feed Barzani and now try to get rid of him after he turns away and tries to declare a referendum , not let YPG through our own borders to fight in Kobane which inevitably led to their growth and now the US arms them to the teeth. The current situation we see in Northern Syria and Iraq is due to our poor foreign policy. We let the PKK/YPG/KRG get to this point.

 

[Timur]

Let them try it. Then we will have the excuse to destroy their shit hole and turn the area in hell with full power. Turkey have the right to intervene in the internal politics of every country that have Turk diaspora. If they think they can intervene in Diyarbakir let them try. They will understand how Turkey can intervene in their areas. They will accuse us of genocide over the Kurds like every time we "intervene". There will be again #Sehid_Namirin and #TurkeyHandsOffErbil. Fvcking jokers.

as if it is this easy.. on one side there is the interest of money.. at the other side our leaders are working for the interest of other nations for the big powers.. and than finally our ppls interest..

creating him in the first place is idiotic than to go out and destroy him.. do you really think we would destroy him after we created and feeded him? will our masters allow us to destroy him? questions over questions but the answer may be scary..


and the other side if Usrael and USGer would REALLY support that new nation how would it look like? 500 abrahams? 100 apache? thaad or patriot? didnt our leaders see it coming? or did they see it but it was not important for them or do they actually had the same goals as our enemies?

 

[kartal1]

Turkey isn't the only one throwing Barzani and the KDP scraps which kind of dilutes any influence Turkey might have. I'm sure Barzani knows Turkey wont sacrifice the energy supplies and trade that have been built up over the past decade, and if they do it wont be through design but because someone else forced it. Erdogan however, will make a lot of noise, then when it all dies down it will be business as usual. At least I'm sure that's what Barzani is hoping. If it doesn't, he has other options.


Haven't we learned anything from Syria? Do you not think if Turkey cuts all ties to the KRG that Iran won't take advantage the next day and offer the KRG a different route to the outside world through them? They will claim they are being pragmatic and offering a peaceful solution and Turkey will come across as the bad guy once again. What will Turkey do then? Cut all ties to Iran as well? Iran knows Turkey can't cut ties with everyone. Do you not think Baghdad won't seize the opportunity to offer a power sharing deal with the KRG? Turkish FP can be so naive sometimes. Populism is never effective when drawing up policies. Ultimately Turkey will fail if it takes this approach. Just like in Syria when Assad must go turned into Russian backing, Shia militias and the rise of the PYD (salih Muslim educated at Istanbul Technical University) and every other opportunist thankful for the chaos that they in turn used to increase their own power. Turkey still hasn't learnt how to use it's power effectively. Always overplaying it's hand till it wrecks any influence she once had.

Lets just sit back on this one. The PMU are clashing already, the Iranians are kind of tied now to the Frankensteins they have created. They need to keep the shia militias happy. Use this to our advantage for a change. State out clear and reasonable positions. Keep our eyes open for opportunities when they arise. Stick to fighting the PKK in Kandil, even take it over if we have to maintain a larger presence in the north just in case. Even compromise with the KRG if we have too. If that means supporting Kurdish independence, so long as they pull out of Kirkuk and the mixed or Turkmen towns along the strip all the way down to Kifri. But it's foolish to take hard line positions just because the Iranians are being nice to us for a change. It won't last.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just concerned that Turkey will get played again and another Syria this time in Iraq will leave Turkey ostracised on the outside unable to protect her interests.

You are telling me to sit and watch like always and let Kerkuk to be part of the whole sh!t? I am wondering what will be the answer of the Iraqi Turkmen to your message. Dont you realize that if KRG get independence the same is going to happen in Turkey? Maybe not now but in 20 years. The situation is we or them. Nobody in the region likes them. So its good opportunity. If Iraq central government gets all of the control in the country even with hardcore methods that means that we will not trade with Barzani but instead with Iraq and Iran. Iran is using PKK against us we used KRG against them. This could be the end of all.

Man, stop being funny nothing will happen if they kill the agents.

Nope, we all know where orders come from.

We will see. PKK in Kandil is not ISIS in Raqqa.