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The Fight against PKK Terrorism

I have nothing but negative feelings towards any kurd in Turkey that wants autonomy or even more. Look at all the countries you live in, show me one where Kurds have achieved more, have more rights, better education and income. If it wasn't for Kurds, the Kurds in the East would be way better off today.

Just think of all the tourism that could be, all the factories that could be. Take a look at GAP and how much fertile land has been created and will be.

But no, go on support murderers, kidnappers, school burners, Highway sabotaging morons.

The whole East, is not paying for electricity, water or gas. Do you see and Türk complaining that he has to effectively pay for two families electricity, water and gas? His own and another random kurdish family in the East.

The government offered families money in order to get kurdish daughters to school, the government that I hate so much did so much for Kurds and yet you still have the gratitude to complain.

KRG, while Iraq is still a shithole with all their oil money Bashur has become a heaven. They have it 1000 times better than they had before. In EVERYTHING. In Syria they are ahead the rest of the country, they are promoting the agriculture and other sectors and before the war even though the Kurds owned nothing they were the most productive region of Syria. With the oil production, cotton, wheat etc. But it all got refined in Homs and Aleppo. Look it up at Sky Arabic, half of Syria's economy were from the Krudish regions.

The water, the gas and the electricity is all coming form the East for god sake! They are the ones who are not getting paid for having the resources extracted and brought to the western parts. It's the other way around! The Kurdish regions are poor, very poor even though there is so much potential. It started by Turkey when they neglected the region from the begining and now AKP thinks they can fix it, that it is all econmic problems. Many Kurds do like the investments AKP have brought but many still doesn't. That's why the east is still a HDP stronghold, people don't care about the money, they lived for so long without it and can continue.

But if Kurds get some sort of autonomy you will see change. Investments will be coming.
 
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What electricity or gas is coming from the east? There are some dams there that generate electricity and so what? Does that mean kurds should not have to pay? I don't really get you but that's probably not the first time you're hearing this.

Go climb the mountains and fight for your country.
 
The Kurdish regions are poor, very poor even though there is so much potential. It started by Turkey when they neglected the region from the begining and now AKP thinks they can fix it, that it is all econmic problems. Many Kurds do like the investments AKP have brought but many still doesn't. That's why the east is still a HDP stronghold, people don't care about the money, they lived for so long without it and can continue.

So you are basically saying: "my people enjoy their poverty and misery, don't touch them so that we can continue our constant bitching and moaning". And you say this from Sweden. Wow :)
 
So you are basically saying: "my people enjoy their poverty and misery, don't touch them so that we can continue our constant bitching and moaning". And you say this from Sweden. Wow :)

No I am saying that we are better fixing that then anybody else. But you keep insisting.
 
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KRG, while Iraq is still a shithole with all their oil money Bashur has become a heaven. They have it 1000 times better than they had before. In EVERYTHING. In Syria they are ahead the rest of the country, they are promoting the agriculture and other sectors and before the war even though the Kurds owned nothing they were the most productive region of Syria. With the oil production, cotton, wheat etc. But it all got refined in Homs and Aleppo. Look it up at Sky Arabic, half of Syria's economy were from the Krudish regions.

The water, the gas and the electricity is all coming form the East for god sake! They are the ones who are not getting paid for having the resources extracted and brought to the western parts. It's the other way around! The Kurdish regions are poor, very poor even though there is so much potential. It started by Turkey when they neglected the region from the begining and now AKP thinks they can fix it, that it is all econmic problems. Many Kurds do like the investments AKP have brought but many still doesn't. That's why the east is still a HDP stronghold, people don't care about the money, they lived for so long without it and can continue.

Actually, the little gas we have comes from the Thrace area.
Water being stored from Fırat and Dicle rivers is being utilized by the locals(no water is being transported to the west, Atatürk dam is in Urfa (Arab))
Electricity, is only for 24 percent produced by Hyrdoplants and dams are placed everywhere in Turkey. The rest comes from Gas (imported) and Coals (central Anatolia).
 
Nobody bothered with fully conquering Kurds(only subjugated them) because there was nothing to conquer, no cities, no castles, no trade resources, just mountainmen and cattles.
 
What electricity or gas is coming from the east? There are some dams there that generate electricity and so what? Does that mean kurds should not have to pay? I don't really get you but that's probably not the first time you're hearing this.

Go climb the mountains and fight for your country.

The oil production from Elih, Kurds get nothing from that oil. The water from Tigris and Euphrates originates from the Kurdish regions that feeds all the dams, farmlands etc. Alot of Metals are being extracted from Wan but it's all transported to the west.

Another thing most of Turkey hotel chains and tourism sector is largely run by Kurds especally drug lords from Lice that have invested their money on that.
 
The oil production from Elih, Kurds get nothing from that oil. The water from Tigris and Euphrates originates from the Kurdish regions that feeds all the dams, farmlands etc. Alot of Metals are being extracted from Wan but it's all transported to the west.

Another thing most of Turkey hotel chains and tourism sector is largely run by Kurds especally drug lords from Lice that have invested their money on that.
And who payed the taxes to build those billion Euro dams?
 
What do you want to get ? if you get your tiny bit of oil and get the all infractures Turkey built destroyed in exchange will you be happy ?

There isn't any significiant amount of gas or oil is extracted from the region, there isn't any kind of special trade resources, water is being used by locals, so what there is ? Yeah Turkish government made them poor, otherwise this sh.tty piece of agricultural land had too much "potential"

No tax, drug money, is that what you're proud of ? Yeah while people from west are paying taxes and working honestly, Kurds are getting rich by drug money and don't pay taxes, and most riduculously, west has been paying the taxes of east ! may be the wrong side is rebelling ?
 
The honorable pkk is europes biggest drugs trafficer, so honorable people the pkk and their supporters.
 
The oil production from Elih, Kurds get nothing from that oil. The water from Tigris and Euphrates originates from the Kurdish regions that feeds all the dams, farmlands etc. Alot of Metals are being extracted from Wan but it's all transported to the west.

Another thing most of Turkey hotel chains and tourism sector is largely run by Kurds especally drug lords from Lice that have invested their money on that.
Me and bahoz had exactly the same discussion once, this guy is coming up with the same arguments like "kurdish oil" and " kurds crossing the border for visiting their familys".

Im 100% sure this is the same guys with his third account.
 
I have no idea why they did this. Maybe to put pressure or something but it doesn't make them look good. But Demirtas is going to take care of it


You are just pervert, you are kidnaping little male child and raping.... then send back them to villages, sometimes you are kidnaping for make them terrorists then you are asking why Kurdish mothers want back their childreen.... you are just pervert terrorists..... We know you very well so you cant change your real face by sending innocent messages to foreign people....

and we know you that you are extension of ASALA (Armenian terrorists group), you just changed your name as PKK 30 years ago for use Kurdish people for your plans.

Forget your big Armenia project....
 
You are just pervert, you are kidnaping little male child and raping.... then send back them to villages, sometimes you are kidnaping for make them terrorists then you are asking why Kurdish mothers want back their childreen.... you are just pervert terrorists..... We know you very well so you cant change your real face by sending innocent messages to foreign people....

and we know you that you are extension of ASALA (Armenian terrorists group), you just changed your name as PKK 30 years ago for use Kurdish people for your plans.

Forget your big Armenia project....

PKK-ARMENIAN RELATIONS

Changing their tactics after the ‘80s as they encountered adverse reactions from the world. Now, it was time for PKK to carry on the mission. Their first terrorist act started at Eruh and Semdimli in 1984 while the ASALA-Armenian terror receded to the background. Some of the tangible proofs of the ties between Armenians and PKK are the following:

The terrorist organisation PKK announced the period from 21 to 28 April 1980 as the “Red Week” and started to organise meetings on April 24 as the anniversary of the alleged genocide against Armenians.

The PKK and ASALA terror organisations held a joint press conference on 8 April 1980 at the City of Sidon in Lebanon where they issued a declaration. Since this drew a considerable reaction, they decided that their relations should be maintained on a clandestine basis. The responsibility of the attacks launched against the Turkish Consulate General in Strasbourg on 9 November 1980 and the Turkish Airline office in Rome on 19 November 1980 were undertaken jointly by the ASALA and PKK.

Abdullah Öcalan, leader of the separatist terror organisation, was elected to the honorary membership of the Armenian Authors’ Association for “his contributions to the idea of Greater Armenia”.

A Kurdistan Committee was formed within the Armenian Popular Movement like in many European countries.

On 4 June 1993, a meeting was held at the headquarters of PKK terrorist organisation at West Beyrouth with the participation of representatives from the Armenian Hinchak Party, ASALA and PKK.

Another striking example of the Armenian-PKK ties are the following resolutions adopted in meetings held at two separate churches from 6 to 9 September 1993 with the participation of Lebanese Armenian Orthodox Archbishop, officials of the Armenian Party and about 150 youth leaders:

A somewhat sedate attitude should be reserved toward Turkey for the time being.

The Armenian community is on the way to growth and better economic strength.

The propaganda activities have started to make the genocide claims better understood in the rest of the world.

The newly founded Armenian State with a constantly growing territory will definitely avenge the ancestors of its citizens.

The Western powers and particularly the United States side with and favour the Armenians in the combat for Nagorno Karabakh. This opportunity should be well exploited as more and more Armenian young men join the ranks in this fight.

The perpetual terrorist attacks in Turkey (meaning the PKK’s actions)will continue and eventually collapse the country’s economy, leading to an uprising by the entire population.

Turkey will be abolish and a Kurdish State will be formed.

Armenians will hold good relations with the Kurds and support their fight.

Territories presently held by the Turks will the Armenian’s tomorrow.

PUBLICATION ORGANS OF TERRORIST ORGANISATION PKK IN ARMENIA

The newspapers Reya Taze and Bota Redaksiyon are published in Armenia in Cyrillic alphabet under the control of terrorist organisation PKK with the help of PKK members coming from Turkey and Europe and carries out propaganda for the PKK.

PKK-ASALA RELATIONS

The Armenian terrorism at international first started basis in 1973 and began to gain impetus after the 1974 Cyprus Peace Operation with attacks or terrorist nature against Turks and Turkish representations abroad with sabotages and outright assaults.

Upon resurrection of the Kurdish terrorist movement that began to show itself in a variety of legal political entities from ‘70s onward, the Armenian terror organisation ASALA ceded its place in 1984 to the PKK that killed without distinction of Turk or Kurd in a bloodthirsty manner under the guidance of Abdullah Öcalan.

Yet in prior to that date, of the co-operation between terrorist organisations ASALA and PKK was known manifesting in the training of ASALA militants at PKK’s trannie camps, the joint operations and declamations by them both and training support provided at the PKK camps by Armenian experts, not to mention the organic ties between the terrorist organisation PKK and Armenian Tashnak Sutyun Party.

The common goal of the co-operation between the terrorist organisations PKK and ASALA is to establish States in Turkey’s Southeastern and Eastern under the Marxist-Leninist ideology. Since, however, an overview of the areas on which both organisations had schemes, it may be deduced that one of these organisations acts as the other’s mercenaries.

An examination of the discovered documents revealed that the militants of ASALA and PKK terrorist organisations underwent training at the Bekaa and Zeli camps.

1987 AGREEMENT BETWEEN PKK AND ARMENIANS

An agreement was concluded between the separatist terror organisation PKK and Armenians in 1987. Following are the highlights of this agreement:

1. Armenians will be involved in training activities within the PKK terror organisation.

2. Five thousand American Dollars per annum will be paid to the PKK terror organisation per capita by the Armenian side.

3. The Armenians will participate in the small-scale operations. As the Armenian component began to acquire a significantly elevated position within the organisation as a result of this agreement, the following resolutions were adopted in a meeting held on 18 April 1990 with a person named Hermes Samurai, reported to be the official responsible for the PKK-ASALA relations:

1. The PKK and ASALA terrorist organisations will be under a joint command from that date on.

2. The Armenians will undertake intelligence work on the Turkish security forces.

3. Territories gained through the expected revolution will be equally shared between the parties.

4. Seventy-five percent of training camp expenses will be borne by the Armenians.

5. Operations will be conducted at the metropolitan cities in Turkey.

The terrorist organisation PKK that moved its bases into Northern Iraq after because of very heavy blows dealt in the transborder operations and lost all possibilities of sheltering there is known to have entered into arrangements for shifting some of its cadres to Iran and Armenia where it started an active subversive operation toward Turkey.

It has also been learned that a group of European representatives of the terrorist organisation PKK paid a visit to Armenia where they concluded an agreement with the Armenian leaders for the unhindered ingress to and egress from Kars region by their militants, that Armenia offered sheltering, monetary and equipment support to the Kurdish settlements in that country following the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the formal proclamation of the Armenian Republic. Similarly, a group of militants of the terrorist organisation PKK left Urmiah for Armenia on three vehicles on 19 and 20 May 1992 for fighting against Azerite Turks together with the Armenians.

ARMENIAN TERRORISM - FORSNET
 
And who payed the taxes to build those billion Euro dams?

you were never asked to build those dams, that forced tens of thousands of Kurds to flee, like what you're doing to Hasankeyf, destroying Kurdish historical places.
 
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