The F 16 Game---Paf Should Have Had A Different Game Plan

[Pulsar]

And your evidence is?

Whistle blower from LM.

 

[Paksanity]

Whistle blower from LM.

Please share the evidence.

 

[Pulsar]

Please share the evidence.

Sorry! A whistle blower's identity is to be kept secret!

 

[Paksanity]

Sorry! A whistle blower's identity is to be kept secret!

He blew this whistle in your presence? Any news link to this or anything substantial you have to support your claim? Or you just made it up out of thin air?

 

[Pulsar]

He blew this whistle in your presence? Any news link to this or anything substantial you have to support your claim? Or you just made it up out of thin air?

Thin air or hot air, think what you like. Take it or leave it. But I suggest you check out what the Turkish air force has done to their F-16s! Nuff said!

 

[Paksanity]

Thin air or hot air, think what you like. Take it or leave it. But I suggest you check out what the Turkish air force has done to their F-16s! Nuff said!

So basically, you are minting these so called facts in your behind and you have no reference whatsoever to back it up. Could it be that the "whistle" you heard was actually something else!?

 

[Pulsar]

So basically, you are minting these so called facts in your behind and you have no reference whatsoever to back it up. Could it be that the "whistle" you heard was actually something else!?

Spewing hot air from behind isn't my way, like it is yours. Anyway, I will not name whistle blowers here but here's something for you to read from another Pakistani source that will corroborate what I have said....

Kill Switches on F-16s

The discussion about kill switches existing or not in Pakistani F-16s is a critical issue since Pakistan cannot afford to find its planes of no worth in case of war. Further, another issue is whether in such a mode these F-16s may be able to infect other data linked platforms. We have only recently observed how the Stuxnet virus infected the Iranian reactors. We also observed how Syrian radars could not observe the Israeli planes that attacked Syria’s supposed nuclear facilities. There have been concerns raised that this may have been a form of new EW systems that are closer to computer viruses in that they exploit the software of the radars.

Pakistan’s C4I could be compromised if these F-16s or other US equipment are found to be Trojan horses or less identifiably, entry points for such attacks.

We open the discussion with Brother Shamim’s analysis that the discussion of kill switches in Pakistani F-16s may be one that is politically motivated. The purpose behind this is described as American attempts to sell their weapons, particularly combat jets, to India.

Brother Shamim notes that the Pentagon’s “Non Lethal Weapons Directorate” has only recently begun sending RFPs for such technologies. The proposed technology would allow aircraft to be safely diverted or prevented from taking off. The respected Pakdef member confirms his analysis through a conversation with a former Lockheed Martin colleague. This reviewer notes that such RFPs are mainly targeted for general purposes. Public and open RFPs are needed to make this technology acceptable for FAA purposes. Embedding such technologies in foreign military sales would not be related to such RFPs, but rather be black projects unknown to the public and not shareable with individuals considered attached to foreign militaries.

Brother Munir’s analysis looks to evidence of tampering with aircraft sold by the United States to foreign countries. He notes that even a close ally such is Australia, has had issues with technical limitations programmed into them. Brother Munir notes that Australia has had a problem with BVR weapons capabilities. He comments that Australia overcame their limitations by hacking into the system, an issue on which they do no see eye-to-eye with their American counterparts on.

Brother Munir also gives the example of Malaysia’s F/A-18s and notes issues with accuracy [perhaps discussing targeting systems]. This author also notes that Malaysian F/A-18 pilots found, to their surprise, that they cannot designate way-points on Singapore. Malaysia is unlikely to be a customer of US military aircraft.

Another point raised is that Indonesian Su-27s had mysterious glitches that would suddenly indicate that the planes were under attack. Brother Munir doubts that this was merely a software error. He also notes that it is not possible to go through everything as such planes are extremely complex machines with million of lines of codes. A thorough review would be expensive, time consuming and by and large, beyond the reach of a customer.

Brother Munir also talks about how a Chinese purchase of a Boeing aircraft was bugged by the CIA. He asks us to ponder upon why the JSF has only black boxes that need to be returned to the USA with everything produced and maintained by US companies. Essentially, he is telling us that the Americans can best be understood in a Machiavellian light. They cannot be trusted and cannot be relied upon in any way.

Brother Munir believes that the F-16 can be compromised using its satellite receiver. This is located on the spine of the aircraft. Any party that controls the GPS transmission can scramble anything it wants into the aircraft’s receiver. This can simple be a passive activation of a hidden trigger. He notes that this has implications not only for the aircraft, but also for the air force. He gives the example of Israel’s attack on the Syrian supposed nuclear site. Brother Munir wonders allowed what could happen if the Indians receive such EW devices which could not only impact the F-16s, but could impact the entire C4I through these Trojan horses.

The respected Pakdef member notes that such details and information is not likely to be confirmed or rejected in a manner than can be considered reliable because of the conflict of interest. He notes that such kill switches, judging by past US policy, is in their interest.

Grande Strategy

 

[Donald Trump]

I've read this too. Kill switches are a fact!

 

[Paksanity]

Spewing hot air from behind isn't my way, like it is yours. Anyway, I will not name whistle blowers here but here's something for you to read from another Pakistani source that will corroborate what I have said....

Kill Switches on F-16s

The discussion about kill switches existing or not in Pakistani F-16s is a critical issue since Pakistan cannot afford to find its planes of no worth in case of war. Further, another issue is whether in such a mode these F-16s may be able to infect other data linked platforms. We have only recently observed how the Stuxnet virus infected the Iranian reactors. We also observed how Syrian radars could not observe the Israeli planes that attacked Syria’s supposed nuclear facilities. There have been concerns raised that this may have been a form of new EW systems that are closer to computer viruses in that they exploit the software of the radars.

Pakistan’s C4I could be compromised if these F-16s or other US equipment are found to be Trojan horses or less identifiably, entry points for such attacks.

We open the discussion with Brother Shamim’s analysis that the discussion of kill switches in Pakistani F-16s may be one that is politically motivated. The purpose behind this is described as American attempts to sell their weapons, particularly combat jets, to India.

Brother Shamim notes that the Pentagon’s “Non Lethal Weapons Directorate” has only recently begun sending RFPs for such technologies. The proposed technology would allow aircraft to be safely diverted or prevented from taking off. The respected Pakdef member confirms his analysis through a conversation with a former Lockheed Martin colleague. This reviewer notes that such RFPs are mainly targeted for general purposes. Public and open RFPs are needed to make this technology acceptable for FAA purposes. Embedding such technologies in foreign military sales would not be related to such RFPs, but rather be black projects unknown to the public and not shareable with individuals considered attached to foreign militaries.

Brother Munir’s analysis looks to evidence of tampering with aircraft sold by the United States to foreign countries. He notes that even a close ally such is Australia, has had issues with technical limitations programmed into them. Brother Munir notes that Australia has had a problem with BVR weapons capabilities. He comments that Australia overcame their limitations by hacking into the system, an issue on which they do no see eye-to-eye with their American counterparts on.

Brother Munir also gives the example of Malaysia’s F/A-18s and notes issues with accuracy [perhaps discussing targeting systems]. This author also notes that Malaysian F/A-18 pilots found, to their surprise, that they cannot designate way-points on Singapore. Malaysia is unlikely to be a customer of US military aircraft.

Another point raised is that Indonesian Su-27s had mysterious glitches that would suddenly indicate that the planes were under attack. Brother Munir doubts that this was merely a software error. He also notes that it is not possible to go through everything as such planes are extremely complex machines with million of lines of codes. A thorough review would be expensive, time consuming and by and large, beyond the reach of a customer.

Brother Munir also talks about how a Chinese purchase of a Boeing aircraft was bugged by the CIA. He asks us to ponder upon why the JSF has only black boxes that need to be returned to the USA with everything produced and maintained by US companies. Essentially, he is telling us that the Americans can best be understood in a Machiavellian light. They cannot be trusted and cannot be relied upon in any way.

Brother Munir believes that the F-16 can be compromised using its satellite receiver. This is located on the spine of the aircraft. Any party that controls the GPS transmission can scramble anything it wants into the aircraft’s receiver. This can simple be a passive activation of a hidden trigger. He notes that this has implications not only for the aircraft, but also for the air force. He gives the example of Israel’s attack on the Syrian supposed nuclear site. Brother Munir wonders allowed what could happen if the Indians receive such EW devices which could not only impact the F-16s, but could impact the entire C4I through these Trojan horses.

The respected Pakdef member notes that such details and information is not likely to be confirmed or rejected in a manner than can be considered reliable because of the conflict of interest. He notes that such kill switches, judging by past US policy, is in their interest.

Grande Strategy

THIS is your god damn evidence!? You guys are living on fake hopes that US would have installed kill switches in our F-16s? Oh boy, life must be very unkind to you.

 

[Desertfalcon]

THIS is your god damn evidence!? You guys are living on fake hopes that US would have installed kill switches in our F-16s? Oh boy, life must be very unkind to you.

It's stems from this curious, conspiracy laden crowd that believes that America and her security forces are everywhere, have tentacles in everything, and can do anything like kill another countries F-16's. Indians seem especially susceptible to these fantasies.

Meanwhile in the real world, the entire US government's intelligence forces cannot even unlock a terrorist's iPhone, without having Apple do it for them.

Feds slam Apple, saying it could easily help unlock iPhone and is 'not above the law' - LA Times

 

[Gen Padmanabhan]

It's stems from this curious, conspiracy laden crowd that believes that America and her security forces are everywhere, have tentacles in everything, and can do anything like kill another countries F-16's. Indians seem especially susceptible to these fantasies.

Meanwhile in the real world, the entire US government's intelligence forces cannot even unlock a terrorist's iPhone, without having Apple do it for them.

Feds slam Apple, saying it could easily help unlock iPhone and is 'not above the law' - LA Times

Maybe you choose to ignore this?
NSA documents show US, UK spied on Israeli drones - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Maarkhoor]

BEWARE! AESA or no AESA, those F-16s are most likely fitted with 'Kill Switches' which can be remotely operated by the Americans through satellites on the hidden built-in transponders on the planes. In a war situation, the F-16s will go pffffttt! You won't be able to even start them!!

Thank Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works for this!

Jhoot bolay Kawa katay kalay kaway se daroooo...any source...it was just a rumor circulating since 2004...not correct they just don't provide the source code thats all...Simply bro you people can't digest 8 Jets...try Hajmola...Rafale deal is on and off Tejas is not yet ready till 2023-24 (mk2)...all this give you bad stomach and every body know with this condition people often see bad dreams...

 

[Pulsar]

You need to get out of your shoe box and see the world outside. There's more happening than meets your jaundiced eye.

Are you aware of System Planning Corporation which is a Virginia based corporation that conducts research and produces electronics and computer software for the United States Department of Defense and other federal government agencies in the support of National security? They work in close collaboration with DARPA and Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works.

SPC is one of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's largest support contractors. The company has supported DARPA virtually continuously since the company's founding. SPC provides systems engineering, technical analysis, and support services to most of DARPA's Technology Offices.

SPC also has a long involvement with the U.S. stealth program. SPC designed and fabricated one of the first specialized radar cross section measurement radars used to validate the low observable signatures of stealthy vehicles. SPC continues to produce RCS measurement systems, currently the MK V, which is now principally used by the U.S. to provide quality assurance for deployed aircraft and ships, including the F-117A and B-2 bomber.

The SPC Corporation provides flight termination systems and command transmitter systems, the technology that allows planes to be remote controlled should the pilots be incapacitated or the plane hijacked.

System Planning Corp possesses technology that can convert just about any aircraft produced in the US into a remote control variant and have it able to follow commands from the air or ground by their embedded software .

Nuff said.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Maybe you choose to ignore this?

That we spy on Israel? Why would you assume that I am "ignoring" that? Of course we do! We spy on them, they spy on us, everyone spies on everyone. That is a different topic, however.

 

[nik141993]

That we spy on Israel? Why would you assume that I am "ignoring" that? Of course we do! We spy on them, they spy on us, everyone spies on everyone. That is a different topic, however.

Americans are Apex predator of technology so everything you do arise suspicion ,this could be true or false only God & america knows