The expanding Shiite Crescent

[anonymus]

First of all it does not matter what aircrafts Iran has, do they have spare parts ?

Spares are problem only for F-14's. I have not mentioned them.Russia has not enforced an arm's embargo on Iran.

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Our Problem with Taliban is not that they are superior. If Taliban all gather in one place and declare that they want to fight Pakistan Army, they will be annihilated in few hours. They survive because they blend in with civilians in those areas and we are not ruthless enough to slaughter them at the risk of killing Civilians.

As if a professional army would gather in one place and be slaughtered.

Armies also depend on surprise.

And look at the Map. Your border with Iran is mountainous.

Iran's nightmare is the lack of logistical supplies and spare parts for their air craft. Don't expect them to be heavily equipped. The Omani Air Force along with the UAE will jeopardize the Iranians let alone PAF.

Point was that PAF would suffer significant casualties doing that. Iranian Airforce would eventually be defeated as it is weakest in whole of middle east with only 2 squadron of decent fighters, but pakistan is also not USA which could go Shock and Awe on Iranians.

Pakistanis are inducting an inferior fighter JF-17 because they can't afford F-16's because of bad economy. Their Airforce would further weaken vis-a-vis IAF.

And Chances of Russian jets suffering from spare part problem is low.


And

Frankly he should not have boasted about Navy

 

[KingMamba]

No, Pakistan can't be neutral.

if Saudi Arabia along with terrorists group attack Iran, Pakistan will nuke Saudi Arabia. If Iran with some clowns attack Saudi Arabia, Pakistan will nuke them. And Turkey attack Syria, Pakistan will do same. That's should be new policy of Pakistan to control unstable Middle Eastern and regain their Oils. Problem solved.

I like this policy.

Hey @RazPaK if any leader in Pakistan were to take steps to ban these idiotic practices of self-flagellation do you think they'd be able to do that ?

Twelvers already banned it. A Pakistani leader would have to convince the Aga Khan to promote a fatwa endorsing the ban.

 

[iranigirl2]

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[Pakistanisage]

As if a professional army would gather in one place and be slaughtered.

Armies also depend on surprise.

And look at the Map. Your border with Iran is mountainous.

No Genius, Professional Armies don't try to hide behind Civilians either....

 

[Dillinger]

Spares are problem only for F-14's. I have not mentioned them.Russia has not enforced an arm's embargo on Iran.



As if a professional army would gather in one place and be slaughtered.

Armies also depend on surprise.

And look at the Map. Your border with Iran is mountainous.

Your not getting it completely right here. Comparing performances in conventional warfare and LI-combat is not a really good way to establish anything.

Indeed attacking an entrenched Iran is utter foolishness..and even the Americans with all the firepower they can muster are not too eager for that. On the other hand fighting a short and high intensity conflict would definitely result in a conclusion in Pakistan's favor today wrt to Iran.

There are far too many variable atm..both economies are suffering and not at the top of their game. Most importantly Pakistan and Iran will not enter into hostilities in the near future so all of this becomes academic.

 

[RazPaK]

Hey @RazPaK if any leader in Pakistan were to take steps to ban these idiotic practices of self-flagellation do you think they'd be able to do that ?

It wouldn't be fair to call this practice idiotic.

It's their belief.

And it would be silly to think all Shia do this.


Only some that have very deep beliefs.


Also I know some of the guys in Pakistan do it, to impress the girls from their communities.


To answer your question: No, I don't think so.

 

[Armstrong]

Twelvers already banned it. A Pakistani leader would have to convince the Aga Khan to promote a fatwa endorsing the ban.

Dude the Aghan Khani Ismailis are an extremely progressive & chill lot ! Our Twelvers never got the memo because they still do it every Ashura; I should know some of my best friends are Shiites & they've shown me their backs & their chests.

The good thing is that many don't have a stomach for it & just suffice with slaps to the chest whilst others are even more progressive & take a more symbolic vow instead of any kind of self-flagellation.

 

[KingMamba]

I miss @Rustam.

That guy was too cool.

Coolest Iranian but he was also emotional lol. He spoke much truth though.

 

[Armstrong]

It wouldn't be fair to call this practice idiotic.

It's their belief.

And it would be silly to think all Shia do this.


Only some that have very deep beliefs.


Also I know some of the guys in Pakistan do it, to impress the girls from their communities.


To answer your question: No, I don't think so.

Dude they're slicing up their back-side....I think it would be somewhat natural of me to ask 'Why in God's name do you do that ?'

 

[Edevelop]

Oh shut-up you counterfeit Syed - Don't troll @iranigirl2 !



Aisaa hii haii I mean a Sunni like me & a Shiite like @cb4 can get along very well as brothers !

.... ?

wasay butt are there shia kashmiris ?

 

[iranigirl2]

Dude the Aghan Khani Ismailis are an extremely progressive & chill lot ! Our Twelvers never got the memo because they still do it every Ashura; I should know some of my best friends are Shiites & they've shown me their backs & their chests.

The good thing is that many don't have a stomach for it & just suffice with slaps to the chest whilst others are even more progressive & take a more symbolic vow instead of any kind of self-flagellation.

Self-flagellations are banned in Iran , and 90% of Shias all over the world. don't do it, very tiny minority do it.

Ismailis do it too..

Again, why is it Sunnis business what Shias do??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvZVs-olNaQ

 

[RazPaK]

Coolest Iranian but he was also emotional lol. He spoke much truth though.

There is a big difference between passion and being emotional.

Us Pakistanis are very emotional as well.

That's why Pakistanis are jigri type people. @Rustam was also jigri dost.

 

[KingMamba]

Dude the Aghan Khani Ismailis are an extremely progressive & chill lot ! Our Twelvers never got the memo because they still do it every Ashura; I should know some of my best friends are Shiites & they've shown me their backs & their chests.

The good thing is that many don't have a stomach for it & just suffice with slaps to the chest whilst others are even more progressive & take a more symbolic vow instead of any kind of self-flagellation.

Bro imo ismailis do it more than twelvers, I am 90 percent sure ismailis make up most of Pakistani Shia. Anyway if the Aga Khan could fine the time away from his enormous wealth made off of his sheeple for two minutes to issue a fatwa prohibiting it, it would be much obliged.

 

[Armstrong]

.... ?

wasay butt are there shia kashmiris ?

Shia Kashmiris - Yes !

Shia Buttts - I've yet to hear of one !

 

[KingMamba]

There is a big difference between passion and being emotional.

Us Pakistanis are very emotional as well.

That's why Pakistanis are jigri type people. @Rustam was also jigri dost.

Word you are right. Ask awesome to unban him. xD