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he can be anybody, doesn't matter, what I mean is his nationality.he is certainly not an Indian..he is somebody who is ashamed of his own flag.
yup.most probably,he aint an indian.
Muslims in India are wary of the Mumbai attacks and many have such views. One person was the minorities minister in India. So until you have proof there is no use arguing against someone. IP adresses are tracked on this site. You can't do a mods job.
I agree largely though I also believe we have indeed mixed religion and nationalism. You are a good poster. Stick around here.
There are very few free people in this forum who are not hypnotise and they are not afraid to speakup their mind.You like it or not i don't give a Fcuk.
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you have the right to utter non sense in the name of freedom of speech but you are exposed Mr. false flagr Pakistani.
its non sense for no sense person like you
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Muslims in India are wary of the Mumbai attacks and many have such views. One person was the minorities minister in India. So until you have proof there is no use arguing against someone. IP adresses are tracked on this site. You can't do a mods job.
I agree largely though I also believe we have indeed mixed religion and nationalism. You are a good poster. Stick around here.
Thank you, HaviZ, I'll contribute what little I can.
I can see you position regarding religion and nationalism; I held the same position a while ago but then I noticed something in my culture and Psychology class: religion has been central to cultural identity. As such we cannot eradicate religion as a source of ethnic identity (we Muslims in India saw fellow muslims as one people). This is the base of nationalistic movements and political philosophy (despite the claim of many modernist historians) for example the religious divide amongst Protestants and Catholics catalysed the evolution of European democracy, bureaucracy and even the Industrial development (rise of the non-nobel business class). Yes, Europe spent a lot of time bleeding itself based on religion but the division of identity lead to a much deeper insight which brought emence changes.
I believe we need such a development now a direction that Israel took (Pakistan and Israel are twin nations both founded primarily on the basis of faith) Being mostly Jewish they needed to integrate Jews from diverse backgrounds, just like we Pakistanis had to and still have to do and most importantly to develop a progressive, flexible and sustainable political system which would survive the pressures of a very hegemonous majority yet retain its premise to allow the nation to prosper.
Post 26/11, a section of the Congress leadership was seen playing religious politics after one of its leaders, A R Antulay, implied that Hindutva forces may have been involved in the Mumbai terror attacks, according to a confidential memo by the then US ambassador to India, David Mulford, released by WikiLeaks
Post 26/11, Congress played religious politics: WikiLeaks - Indian Express
We can build a national identity around secular Islam (it should be that way and is in line with Ibn Rushd, Ibn Khaldun and mutazili doctrine) but it is far different to say we want Islam as the system (Wahabism/Shariah) and we made our country to help Muslims and (Goan and Punjabi All) Christians escape persecution in the new state of India. Nationalism separate from religion will deeply help integrate minorities in our country as well.
Nationalism is always pure. It can have Islamic influences and it will as our own Nationalist movement did too due to the right wing and conservative lot but as far as it is concerned religion should be a private business and our job shouldn't be to build mosques or a ministry of Islamic affairs that eats up a huge amount of sums. Every country that has done this (separating religion and Nationalism) has prospered. Our nation is afraid of it. Ireland's GDP per capita was once very similar to ours. Now it has the 17th highest. But that is a separate debate on secularism.
When Indians don't believe it... why should Pakistan. The question does arise. IF HS was guilty he should have been hanged. Accepting responsibility then the courts freeing him means he might have been not guilty.