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The Eight Great Powers of 2017 [IRAN & INDIA]

Iran isn't a power and it surely isn't stronger than Israel, France, the UK and China&Japan are not stronger than Russia.
Sentiments do not change reality. I think Iran has proved itself a power. Despite sanctions for such a long time this nation has not only survived without surrendering, but also excelled in many fields which even developed countries are still struggling for. IMO Iranians have proved themselves to be a strong nation.

UK , France are Missing. Both these nations are powerful enough to be on the list.

My List :

1. USA
2. China
3. Germany
4. Russia
5. Japan
6. France
7. UK
8. India
9. Israel
10. Iran / Saudi Arabia
Sand is slipping from the hands of both these countries. With the latest developments in USA, it will not be surprising to see its name struck out from the list.
 
Best toys? Is that what jelousy can do? Our air force has been given us the upper hand in Yemen war and cause the death of thousands of your pupets "houthi zoroastrians".
Yes, I don't deny it gave you upper hand in killing defenceless people. But then what? Houthies are still there now shooting missiles at you. And the cost of the war is already breaking the back of your economy. No strategic achievement so far.
 
Lmao. :rofl:. I have seen it all on PDF. :pdf:
@waz ,@Arefin007 ,@Blue Marlin ,@Steve781 ,@Vergennes
:sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:
Without UK this world is boring , there will be nothing for laughter
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Trident whistleblower tells RT he ‘witnessed 4 unreported missile test failures’
Published time: 24 Jan, 2017 17:17Edited time: 25 Jan, 2017 13:44
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Trident Nuclear Submarine, HMS Victorious © Andy Buchanan / Reuters
dossier highlighting a range of safety and security failures aboard Trident submarines in May 2015 – more than a year before the latest mishap.

Read more
EXCLUSIVE: Trident renewal ‘assures Scottish independence,’ says navy whistleblower William McNeilly
The Royal Navy submariner was detained and quietly discharged in June of that year. Senior officers even sought to discredit McNeilly’s claims by portraying him as an ill-informed junior sailor.

Speaking exclusively to RT on Tuesday, McNeilly said he now feels vindicated.

I warned about this exact event over a year before it happened. I was in the MCC / Missile Control Center during the end of patrol tests in early 2015 and I witnessed with my own eyes the Trident system fail its simulated missile launch tests.

McNeilly claims to have seen Trident “fail 3 out of 3 WP 186 Missile Compensating Tests” first-hand. He also says a “Battle Readiness Test (BRT) was not even attempted due to seawater in the hydraulic system.”

The whistleblower’s comments come a day after the British government faced questions over a misfire incident that occurred in June of 2016, just weeks before a crucial Parliamentary vote on Trident’s renewal. The US government apparently requested that news of the defective missile be kept secret to prevent mutual embarrassment.

Citing his extensive technical training as a submarine weapons engineer, McNeilly said it was his job “to learn about missile tests, conduct missile tests, pass tests on missile tests, be in the Missile Control Center during missile tests…

I had missile tests signed off in my task book. They wouldn’t have been signed off in my task book if I didn’t know anything about them, and clearly I was proven to be right.

“The government attempted to cover up the failed missile test and they covered up all the other information in my Trident report.”

Trident dossier
In his 18-page dossier, released to WikiLeaks in May of 2015, McNeilly offered anecdotal evidence of potentially catastrophic failures that took place during a series of end-of-patrol “shakedown” tests, designed to see whether the weapons system “could have performed a successful launch.

It was during one such end-of-patrol test that the June 2016 misfire took place.

Read more
Fallon refuses to explain alleged Trident nuke malfunction, as US officials spill the beans
According to McNeilly, the routine tests are vital to determining “if we really were providing the UK’s strategic nuclear deterrent.

The test McNeilly witnessed was “carried out 3 times and it failed, 3 times.

Basically the test showed that the missile compensation system wouldn’t have compensated for the changes in weight of the submarine during missile launches. Which means the missiles would’ve been launched on an unstable platform, if they decided to launch.

Other readiness exercises carried out at the end of the patrol also went wrong, claims McNeilly.

Another test was the Battle Readiness Test (BRT), which proves that the muzzle hatches could’ve opened whilst on patrol,” said McNeilly, explaining that “the BRT was cancelled due to the main hydraulic system containing mostly seawater instead of actual hydraulic oil.

McNeilly has accused the British government of “endangering the public and spending billions upon billions of taxpayers’ money for a system so broken it can’t even do the tests that prove it works.
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US asked UK to keep failed nuke Trident test secret – report
Published time: 24 Jan, 2017 09:19Edited time: 25 Jan, 2017 13:01
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FILE PHOTO Crew from HMS Vengeance, a British Royal Navy Vanguard class Trident Ballistic Missile Submarine © David Moir / Reuters

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.@CNN's reporting that US officials are explaining what happened #awkwardhttps://www.rt.com/uk/374821-fallon-us-cnn-trident/ …

9:35 PM - 23 Jan 2017

Fallon refuses to explain alleged Trident nuke malfunction, as US officials spill the beans — RT UK
As Defense Secretary Michael Fallon dodged questions in the Commons over a June 2016 nuclear missile incident, US officials appear to have been openly briefing the American press on key details.

rt.com



“It was the [then-President Barack] Obama administration that asked the [then-UK Prime Minister David] Cameron administration not to comment on this,” a source told the paper.

Read more
Whitehall covered up 1st-time failure of Trident ballistic missile test near US coast – report
According to the source, the US administration “may have been worried that there could be similar problems on other missiles.”

“The British submarine successfully carried and launched the missile; the bit that went wrong was the US proprietary technology,” it added.

Responding to questions from Labour and Scottish National Party (SNP) MPs in the House of Commons on Monday, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon repeatedly cited national security concerns to justify his strenuous denials.

While the UK maintains it has operational control of Trident aboard its four nuclear submarines, the missiles are owned by the US and are largely reliant on the Americans for technical support.

The US is likely to have been highly resistant to the idea of sharing news of the defect because Britain's D5 missiles are leased from the same stockpile used by the US military.

The emergency debate on Monday, called by former Labour defense minister Kevan Jones, saw the SNP and some Labour figures launch an offensive over the misfire and apparent cover-up.

In a bizarre twist, MPs pointed out during the debate that while Fallon was refusing to disclose details of the misfire, US officials were openly briefing the American media about the incident.

While the SNP wants nukes removed from Scotland, Labour is split on the issue, with the upper echelons of the party leadership generally opposed to nuclear weapons, while many in the parliamentary party support renewing them.

Both Fallon and Prime Minister Theresa May have issued strenuous denials over the incident. Some attempts have also been made to push blame onto May’s predecessor, David Cameron.

Much of the antagonism centers on how much May knew about the incident before a vital vote on Trident renewal only weeks after the misfire. She confirmed on Monday night that she did know about the incident but failed to disclose the information.

WATCH MORE:


USA to UK :: Hey man for ****'s sake tell us before your missile test on trident, you would screw us with your underwater junks :sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:

UK wanted to destroy USA. The joke of our century

UK is amazing. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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:sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:
Without UK this world is boring , there will be nothing for laughter
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Trident whistleblower tells RT he ‘witnessed 4 unreported missile test failures’
Published time: 24 Jan, 2017 17:17Edited time: 25 Jan, 2017 13:44
Get short URL
58874ee5c4618821038b45a2.jpg

Trident Nuclear Submarine, HMS Victorious © Andy Buchanan / Reuters
dossier highlighting a range of safety and security failures aboard Trident submarines in May 2015 – more than a year before the latest mishap.

Read more
EXCLUSIVE: Trident renewal ‘assures Scottish independence,’ says navy whistleblower William McNeilly
The Royal Navy submariner was detained and quietly discharged in June of that year. Senior officers even sought to discredit McNeilly’s claims by portraying him as an ill-informed junior sailor.

Speaking exclusively to RT on Tuesday, McNeilly said he now feels vindicated.

I warned about this exact event over a year before it happened. I was in the MCC / Missile Control Center during the end of patrol tests in early 2015 and I witnessed with my own eyes the Trident system fail its simulated missile launch tests.

McNeilly claims to have seen Trident “fail 3 out of 3 WP 186 Missile Compensating Tests” first-hand. He also says a “Battle Readiness Test (BRT) was not even attempted due to seawater in the hydraulic system.”

The whistleblower’s comments come a day after the British government faced questions over a misfire incident that occurred in June of 2016, just weeks before a crucial Parliamentary vote on Trident’s renewal. The US government apparently requested that news of the defective missile be kept secret to prevent mutual embarrassment.

Citing his extensive technical training as a submarine weapons engineer, McNeilly said it was his job “to learn about missile tests, conduct missile tests, pass tests on missile tests, be in the Missile Control Center during missile tests…

I had missile tests signed off in my task book. They wouldn’t have been signed off in my task book if I didn’t know anything about them, and clearly I was proven to be right.

“The government attempted to cover up the failed missile test and they covered up all the other information in my Trident report.”

Trident dossier
In his 18-page dossier, released to WikiLeaks in May of 2015, McNeilly offered anecdotal evidence of potentially catastrophic failures that took place during a series of end-of-patrol “shakedown” tests, designed to see whether the weapons system “could have performed a successful launch.

It was during one such end-of-patrol test that the June 2016 misfire took place.

Read more
Fallon refuses to explain alleged Trident nuke malfunction, as US officials spill the beans
According to McNeilly, the routine tests are vital to determining “if we really were providing the UK’s strategic nuclear deterrent.

The test McNeilly witnessed was “carried out 3 times and it failed, 3 times.

Basically the test showed that the missile compensation system wouldn’t have compensated for the changes in weight of the submarine during missile launches. Which means the missiles would’ve been launched on an unstable platform, if they decided to launch.

Other readiness exercises carried out at the end of the patrol also went wrong, claims McNeilly.

Another test was the Battle Readiness Test (BRT), which proves that the muzzle hatches could’ve opened whilst on patrol,” said McNeilly, explaining that “the BRT was cancelled due to the main hydraulic system containing mostly seawater instead of actual hydraulic oil.

McNeilly has accused the British government of “endangering the public and spending billions upon billions of taxpayers’ money for a system so broken it can’t even do the tests that prove it works.
--------------------------------------------------------------*********************************************
US asked UK to keep failed nuke Trident test secret – report
Published time: 24 Jan, 2017 09:19Edited time: 25 Jan, 2017 13:01
Get short URL
58871baac36188942a8b45a7.jpg

FILE PHOTO Crew from HMS Vengeance, a British Royal Navy Vanguard class Trident Ballistic Missile Submarine © David Moir / Reuters

Follow
RT UK

✔@RTUKnews

.@CNN's reporting that US officials are explaining what happened #awkwardhttps://www.rt.com/uk/374821-fallon-us-cnn-trident/ …

9:35 PM - 23 Jan 2017

Fallon refuses to explain alleged Trident nuke malfunction, as US officials spill the beans — RT UK
As Defense Secretary Michael Fallon dodged questions in the Commons over a June 2016 nuclear missile incident, US officials appear to have been openly briefing the American press on key details.

rt.com



“It was the [then-President Barack] Obama administration that asked the [then-UK Prime Minister David] Cameron administration not to comment on this,” a source told the paper.

Read more
Whitehall covered up 1st-time failure of Trident ballistic missile test near US coast – report
According to the source, the US administration “may have been worried that there could be similar problems on other missiles.”

“The British submarine successfully carried and launched the missile; the bit that went wrong was the US proprietary technology,” it added.

Responding to questions from Labour and Scottish National Party (SNP) MPs in the House of Commons on Monday, Defence Secretary Michael Fallon repeatedly cited national security concerns to justify his strenuous denials.

While the UK maintains it has operational control of Trident aboard its four nuclear submarines, the missiles are owned by the US and are largely reliant on the Americans for technical support.

The US is likely to have been highly resistant to the idea of sharing news of the defect because Britain's D5 missiles are leased from the same stockpile used by the US military.

The emergency debate on Monday, called by former Labour defense minister Kevan Jones, saw the SNP and some Labour figures launch an offensive over the misfire and apparent cover-up.

In a bizarre twist, MPs pointed out during the debate that while Fallon was refusing to disclose details of the misfire, US officials were openly briefing the American media about the incident.

While the SNP wants nukes removed from Scotland, Labour is split on the issue, with the upper echelons of the party leadership generally opposed to nuclear weapons, while many in the parliamentary party support renewing them.

Both Fallon and Prime Minister Theresa May have issued strenuous denials over the incident. Some attempts have also been made to push blame onto May’s predecessor, David Cameron.

Much of the antagonism centers on how much May knew about the incident before a vital vote on Trident renewal only weeks after the misfire. She confirmed on Monday night that she did know about the incident but failed to disclose the information.

WATCH MORE:


USA to UK :: Hey man for ****'s sake tell us before your missile test on trident, you would screw us with your underwater junks :sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic::sarcastic:

UK wanted to destroy USA. The joke of our century

UK is amazing. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
So you Iranians are really serious ??:rofl:
The mullahs seem to have done irreparable brainwashing to some of you people. Talk of "Islamic Revolution" indeed. :omghaha:.

The last bit of real major influence Britain had, which was its powerful position in the EU, will soon be gone as well.
Yes I know, superpower Iran. :lol:. Hopefully your mullahs will spare us. :rofl:
 
So you Iranians are really serious ??:rofl:
The mullahs seem to have done irreparable brainwashing to some of you people. Talk of "Islamic Revolution" indeed. :omghaha:.
:agree: Your missiles were aimed at USA before Theresa May's visit to USA. Don'y you think that i am a fool kid!
What are you thinking of right now? Trump will get frightened of your sinking junks? hu? Monk!!!
 
Yes I know, superpower Iran. :lol:. Hopefully your mullahs will spare us. :rofl:
I didn't say that. Iran is a regional power, and soon Britain won't even be a regional power. The dominant power in Europe is Germany, and with Brexit they will only get stronger.
 
I didn't say that. Iran is a regional power, and soon Britain won't even be a regional power. The dominant power in Europe is Germany, and with Brexit they will only get stronger.
Cannot agree with you Amir dadash.
Germany would lose one of it's major enslaved markets if Brexit works well. UK is Germany's backyard for it's trade marks
 
Sentiments do not change reality. I think Iran has proved itself a power. Despite sanctions for such a long time this nation has not only survived without surrendering, but also excelled in many fields which even developed countries are still struggling for. IMO Iranians have proved themselves to be a strong nation.


Sand is slipping from the hands of both these countries. With the latest developments in USA, it will not be surprising to see its name struck out from the list.
Are you kidding me? in what field did you excel? You didn't manage to even bypass North Korea which has even tougher sanctions against it.
 
So you Iranians are really serious ??:rofl:
The mullahs seem to have done irreparable brainwashing to some of you people. Talk of "Islamic Revolution" indeed. :omghaha:.


Yes I know, superpower Iran. :lol:. Hopefully your mullahs will spare us. :rofl:
what joke . England , fools think by saying mullahs England problems going go way ....
 
Actually it has done it several times:

1- How about changing Israel's behaviour for one? I have not heard any rhetoric about pre-emptive strikes recently.
2- How about Syria? At the beginning it was only Iran who said Assad must stay while rest of the world said he must go. And for your information, Iran convinced Russia to interfere and now both are benefiting from it
3- Iraq, Iran turned Iraq into an ally despite US being there having troops on the ground
4- Lebanon, while KSA was trying to buy influence but eventually a pro-Iranian government was elected.

Iran has dealt with each challenge successfully and come out stronger than before. The very fact that right now KSA and Israel are sending each other love letters is another proof of Iran's increasing power and influence.

And for your information, Russia is the last country we can call brother but both nations are wise enough to know when they should join efforts which is another example of playing your cards wisely.

Finally, staying in within your own air space and throwing stones at the other side is not exactly what Russia warned about. If you think Russia doesn't dare to shoot down your jets, then you are dreaming. Their ultimatum was meant for US and effectively marginalized their air force which is a tactical victory. What would Russia achieve by doing the same to Israel? They just don't feel threatened by Israel!
You have never changed Israel's behavior, it has always been bombing anything that threatens us.

You and Russia claimed that if we will bomb (And anyone else) Assad they will respond.
Not only we bombed Assad, we bombed Iranian generals along with Hezbollah members and Syrian generals, and guess what? Neither Hezbollah, Syria or Russia did anything against Israel.

No one is afraid of Iran, neither Russia, and the bombing of Assad has never stopped because of them.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.756132

https://www.rt.com/news/373522-syria-army-base-bombed-israel/

https://www.ft.com/content/8d08632a-bc65-11e6-8b45-b8b81dd5d080

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/223285

I didn't see Russia or Iran respond. You're weak.
 

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