The China Navy Third Fleet Carrier Battle Group Named PLANS FUJIAN 福建舰 (CVBG-18) Officially Launched !

[FuturePAF]

There is someone make calculations based on photos of Draft CVBG-18
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12-13 meters of draft and 80,000 tons of full displacement?
Wait, the official Chinese media say it is more than 80,000 tons.

“300*40*12.5*0.6*1.025=92,250="80,000+"

Well, they are right.

Full-load Displacement probably in the range of 92,000 Tonnes

It’s possible if the next carrier is a modified version of the Type 003, with an additional elevator (approx. 120 tons on a US carrier), catapult, and the required modification to the port side to accommodate them could eventually push the weight to over 100,000 tons.

 

[帅的一匹]

It’s possible if the next carrier is a modified version of the Type 003, with an additional elevator (approx. 120 tons on a US carrier), catapult, and the required modification to the port side to accommodate them could eventually push the weight to over 100,000 tons.

Then it will be type 004

 

[rott]

004 is nuclear power, 003 is not. 005 will be the most powerful aircraft carrier on earth.

Bro, don't make up stories until it comes true. Even I would like 005 to become the most powerful carrier on earth but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

 

[maverick1977]

What the tonnage of these 003 and 004... and how many aircrafts ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

004 is nuclear power, 003 is not. 005 will be the most powerful aircraft carrier on earth.

You will be surprised by this.

https://www.douyin.com/video/7111702562969095459

 

[Daniel808]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1538937634143322112

What the tonnage of these 003 and 004... and how many aircrafts ?

There is someone make calculations based on photos of Draft CVBG-18

12-13 meters of draft and 80,000 tons of full displacement?
Wait, the official Chinese media say it is more than 80,000 tons.

“300*40*12.5*0.6*1.025=92,250="80,000+"

Well, they are right.

Full-load Displacement probably in the range of 92,000-95,000 Tonnes.


For Type 004 CVN, current estimation. Over 110,000 Tonnes

 

[Beast]

It’s possible if the next carrier is a modified version of the Type 003, with an additional elevator (approx. 120 tons on a US carrier), catapult, and the required modification to the port side to accommodate them could eventually push the weight to over 100,000 tons.

Additional elevator is not needed. China aircraft carrier experience tells them, more previous deck space is needed instead of more elevator. That is why only 2 elevator are build into it. Fujian 2 elevator are huge. Each can accommodate 2 J-15.

Next aircraft carrier will still stick with 2 elevator while more precious deck space so more available and ready aircraft can park on top and launch anytime.

 

[Daniel808]

Additional elevator is not needed. China aircraft carrier experience tells them, more previous deck space is needed instead of more elevator. That is why only 2 elevator are build into it. Fujian 2 elevator are huge. Each can accommodate 2 J-15.

Next aircraft carrier will still stick with 2 elevator while more precious deck space so more available and ready aircraft can park on top and launch anytime.

Regarding the Catapults also.

Regarding the number of catapult on 003 being 3 instead of 4 as USN, here is a research paper from 2016 by China Ship Development and Design Center. Title "基于闭排队网络的弹射器数量配置方法"/"Method of the catapult quantity deployed by using closed queuing network"

Here is the conclusion,
Based on data from Nimitz 1917 high tempo exercise, the research concludes that 2 catapults are enough.

From table 2 and the diagrams, it can be seen that only when T_launch=6min, 2 catapults will be close to 100% used which is too much. In all other cases, there is enough margins. This means 2 is the minimum and runs some risk of overloading the catapult. 3 is as good as 4. 4's redundancy advantage then 3 is visible but insignificant.

 

[FuturePAF]

Additional elevator is not needed. China aircraft carrier experience tells them, more previous deck space is needed instead of more elevator. That is why only 2 elevator are build into it. Fujian 2 elevator are huge. Each can accommodate 2 J-15.

Next aircraft carrier will still stick with 2 elevator while more precious deck space so more available and ready aircraft can park on top and launch anytime.

Won’t having only two elevators on the same side of the carrier, which also is the same side that holds the Island, make the carrier vulnerable if something should happen to that side of the ship?

Also, any plans to add a 4th catapult?

 

[Beast]

Regarding the Catapults also.

Regarding the number of catapult on 003 being 3 instead of 4 as USN, here is a research paper from 2016 by China Ship Development and Design Center. Title "基于闭排队网络的弹射器数量配置方法"/"Method of the catapult quantity deployed by using closed queuing network"

Here is the conclusion,
Based on data from Nimitz 1917 high tempo exercise, the research concludes that 2 catapults are enough.

From table 2 and the diagrams, it can be seen that only when T_launch=6min, 2 catapults will be close to 100% used which is too much. In all other cases, there is enough margins. This means 2 is the minimum and runs some risk of overloading the catapult. 3 is as good as 4. 4's redundancy advantage then 3 is visible but insignificant.

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Next aircraft carrier will be still 3 catapult and 2 elevator. There are simply too many fabricated news floating around try to misled reader thinking China Fujian aircraft carrier got some deficiency with 2 elevator and 3 catapults.

They are simply jealous of China more mature and success MVDC EMAL catapult.

Won’t having only two elevators on the same side of the carrier, which also is the same side that holds the Island, make the carrier vulnerable if something should happen to that side of the ship?

Also, any plans to add a 4th catapult?

No, this setup will be the standard for more carrier to follow. What do u mean by same side? It got to do with your ship design, weighting to balance the whole ship.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

After ten years, 001 and 002 can be sold to other countries, and 003 should be modified to replace conventional power with nuclear power

The Type 003 was already towed near the boiler room to activate its two fast-neutron reactors which will serve as its main source of power.

And the QC-280 gas turbines are its auxiliary power.

What the tonnage of these 003 and 004... and how many aircrafts ?

100,000 tonnes for Type 003

120,000 tonnes for Type 004

 

[casual]

The Type 003 was already towed near the boiler room to activate its two fast-neutron reactors which will serve as its main source of power.

And the QC-280 gas turbines are its auxiliary power.



100,000 tonnes for Type 003

120,000 tonnes for Type 004

003 has been officially confirmed to be 80,000 tonnes

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

003 has been officially confirmed to be 80,000 tonnes

Just like the Type 002 has been officially confirmed to be 50,000 tonnes.

But we all know that the Type 002 is 65,000 tonnes full load in fact.

 

[Super Falcon]

Now china can checkmate USA even in Pacific which was consider safe by USA after WW 2

China will put one aircraft carrier operational near to USA coast to make USA feel it's not safe any more

Just like the Type 002 has been officially confirmed to be 50,000 tonnes.

But we all know that the Type 002 is 65,000 tonnes full load in fact.

It's not 65000 ton it's full tonnage is 100000 tons sir

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Now china can checkmate USA even in Pacific which was consider safe by USA after WW 2

China will put one aircraft carrier operational near to USA coast to make USA feel it's not safe any more


It's not 65000 ton it's full tonnage is 100000 tons sir

Type 002: standard - 50,000 tonnes, full - 65,000 tonnes

Type 003: standard - 80,000 tonnes, full - 100,000 tonnes