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overall the terroist attck was successful in its objective to cause mass causalities and they did that 23 PAF employees is big target
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a weak spot is plcae where people gather, the mosque should have been more secure loation. this is happening again and again . better planning is needed, even now multiple bases have next to zerp security besides a boundary wall. we need better tech
But u cant deny that all the military bases that were attacked in the past including karachi airport,we had security lapses. Forget abt any impending attack alerts.the kind of security measures that need to be in place at these places were missing.I read your full post and retracted the snarl of a response . I think we all have to understand the difficult task facing the ISI. They get hundreds of reports of impending attacks but how do you determine which one to act upon. The resources are limited and you can only do so much. There maybe a lot of "daikha jaiga jee" which is inherent in our mindset. While agreeing that the mindset needs to change softer targets will always remain vulnerable as army cannot be every where. These are difficult times and difficult decisions sometimes have to be made.
Analyse any event in history and you will see a clear trend of evid3nce pointing to the event. Why was it not acted upon is sometimes the negligence of one person, or the simple case of distribution of resources to guard the hard targets. N9thing is ever perfect with a retrospectoscope. We are in a state of war and losses though regetful will happen. This is the ground reality.
As to candies you can send them to @ jaibi. Iam sure he will be very pleased to receive them. I am not at the candy eating stage now
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Wall is it practical, physically and economically?at the end of the day we can agree on as long as is safe, doesn't matter which approach is used.
Wall is it practical, physically and economically?
Itnay app bengaali baba rehtay nahi
The utilization of available resources is innovation. Everybody can win plenty of resources and man power. England won 2nd World war by bringing in USA and USSR that is diplomacy, strategy planning and innovation. We need to think out of the box!Military is overstretched. You don't have enough resources and manpower
Tranq and shock guns are, overall, ineffective in firefights. Terrorists are often high on drugs as well, so shock guns won't work on them. Also, you need to be close to deploy a stun gun.I dont want to be in power but we should not stuck either
Yes but there are chances they wont and there are shock guns which paralize human fod 5 min
Pakistan Army needs all its resources to fight TTP. They could easily deal with the TTP if only they didn't block all resources on the Eastern front where they want Pakistanis to believe that India is just waiting to pounce on them. Why don't they just let the civilian government handle the peace process with India? Why do they have to insist on fighting an imaginary enemy when their real enemy is very much inside the country?
I read your full post and retracted the snarl of a response . I think we all have to understand the difficult task facing the ISI. They get hundreds of reports of impending attacks but how do you determine which one to act upon. The resources are limited and you can only do so much. There maybe a lot of "daikha jaiga jee" which is inherent in our mindset. While agreeing that the mindset needs to change softer targets will always remain vulnerable as army cannot be every where. These are difficult times and difficult decisions sometimes have to be made.
Analyse any event in history and you will see a clear trend of evid3nce pointing to the event. Why was it not acted upon is sometimes the negligence of one person, or the simple case of distribution of resources to guard the hard targets. N9thing is ever perfect with a retrospectoscope. We are in a state of war and losses though regetful will happen. This is the ground reality.
As to candies you can send them to @ jaibi. Iam sure he will be very pleased to receive them. I am not at the candy eating stage now
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Yes fair enough the security at Karachi and possibly at Kamra was lax and should be accepted as such. There are a myriad of problems one has to accept. Some of them pertain to perceptions others due to cold hard facts. We are very reactive as a nation and inspite of attacks on Musharraf no one latched on to the fact that the air bases could be a target. So Karachi happened and then we still are in a state of confusion about Kamra. However we lost 2 platforms at karachi and one more at Kamra. So from that point of view this was sloppy piece of work. Kamra given the official version maybe defendable but Karachi certainly not. We dont have the money to build high walls around each and evey base. Other than the time taken the money remains a problem.All the chiefs and PMs cars would probably not be worth more than a 20 foot high wall around a couple of bases if not one. Obviously we need to find resources but traditionally mosques have been open areas utilized by all and sundry. We may have to rethink and replan our strategy butthen what do you do to schools. The problem 9f deal8ng with vermin is they will not stop at anything. You may wall up all the bases but the masses will still remain insecure as by their warped logic anyone remotely related to the forces is a genuine target. So where do we go. The sort of planning and execution should have been done from 2001 but no one believed the war will come back to haunt us. However we need to plan for the future and inspite of all the speed there wont be perimeter walls around all the bases 8n all the towns and around all the Garrisons.But u cant deny that all the military bases that were attacked in the past including karachi airport,we had security lapses. Forget abt any impending attack alerts.the kind of security measures that need to be in place at these places were missing.
I wud any given day excuse lack of security at badaber camp but rest..can we?
world 5th largest army is over stretched. we have over a million troops, counting the paramilitery!Military is overstretched. You don't have enough resources and manpower