Tempest | the UK's Next Generation Fighter | Updates & Discussions

[INS_Vikrant]

It also don't have the expertise to make a good jet engine.

What? Their Jet Engine tech is 2nd best in the world only behind US.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

What? Their Jet Engine tech is 2nd best in the world only behind US.

EJ200 is mostly German engineering. The UK cannot make a sufficiently good jet engine by itself.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Inside the £2.4bn effort to hand British stealth fighter pilots the advantage in future wars

Behind 30-foot metal doors, Leonardo is testing the next generation in enemy detection

www.telegraph.co.uk

A precursor for the radar for Tempest. ( * If * Turkey is serious about buying the Eurofighter from the UK then it should look to make sure this upgrade is on the path/available for them in the near future )..

 

[Ali_Baba]

Tempest formally announced with equal partners of Italy and Japan at a goverment level as investors and technology developers.

UK, Italy and Japan team up for new fighter jet

The countries enter a joint venture to design and build the next generation of fighter aircraft.

www.bbc.co.uk

Move over, Tempest: Japan pact takes UK-Italy fighter plan ‘global’

The Global Combat Air Programme envisions fielding a 6th-generation fighter aircraft by 2035, merging the Europeans' work on Tempest and Japan's F-X plans.

www.defensenews.com

Really nice write up here : https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...l-be-developed-jointly-by-japan-britain-italy

Whatever the next steps look like, the British government projects that the new fighter jet should enter full-scale development in 2025, with a demonstrator making its first flight by 2027.

 

[Indos]

Tempest formally announced with equal partners of Italy and Japan at a goverment level as investors and technology developers.

UK, Italy and Japan team up for new fighter jet

The countries enter a joint venture to design and build the next generation of fighter aircraft.

www.bbc.co.uk

Move over, Tempest: Japan pact takes UK-Italy fighter plan ‘global’

The Global Combat Air Programme envisions fielding a 6th-generation fighter aircraft by 2035, merging the Europeans' work on Tempest and Japan's F-X plans.

www.defensenews.com

Really nice write up here : https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...l-be-developed-jointly-by-japan-britain-italy

Entering full development in 2025 and hoping to have first flight in 2027 is absurd.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Entering full development in 2025 and hoping to have first flight in 2027 is absurd.

Why is that absurd ? I am kind of curious why you think that ?

Given the pedigree of BAe and aerospace technology in the UK and the work done to date already - i think it is more than capable. Just look at the timeline of the EAP programme that BAe did before it became "Euro"fighter ...

 

[Ali_Baba]

Storming ahead: why one company is recruiting thousands to prepare Britain for take-off - The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[Sinnerman108]

Apparently this is the UK's latest creation of it's next generation fighter, the Tempest.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1018814556834074624

That resembles the checkmate russian design.

 

[Gomig-21]

That resembles the checkmate russian design.

Indeed. I still thinkthat is you;re not goingto invorpoateandyhorizinatan certicazers, that means really the cantedreddervaters need to slope quite a but more and I'm not really pulling this stuff outof my rear end lol. The example I use is the vertitable YF-23 which we saw fly and roll and spin and upright instantly and make all kinds of maneuvers. Now you know that was wind tunnel tested to the maximum and performed exceptionally well.

We don't have any into on this or the Checmate, both of which show not so low ruddervaders so will they work well or will they end up lowering them like the WF-23".

This is probably the best pic I coud of how lowthey are. The straight forward picsdon't do them justce.

The checkmate and Tempest are almost the same as the F-18, sort of between the horizontal and vertical stabilizers or somewhere right tin the middle. I think most of the time, the aircraft use them H-stabs for takeoffs, roll and spin with ailerons etc. Not sure but I bet they'll change those on both aircraft both test flight or even just wind tunnel and find out they aren't working well enough.

I guess we'll have to see. What's your opinion on that specific matter besides the resemblance of the aircraft themselves,

 

[Ali_Baba]

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YF23 is such a beautiful plane !!!!! the rear of that plane looks perfect ! ..

 

[Ali_Baba]

Why Japan Chose Britain and Italy for Its F-X Fighter Program

5 reasons why Japan decided to jointly develop a next-generation fighter with the U.K. and Italy, not the U.S.

thediplomat.com

Japan, UK to Push Forward With Joint New Air-to-Air Missile Co-development

The new Truss government in London is likely to upgrade the current partnership to quasi-alliance status.

thediplomat.com

Japan, UK to Collaborate on Future Fighter Sensor Development

The deal is just the latest in a string of defense projects undertaken by the “quasi-alliance.”

thediplomat.com

UK and Japan Reach New Defense Deal Amid Russia Concerns

Japanese Prime Minister Kishida’s visit to the U.K. resulted in a new security deal, adding to Japan’s growing collection.

thediplomat.com

>> there was so much that the UK and Japan were doing together - it made alot of sense for Japan and the UK to combine their programmes...

 

[Indos]

Why Japan Chose Britain and Italy for Its F-X Fighter Program

5 reasons why Japan decided to jointly develop a next-generation fighter with the U.K. and Italy, not the U.S.

thediplomat.com

Japan, UK to Push Forward With Joint New Air-to-Air Missile Co-development

The new Truss government in London is likely to upgrade the current partnership to quasi-alliance status.

thediplomat.com

Japan, UK to Collaborate on Future Fighter Sensor Development

The deal is just the latest in a string of defense projects undertaken by the “quasi-alliance.”

thediplomat.com

UK and Japan Reach New Defense Deal Amid Russia Concerns

Japanese Prime Minister Kishida’s visit to the U.K. resulted in a new security deal, adding to Japan’s growing collection.

thediplomat.com

>> there was so much that the UK and Japan were doing together - it made alot of sense for Japan and the UK to combine their programmes...

Bro, can you confirm this news using Britain media source ?

Sub-systems of GCAP will be offered to India’s AMCA Program – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

 

[Ali_Baba]

Bro, can you confirm this news using Britain media source ?

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Sub-systems of GCAP will be offered to India’s AMCA Program – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

I have seen iterations of this report - yes - with India mentioned aswell but not so the other countries. The UK tends to see to all who want it - so if Indonesia were to make a request - it will be positively entertained for sure. Taiwan is a stretch (imho ) but the world is changing quickly and Tempest would fit their requirements being an island entity like the UK with similar performance requirements - aswell as Japan and Australia(which is not mentioned in the above extract - but i do see them jumping onboard once the platform is available due to similar requirements.).

Interesting video on 6th Gen.

 

[Ali_Baba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1635837885357375490

from @Indos on other thread

 

[Ali_Baba]

Britain's 'world-leading' next-generation Tempest fighter jets programme gets £650m boost​

Britain's 'world-leading' fighter jets programme gets £650m boost

The Defence Secretary said the Tempest would protect the UK's skies "for decades to come".

www.express.co.uk

>> With each step - it is becoming more real.