Tejas(LCA)- Setting the record straight

[Bullhead]

LCA-Tejas completed the 1216 Test Flights. (21-Oct-09)

Flight Test News

 

[gogbot]

Well done post. Easy readability!

Thanks Sino

I have been trying to improve my typing and post readability.

 

[tomluter]

LCA will be a Indian historical poetry.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Yes, It's better to be late then inducting a jet without testing whether it could fire accurately or not

What have u tested for LCA, One Astra ,One R-73, Under powered Kaveri,
& 1000 Tests Flights, thats it

JF-17 is junk according to Indians but Still Indians cried so much over RD-93 tsk tsk Sad na

 

[Novice09]

What have u tested for LCA, One Astra ,One R-73, Under powered Kaveri,& 1000 Tests Flights, thats it

JF-17 is junk according to Indians but Still Indians cried so much over RD-93 tsk tsk Sad na

Oh Yes that's it and still under trials... Happy. can you provide such list for JF 17 and please don't include dumb bombs in that list.

Just to clarify JF 17 is not a junk but yes it is inducted into PAF without proper and complete testing.

 

[grey boy 2]

Oh Yes that's it and still under trials... Happy. can you provide such list for JF 17 and please don't include dumb bombs in that list.

Just to clarify JF 17 is not a junk but yes it is inducted into PAF without proper and complete testing.

How do you know JF 17 is inducted in PAF without proper and

complete testing ? How many test for a plane to qualifly as complete

testing ? can you provide LINK to back up your claim ?

 

[Novice09]

How do you know JF 17 is inducted in PAF without proper and

complete testing ? How many test for a plane to qualifly as complete

testing ? can you provide LINK to back up your claim ?

If you think that complete testing includes weapon testing then kindly provide me a link where I can see and read about it because I can find the list of armament which can be integrated with JF17 but not of those which are tested on it. Else, for me it's inducted without proper testing.

 

[grey boy 2]

If you think that complete testing includes weapon testing then kindly provide me a link where I can see and read about it because I can find the list of armament which can be integrated with JF17 but not of those which are tested on it. Else, for me it's inducted without proper testing.

Well, that just proved you like to shoot trash without any back up.

Really nice way to debate, congratulation !

It will be the same case , i accuse you being a gay, and i demand you

to prove me wrong, otherwise for me you still a gay. Reasonable ?

 

[Patriot]

If you think that complete testing includes weapon testing then kindly provide me a link where I can see and read about it because I can find the list of armament which can be integrated with JF17 but not of those which are tested on it. Else, for me it's inducted without proper testing.

Yep!! You got that right.You should continue to believe that.It is better if Indians continue to assume that PAF is being run by 2 year old cyber kids!!

 

[Brown]

As far as I know there are three things going into making new air crafts in India and LCA has happens to be one.

First is to Induct 4+ generation air craft in medium term which is currently under way with 126 air crafts with 10 billion order.
As per terms of the tender, the IAF will acquire 18 aircraft in fly-away condition, with the rest being manufactured by HAL under a technology transfer deal. This technology transfer only happen if winning contender country agrees for it this transfer to happen and all contenders agreed. But need to see if there countries agrees most likely favorable tender came from Boeing which said it will manufacture them in india with technology transfor to
Indian companies as it expects Indian market needs over 1000 civilion air crafts and over 500 fighter air crafts.
Indian MRCA competition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Second is to develop 5 generation aircraft along with Russians by 2015.Gaining from confidence after BRAMOS success with joint collaboration. Russians again has extended there hand for this.
domain-b.com : Indo-Russian fifth generation fighter aircraft to fly by 2015

most likely scenario is governament likely to get Boeing into India with this 10 billion order as there are more intersted than others and they say there see long term market Indian.
And then with Russian on 5th generation aircraft with Russians so that we still have there trust.

Still I am not aware of future of LCA but i think it should be some where middle of above two or use technology gained from above two in LCA .

I am sure from above Indian air force to be in great shape in 6 years to come

 

[k7x]

I am still not sure why Pakistani Friedns and Chinese friends are so unhappy about LCA.

1. Its a RSS FBW fighter ; and JF17 is not - so it should take less time. Name one another mordern fighter without relaxed static stablity developed after 1980 and your answer is JF17...... nothing else.

2.JF 17 has 7 hard points where as LCA has 8; and clear advantage.

3. LCA planned payload is 4000 Kg where as JF17 it is 3500 kg

5.LCA two seat trainer is under development and it has completed taxi trail.. JF17 trainer is still in paper

6. LCA navy is under construction ; JF17 no plans

7. LCA will be converted to UAV as per HAL project director stament .JF17 no plans

what else..

Inidia is aiming to get a lot out of single project...

Usain Bolt ; the fastest runner in the world would have fallen when he was an baby trying to take first setp. He might have taken a long time to take it. but look at him now..

similarly every things in the world take time.


One saying in Tamil (south indian Language) "thungravana ezupalam thungramathri nadipavana ezupamudiyathu" which means you can wake up some one sleeping and and not some one who is pretending to be sleeping...


go on guys keep on denying .....

 

[DaRk WaVe]

I am still not sure why Pakistani Friedns and Chinese friends are so unhappy about LCA.

No one is unhappy coz of LCA, Actually we are happy

2.JF 17 has 7 hard points where as LCA has 8; and clear advantage.

What a decisive advantage Ohh my God, Where is my Inhaler
btw Rafale & EF have got more hard points, Why are u comparing them

3. LCA planned payload is 4000 Kg where as JF17 it is 3500 kg

Even Rafale & EF has got More Payload, Pay Load difference of 500 Kg not that much of a Advantage

5.LCA two seat trainer is under development and it has completed taxi trail.. JF17 trainer is still in paper

Ok, Done, Agreed

6. LCA navy is under construction ; JF17 no plans

We Don't NEED a naval Version, Simple as that

7. LCA will be converted to UAV as per HAL project director stament .JF17 no plans

As per HAl, LCA was to inducted long time ago
Ever heard of Falco UAV

 

[RPK]

LCA has inflight refuling pod But Jf 17 dont have as of now

 

[DaRk WaVe]

i every one knows that PAK always buys(missiles,fighters, submarines, missiles..) not like india which has indegenious programmes(with some assisstance with foreign help)

Show ur real Face Troll

Guess who's one of the Biggest Buyer of Foreign Arms

 

[ejaz007]

Great post gogbot

People keeps crying about cost over runs, I want them to name a 4+ gen fighter jet which haven't faced this issue. Tejas is a FJ program which will help India to strengthen their aviation industry.

On top of that who think that it is a failure... keep in mind that we are going to replace MIG-21s . We are not going to make Tejas our front line or air dominance fighter, we have MKI for that and MRCA will join the list.

We should really appreciate IAF for the high level of professionalism that they are not inducting this jet in a hurry without proper testing (as done in case of JF 17)

For your information JF-17 has no cost over run issues atatched with it. If you look at the history of Indian defense projects you will notice that there is hardly any project which does not have cost over run issues. You bought aircraft carrier from Russia for 750 million and now it is going to cost you 2.1 billion dollars. What a great cost estimation by the Indians.

IAF has more than 300 Mig-21's. If you are going to replace all with Tejas than you won't have an option other than making it your front line fighter. Off 800 or so fighters you will have 300 fighters of one type. What do you expect to do with them. Use for joy riding.

Yes I do salute IAF professionalism that they have been testing a plan for about a decade and still are not sure what to do with it. Unfortunately PAF has only tested JF-17 for around 2 years and they know the shortcomings of it and are working to fix them. You should continue testing Tejas perhaps one day you would find the faults and fix them