Tejas grounded after snag in landing gear

[Indian Patriot]

Tejas will make mince meat of PLAAF or PAF fighters once they enter Indian skies.

I am talking about reality not fantasy.

Why are you so getting so nervous then, does India have any immediate threat or the sky is falling.

If India does not have immediate threat and the sky is not falling then why the utter desperation to induct a 30 year old obsolete design? And even the induction is doubtful.

The PAF too have yet to replace its old J-7, Q-5, and mirrage 3/5 with jf-17, and Plaaf has to replace its old planes in large number with its j-10B, they too are strugling with the engines and have more worry on their eastern border.

Your comment only shows your ignorance.

These ppl are happy with crappy mig-21's but go ballistic when LCA is mentioned.

LCA is in the same league as Mig-21.

 

[knight11]

If India does not have immediate threat and the sky is not falling then why the utter desperation to induct a 30 year old obsolete design? And even the induction is doubtful.

Obsolete design ? In what sense, either you are ignorant or living in some other world.
Utter desperation ? Desperation for breaking the Import lobby and walk on the self reliance path.
Immediate threat ? Just explain what is the immediate thread from which country which mirrage 2000/2005, mig 29UPG,MKI,mig 21bison, mig 27upg, jaguar upg, mig 29k, Sea harrierUPG could not counter and desperately need 125 new brand fighter plane imediately.

Your comment only shows your ignorance.

Then why don't you enlight me from your radiant thinking and lets check whether our pakistani member too think so !

LCA is in the same league as Mig-21.

Explain it with fact.

1 Engine tech - Fadeec
2 Airframe - Al alloy vs composite
3. Radar - Koprayu (60 km) - El/m- 2052 (100 km)
4 EW suite - russian vs IDAS Mayavi
5. FBW
6. Center fusion
7. Reliability
8. Small takeoff/ landing
9. Aerial Refuel
10. Max weapon load

 

[WaLeEdK2]

It's more than 30 years and the landing isn't working? Please just scrap this junk before it gets a pilot killed.

 

[knight11]

Are you the student of some Madarssa or college. Better chose some decent college.

 

[ramu]

For the love of heavens over your head!!!

Can Tejas stand a chance against Chinese flankers or PAF F-16s? It is an OBSOLETE design not fit for 21st century warfare. The world is moving towards 5th generation stealth aircraft, Newer generation IR-guided and radar guided BVR missiles, AESA etc. What new does LCA bring to the table?

Each aircraft has a purpose and there is no point in matching spec for spec. For a point defense aircraft the most important ability is ability to track and neutralize threats. Remember, today's motor sports have become so good because of car racing duels and competitions such as F1 and more. Having an aircraft in service will give opportunities for innovation. Learning how to service an aircraft is not a science but an art as it is different for each aircraft. This cant be taught. The processes are built overtime. People who know little about product launch and service history can scream about what use LCA is but launch a product in the market that requires periodic service and you will know building it was a lot easier than servicing it for the shear manpower, coordination and effort.

2018 (say)
Imagine a situation where there is a threat to an important installation by enemy aircraft. The airbase with LCA squadrons are informed of incoming threats by early warning radars / other assets. The LCAs let us hope get airborne before the enemy aircraft (s) are a threat. AESA radars are important but not necessary. One SU30 MKI can act as the command and control. LCAs can act as distributed weapons bay. Given that on Indian soil, we will outnumber enemy aircafts, they will be very useful.

2020 (say)
With aerial refueling and AESA, LCA will be potent defense aircrafts with or without external assets. With ingenious missiles and LCA produced in large numbers, imagine the extent of technology and capability that become a part of internal ecosystem.

 

[Indika]

LCA is in the same league as Mig-21.

Better late than never. Soviets started with mig-21 and then moved onto to building advanced aircraft like mig-29,25,35..etc.

Problem is either you are phoren agent or simply dont have understanding about how products are developed. Expecting a superb product in one shot is never possible. Every time you fix a problem you learn something new. These experiences are carried forward to build better systems.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Obsolete design ? In what sense, either you are ignorant or living in some other world.

Maybe in your world stealth technology is yet to exist. Which planet do you live in? I am from planet earth.

Utter desperation ? Desperation for breaking the Import lobby and walk on the self reliance path.

Self-reliance does not mean utter stupidity. If you are so concerned about swadeshi why don't you stop purchasing samsung, sony, audi, mercedes, nikon, apple, microsoft, facebook, mozilla, nestle, imported medicines and many other imported stuff. Why are you so desperate to compromise national security in the name of swadeshi?

Immediate threat ? Just explain what is the immediate thread from which country which mirrage 2000/2005, mig 29UPG,MKI,mig 21bison, mig 27upg, jaguar upg, mig 29k, Sea harrierUPG could not counter and desperately need 125 new brand fighter plane imediately.

Just shows your level of ignorance.

A country builds up its armed forces because of threat perceptions. India did not raise a million strong army because someone randomly came up with the number. Likewise, the air force needs a minimum number of squadrons to meet its threat perception and the current squadron fleet is less and constantly shrinking.

126 Rafale is any day better than 126 pitiable Tejas.

Explain it with fact.

1 Engine tech - Fadeec
2 Airframe - Al alloy vs composite
3. Radar - Koprayu (60 km) - El/m- 2052 (100 km)
4 EW suite - russian vs IDAS Mayavi
5. FBW
6. Center fusion
7. Reliability
8. Small takeoff/ landing
9. Aerial Refuel
10. Max weapon load

You fool, Tejas was conceived as a Mig-21 replacement and nothing else.

What is the range of Tejas and what is its payload? Some Indian retard trollbots would even cheer for any damn thing just to boost their fragile ego.

Are you the student of some Madarssa or college. Better chose some decent college

Don't break rules here kid.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Another 10 years required to fix that problem .

 

[ramu]

It's more than 30 years and the landing isn't working? Please just scrap this junk before it gets a pilot killed.

Another 10 years required to fix that problem .

Give me an example of any engine of bike or car or any automotive that is designed, built and in series production in Pakistan. You have no idea what you are talking about. There is no need to troll this thread with one liners. If you can give me an example of an engine, then I will have some respect. If not, I rest my case.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Each aircraft has a purpose and there is no point in matching spec for spec. For a point defense aircraft the most important ability is ability to track and neutralize threats. Remember, today's motor sports have become so good because of car racing duels and competitions such as F1 and more. Having an aircraft in service will give opportunities for innovation. Learning how to service an aircraft is not a science but an art as it is different for each aircraft. This cant be taught. The processes are built overtime. People who know little about product launch and service history can scream about what use LCA is but launch a product in the market that requires periodic service and you will know building it was a lot easier than servicing it for the shear manpower, coordination and effort.

National security is not selling consumer electronics. If money must be spent then it must be spent on the best equipment instead of going "swadeshi".

AESA radars are important but not necessary

Good heavens!!

Given that on Indian soil, we will outnumber enemy aircafts, they will be very useful.

You are still living in a time when numbers meant everything. Iraq had the numbers in GW1, it did not help them at all.

With ingenious missiles and LCA produced in large numbers, imagine the extent of technology and capability that become a part of internal ecosystem.

Imagination is a fine quality.

 

[ramu]

@indianpatriot, I work for a company that supplies solutions, tools and components for Rolls Royce, Airbus and HAL to name a few. I know what I am talking. What is your background ?

 

[Indika]

You fool, Tejas was conceived as a Mig-21 replacement and nothing else.

As per your argument LCA is a crappy as MIG-21. Now LCA is replacing MIG-21 , so wheres the issue ? Seriously dude you need to change your "indianPatriot" to "phorenpatriot".

 

[Indian Patriot]

Better late than never. Soviets started with mig-21 and then moved onto to building advanced aircraft like mig-29,25,35..etc.

Mig-21 in its time was an advanced aircraft just like the Spitfire in its time was a damn good plane.

Problem is either you are phoren agent or simply dont have understanding about how products are developed.

Problem is retarded trollbots like you are allowed internet access. Anybody who posts something sensible is "phoren agent" for dumb f**s like you.

Expecting a superb product in one shot is never possible. Every time you fix a problem you learn something new. These experiences are carried forward to build better systems.

You are not the pilot sitting in the cockpit and risking your life. It is very easy to sit in an AC room and comment on armed forces "swadeshi movement". Instead of cawing about swadeshi swadeshi first improve your standards.

As per your argument LCA is a crappy as MIG-21. Now LCA is replacing MIG-21 , so wheres the issue ? Seriously dude you need to change your "indianPatriot" to "phorenpatriot"

Your lack of education reeks from your insanely stupid comments.

LCA is not a 21st century design but a moron like you wouldn't know it. The Mig-21s were reaching their end and IAF needed a replacement. LCA is the replacement but in last 30 years aircraft engineering has evolved by leaqps and bounds. LCA is a 3rd generation aircraft and modern jets are going to be 5th gen.

You need to complain to your near and dear ones for failing to properly educate you. By the way the spelling is foreign and not phoren. But then again a dumb dumb like you wouldn't know that either.

 

[ramu]

As per your argument LCA is a crappy as MIG-21. Now LCA is replacing MIG-21 , so wheres the issue ? Seriously dude you need to change your "indianPatriot" to "phorenpatriot".

I think we should wait for him to tell us what is the basis of his arguments. Clearly, he wants to add to the debate but I wonder what makes him take the view he does. If he has subject reasons instead of clear logic then we should just ignore. If he has an open mind, I hope to reason with him. Next couple of posts of nonsense, and I am out.

 

[Indian Patriot]

@indianpatriot, I work for a company that supplies solutions, tools and components for Rolls Royce, Airbus and HAL to name a few. I know what I am talking. What is your background ?

And how is your supposed job in the company making the LCA a better aircraft? Maybe you should improve your work because the LCA simply sucks.


I work for Microsoft as their CEO. I can claim anything I want because this is the internet. So spare me your fake credentials.

Next couple of posts of nonsense, and I am out.

Nonsense is in the day and age of Typhoons, Rafale, F-22, PAK-FA we have morons still alive who believe LCA is a good aircraft. In the era of 5th generation fighters some dumb dumbs are voicing vocal support for a 3rd gen fighter.