Tamil leader becomes opposition leader in Sri Lanka

[Post Colonnial]

Yes. Vigneshawaran elected from Tamil electorate and he's the CM of Nothern province. He's biased towards Tamil sentiments. So claims are not credible.

What can be more credible than the elected leader and constitutional head of the state? Obviously it against SL government interest to admit genocide but when your CM himsels says there's been one, you should investigate it,not deny it blatantly

 

[Godman]

What can be more credible than the elected leader and constitutional head of the state? Obviously it against SL government interest to admit genocide but when your CM himsels says there's been one, you should investigate it,not deny it blatantly

Head of a province but that CM cannot be totally trusted. He won because he contested from the most popular Tamil party but now he is helping much more extremist parties.

civilians died but a "Genocide" is incorrect. Lots of the people died because they were caught in the middle of the fighting.

 

[HeinzG]

What can be more credible than the elected leader and constitutional head of the state? Obviously it against SL government interest to admit genocide but when your CM himsels says there's been one, you should investigate it,not deny it blatantly

Elected leaders of Sinhalese say there was no genocide. So there's no need to investigate anything.

 

[NGV-H]

From his speech he seems like he will carry out his duties with honour, we shall see what becomes of this appointment soon.

 

[samv]

From his speech he seems like he will carry out his duties with honour, we shall see what becomes of this appointment soon.

Honour? I wouldn't count on it.

• Hijacking Sanga's farewell by offering him a post that was rejected by a rejected political candidate. That's a real third class act by the president.
• Sneaking into parliament through the national list several ministers who were rejected by the Sri Lankan electorate. That's a real third class act by the president.
• Appointing his brother to the post of chairman of Sri Lanka Telecom on a whim and then doubling his salary on a whim. That's a real third class act by the president.
• Telling people to vote against the party he belongs to, and against a long standing member of his own party. That's a real third class act by the president.
• Promising his friend and ally that he will never betray him, and then stabbing him in the back the next day. That's a real third class act by the president.
• Using the Financial Crimes Investigation Division (FCID) as a political tool to seek revenge on perceived rivals and intimidate others. That's a real third class act by the president.
• Refusing to properly investigate the biggest fraud to ever hit Sri Lanka - the Central Bank Bond Scam - and letting the criminal go free. That's a real third class act by the president

The list just goes on.

 

[Gibbs]

What can be more credible than the elected leader and constitutional head of the state? Obviously it against SL government interest to admit genocide but when your CM himsels says there's been one, you should investigate it,not deny it blatantly

Politicians make political statements, For various reasons, Some legit some not.. He is not a head of state, He is a chief minister of a province.. There is a huge difference in governance SL is not India, Nor does it have separate states within it's borders

Rest of the Sri Lankan leadership deny genocide, And so does it's majority of people.. And major world powers like US and regional leaders like India.. His own representative party and the largest Tamil party TNA is not uniform or do not accept it as genocide as a whole, War crimes yes

TNA divided over Wigneswaran’s call for genocide probe | SRI TV News

There are resolutions on Genocide in Indian occupied Kashmir and Punjab( Khalistan) as well made by politicians and other non state actors from time to time.. Do you think they're credible ? If not why ?

I'm asking this on the context of alleged genocide claim of yours not to derail the thread. Who decides it's genocide ?

Kashmir Leader To UN: Crimes Of Indian Army Reach Genocidal Proportions | Youth Forum For Kashmir

Khalistan » US Congress

 

[samv]

Politicians make political statements, For various reasons, Some legit some not.. He is not a head of state, He is a chief minister of a province.. There is a huge difference in governance SL is not India, Nor does it have separate states within it's borders

Rest of the Sri Lankan leadership deny genocide, And so does it's majority of people.. And major world powers like US and regional leaders like India.. His own representative party and the largest Tamil party TNA is not uniform or do not accept it as genocide as a whole, War crimes yes

TNA divided over Wigneswaran’s call for genocide probe | SRI TV News

There are resolutions on Genocide in Indian occupied Kashmir and Punjab( Khalistan) as well made by politicians and other non state actors from time to time.. Do you think they're credible ? If not why ?

I'm asking this on the context of alleged genocide claim of yours not to derail the thread. Who decides it's genocide ?

Kashmir Leader To UN: Crimes Of Indian Army Reach Genocidal Proportions | Youth Forum For Kashmir

Khalistan » US Congress

LMAO! The leader of the biggest Tamil party in Sri Lanka who is the leader of the opposition also claims there is a genocide of the Tamil people:

 

[samv]

Chief Minister CV Wigneswaran passes resolution in the Northern Provincial Council demanding international investigations on Genocide

 

[Gibbs]

Oh ok.. why don't you people just see the bigger elephant in the room. If talking about Sinhalese make me a Chauvinist. Why don't you call Sambanthan and Hakeem also Chauvinists?

The issue is people like only looks at the one side of the coin. You people totally forget that there is a another side to the coin too. It maybe because you might loose the argument if you flip the coin.
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You're right 100% i would not argue that people like you and people like Sambandan are the two sides of the same coin and i do not have any qualms about naming Sambandan a LTTE proxy or a Tamil supremacist, Just like how you are a Sinhala chauvinist

Hakeem is more of a third class opportunist than a Muslim nationalist, He does not deserve such a accolade

 

[samv]

You're right 100% i would not argue that people like you and people like Sambandan or Hakeem are the two sides of the same coin and i do not have any qualms about naming Sambandan a LTTE proxy or a Tamil supremacist, Just like how you are a Sinhala chauvinist

Hakeem is more of a third class opportunist that a Muslim nationalist, He does not deserve such a accolade

Call yourself a Burghur Bigot

An LTTE proxy as the leader of Sri Lanka's opposition. Wow nice, that is definitely in Sri Lanka's interests.

 

[Post Colonnial]

Head of a province but that CM cannot be totally trusted. He won because he contested from the most popular Tamil party but now he is helping much more extremist parties.

civilians died but a "Genocide" is incorrect. Lots of the people died because they were caught in the middle of the fighting.

@HeinzG

Both of you accept that a lot of people have died. Mind you I have no sympathy for LTTE or any group that used civilians as human shield etc. Yet, there were a lot Tamil people whose government, the SL government did not protect. Why did the SL govt instead of protecting its Tamil citizens, found it more convenient to adopt the posture of all Tamils must be LTTE or that they can be made collateral damage?

That is why Rajpakshe et al must be investigated.

 

[Godman]

@HeinzG

Both of you accept that a lot of people have died. Mind you I have no sympathy for LTTE or any group that used civilians as human shield etc. Yet, there were a lot Tamil people whose government, the SL government did not protect. Why did the SL govt instead of protecting its Tamil citizens, found it more convenient to adopt the posture of all Tamils must be LTTE or that they can be made collateral damage?

That is why Rajpakshe et al must be investigated.

You have to ask it from many other countries as well.
When the soldiers are being attacked you have to return fire, the military did their best to help injured civilians even airlifting them to Colombo

 

[Post Colonnial]

Politicians make political statements, For various reasons, Some legit some not.. He is not a head of state, He is a chief minister of a province.. There is a huge difference in governance SL is not India, Nor does it have separate states within it's borders

Rest of the Sri Lankan leadership deny genocide, And so does it's majority of people.. And major world powers like US and regional leaders like India.. His own representative party and the largest Tamil party TNA is not uniform or do not accept it as genocide as a whole, War crimes yes

TNA divided over Wigneswaran’s call for genocide probe | SRI TV News

There are resolutions on Genocide in Indian occupied Kashmir and Punjab( Khalistan) as well made by politicians and other non state actors from time to time.. Do you think they're credible ? If not why ?

I'm asking this on the context of alleged genocide claim of yours not to derail the thread. Who decides it's genocide ?

Kashmir Leader To UN: Crimes Of Indian Army Reach Genocidal Proportions | Youth Forum For Kashmir

Khalistan » US Congress

Given the number of deaths and the number of refugees , the investigation is warranted.

IF there are similarly credible genocides anywhere, whether India or the US, yes ofcourse it must be investigated. In the Kashmir example you cite, the equivalent of Wigneswaran will be Mufti Mhd Syed (at present). If he represents nad calls for an investigation, yes absolutely it must be done.

You have to ask it from many other countries as well.
When the soldiers are being attacked you have to return fire, the military did their best to help injured civilians even airlifting them to Colombo

I agree, the soldiers must defend themselves as well. The purpose of the investigation is precisely to distinguish between those incidents where the civilian loss was due to such unavoidable situation vs those where wanton hatred resulted in the atrocities. The latter ones become cause for prosecution.

 

[Godman]

I agree, the soldiers must defend themselves as well. The purpose of the investigation is precisely to distinguish between those incidents where the civilian loss was due to such unavoidable situation vs those where wanton hatred resulted in the atrocities. The latter ones become cause for prosecution.

An international probe has already been done in UNHRC so why more?
ITAK is the largest party in the Tamil National Alliance and the single biggest Tamil party in Sri Lanka and they have condemned the actions of Vigneshwaran and some other Extremist Tamil parties.

ITAK says intl. probe unnecessary ::: Dailymirror.lk ::: Breaking News

 

[Post Colonnial]

An international probe has already been done in UNHRC so why more?
ITAK is the largest party in the Tamil National Alliance and the single biggest Tamil party in Sri Lanka and they have condemned the actions of Vigneshwaran and some other Extremist Tamil parties.

ITAK says intl. probe unnecessary ::: Dailymirror.lk ::: Breaking News

ok if you say so