Syrian Air Defense Intercepted 71 Cruise Missiles Launched by West - Russian MoD

[Cell_DbZ]

I used to hold Russia in high regard; not any more. Bunch of clowns.

Sadly, credibility is one of the first casualitiy of a cold war...

 

[Hindustani78]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...o-air-bases/article23569451.ece?homepage=true
State television did not mention three missiles that were fired at Dumair military airport
Syrian anti-aircraft defences shot down missiles fired at the Syrian air base of Shayrat in Homs province late on Monday and another base northeast of the capital, Damascus, Syria's state television and pro-Iranian media said.

State television showed pictures of a missile that was shot in the air above the air base only days after a U.S., attack on Syrian targets in retaliation for a suspected chemical attack on the city of Douma on the outskirts of Damascus.

State television did not mention three missiles that were fired at Dumair military airport, northeast of Damascus, that pro-Iranian Hezbollah's media service reported were intercepted by Syrian air defences.

Opposition sources say Dumair airport is a major air base used in a large-scale military campaign waged by the Syrian army with Russian firepower that regained eastern Ghouta, a rebel enclave on the outskirts of Damascus.

No military activity, says Pentagon
A Pentagon spokesman said there was no U.S. military activity in that area at this time.

Asked about the missile attack, an Israeli military spokesman said: “We don't comment on such reports.”

Shayrat air base was targeted last year in a U.S. cruise missile attack in response to a chemical attack that killed at least 70 people, including children, on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun.

 

[帅的一匹]

Trump said non of the missles fired at Syria was intercepted. And while Russia claimed they intercepted 71 missles USA launched. Who is lying?

 

[gambit]

Ref post 276...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/syri...west-russian-mod.553636/page-19#post-10420194

Looks like Mr. Marko Marjanović ain't much of a thinker.

The goal of a military strike is not about counting how much it takes to either destroy a target or to render it a non-contributor to the war effort. But to actually destroy or render it a non-contributor to the war effort. Mr. Marjanovic essentially criticized US and allies for spending too much bullets. We do not care if it take one bullet or one hundred bullets. We just want the target killed.

Let us say that local air defense, Syrian or Russian, managed to intercept at least 30 cruise missiles. Where are the evidences? But never mind that for now.

Does it matter if local air defense took out at least 30 cruise missiles? No, it does not. Yes, we should always be judicious with our expenditures of weaponry, but the destruction of the target takes priority so if we can spare a few extras to compensate for losses along the way, we must.

If we overwhelmed local air defense, what does that say about our intelligence of the area? Better than what the Syrians and Russians expected that we knew how much they can send up and that we outnumber them with how much cruise missiles launched.

But the Russians knows that is not the case. Syrian air defense got caught surprised. We do not need to saturate the entire area with destruction. If that was what we wanted, instead of cruise missiles, a flight of B-52s in the night would have done the job. There were no interceptions. I have no problems being proved wrong. But the odds are not good that the Russians will come up or fabricate up sufficiently convincing evidences.

 

[vostok]

Let me correct you, Turkey doesn't begin something that it already has, it only protects it's interests stronger. Protects it against anybody, be it against Russia or US.

I understand your displeasure by my words, but they are true. Even Russia, to some extent, is not completely independent from the West (curse on the head of Gorbachev and Yeltsin). To begin with, it is necessary to abolish the status of the dollar as the only world currency, to move most of the international organizations and courts from the territory of the United States and Europe - then we can speak about independence.

 

[Ceylal]

One of Syrian hero's ...16 missiles shot down...in one night!

Lieutenant Hasan Šelf. The anti-aircraft battery under his leadership shot down 16 missiles.



Алексей Солнцев
April 15 at 4:27pm ·
Лейтенант Хасан Шелф. Зенитная батарея под его руководством сбила 16 ракет.

Lieutenant Hassan Šelf. - battery under his leadership hit 16 missiles.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Score card from the Russ MOD:

Pantsir-S1: 25 missiles fired, 23 hits scored.
Buk-M2: 29 missiles fired, 24 hits scored.
Kub: 21 missiles fired, 11 hits scored.
Strela-10: 5 missiles fired, 3 hits scored.
Osa: 11 missiles fired, 5 hits scored.
S-125: 13 missiles fired, 5 hits scored.
S-200: 8 missiles fired, 0 hits scored.

Pantsir-S1 and Buk-M2 have performed very well indeed. The older S-200 system is only fit to down large bomber aircraft like the B-52 or the B-1B's. Not suitable for low altitude terrain following CM's.

 

[bsruzm]

I understand your displeasure by my words, but they are true. Even Russia, to some extent, is not completely independent from the West (curse on the head of Gorbachev and Yeltsin). To begin with, it is necessary to abolish the status of the dollar as the only world currency, to move most of the international organizations and courts from the territory of the United States and Europe - then we can speak about independence.

Still displeasured but well, you have a point.

 

[mandrom]

Ref post 276...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/syri...west-russian-mod.553636/page-19#post-10420194

Looks like Mr. Marko Marjanović ain't much of a thinker.

The goal of a military strike is not about counting how much it takes to either destroy a target or to render it a non-contributor to the war effort. But to actually destroy or render it a non-contributor to the war effort. Mr. Marjanovic essentially criticized US and allies for spending too much bullets. We do not care if it take one bullet or one hundred bullets. We just want the target killed.

Let us say that local air defense, Syrian or Russian, managed to intercept at least 30 cruise missiles. Where are the evidences? But never mind that for now.

Does it matter if local air defense took out at least 30 cruise missiles? No, it does not. Yes, we should always be judicious with our expenditures of weaponry, but the destruction of the target takes priority so if we can spare a few extras to compensate for losses along the way, we must.

If we overwhelmed local air defense, what does that say about our intelligence of the area? Better than what the Syrians and Russians expected that we knew how much they can send up and that we outnumber them with how much cruise missiles launched.

But the Russians knows that is not the case. Syrian air defense got caught surprised. We do not need to saturate the entire area with destruction. If that was what we wanted, instead of cruise missiles, a flight of B-52s in the night would have done the job. There were no interceptions. I have no problems being proved wrong. But the odds are not good that the Russians will come up or fabricate up sufficiently convincing evidences.

Except that Anti-Assad pro-rebel UK intelligence linked SOHR has reported 65 missiles being shot down . And it has been the darling of Western media for many years.

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/15/syrian-observatory-65-allied-missiles-intercepted-over-syria/

www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

Seems to me Pentagon is not reporting the true figures.

They are pathological liars.


Which site I claimed is destroyed is still there? Don't lie.

• On Mezze Airport: 9 rockets were launched, and 5 were intercepted
  
• On Homs airport: 16 rockets were fired, 13 of which were intercepted

There were no any hits in these places. Homs airport does not even exist. Stupid Russian lie for imbeciles.

Except that the Pro-Rebel UK intelligence backed SOHR has reported 65 missiles being shot down.BBC and Western media loved to quote them for many years.

Russians would be parading [shot down] trophies around, if they had any.

They concocted this fake story for face-saving.

Partisangirl Mimi Al Laham has published five to ten photos of shot down missiles especially of MBDA ,Tomahawk ,though some images are of S-200 wrecks . The Syrian Army Forensics is collecting the Fragments and publishing them in phases though there are having it processed by Russian MoD for proper analysis.

https://twitter.com/x/status/985085664247955456

Ref post 276...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/syri...west-russian-mod.553636/page-19#post-10420194

Looks like Mr. Marko Marjanović ain't much of a thinker.

The goal of a military strike is not about counting how much it takes to either destroy a target or to render it a non-contributor to the war effort. But to actually destroy or render it a non-contributor to the war effort. Mr. Marjanovic essentially criticized US and allies for spending too much bullets. We do not care if it take one bullet or one hundred bullets. We just want the target killed.

Let us say that local air defense, Syrian or Russian, managed to intercept at least 30 cruise missiles. Where are the evidences? But never mind that for now.

Does it matter if local air defense took out at least 30 cruise missiles? No, it does not. Yes, we should always be judicious with our expenditures of weaponry, but the destruction of the target takes priority so if we can spare a few extras to compensate for losses along the way, we must.

If we overwhelmed local air defense, what does that say about our intelligence of the area? Better than what the Syrians and Russians expected that we knew how much they can send up and that we outnumber them with how much cruise missiles launched.

But the Russians knows that is not the case. Syrian air defense got caught surprised. We do not need to saturate the entire area with destruction. If that was what we wanted, instead of cruise missiles, a flight of B-52s in the night would have done the job. There were no interceptions. I have no problems being proved wrong. But the odds are not good that the Russians will come up or fabricate up sufficiently convincing evidences.

Even in the last 2017 Shayrat AFB attack Russian EW brought down 23 out 60 missiles according to Theodore karasik

In an exclusive video interview with RiskHedge, a long-time geopolitical expert says there is an alternate story making the rounds about the United States’ April 7 missile strike on Syria’s Shayrat Airbase in response to the Syrian regime’s alleged use of sarin gas on its own people.

“Not all missiles made their target,” says Dr. Theodore Karasik, a senior advisor to Gulf State Analytics. “There were supposed to be 60. One malfunctioned on one of the ships. 36 made target, the remainder did not. And, there’s a question of where did they go?”

Dr. Karasik, a former senior political scientist in the International Policy and Security Group at RAND Corporation, spent the last decade in the Middle East and retains an extensive network in the region.

“The missing [missiles] were either brought down by S-300 battery or were taken over by Russian electronic jamming and were plunged into the sea,” explains Dr. Karasik. “Now, this alternative theory means that the US and Russia have already clashed if you will—technically—with the use of the TLAMs (Tomahawk missiles) and then being intercepted or taken over by Russian control.”

If true, this means the US and Russia have had a direct military confrontation for the first time in decades.

“This is very important,” says Dr. Karasik, “because it illustrates that we’ve had our first encounter with the Russians, and that sets the stage for potentially future encounters between Washington and Russia on the Syrian battlefield.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/did-russia-shoot-down-us-missiles-syria

Seems the Russians have improvised further. Thanks for Battlefield experience.

 

[DavidSling]

Syria Blames Missiles, False Alarm on 'Joint Electronic Attack' by Israel and U.S.

Syrian military officials denied reports of an attack, but say defense systems triggered by electronic attack on radars

Jack Khoury and Reuters Apr 17, 2018 11:52 AM

False alarm in Syria: Military sources says no attack overnight'Damascus Now' Facebook page
Syrian military sources denied early Monday reports of an early morning missile attack targeting Shayrat air base and told the DPA news agency that the defense systems were activated, but that it turned out to be a false alarm.

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A commander in the regional military alliance that backs the Syrian government attributed the malfunction to "a joint electronic attack" by Israel and the United States targeting the Syrian radar system.

Hezbollah's media initially also said six missiles were fired toward Shayrat and three missiles toward Dumair military airport near Damascus.

Meanwhile, SANA reported that the missiles targeting the air base were shot down by Syrian air defenses, and Hezbollah's media unit said all nine missiles were intercepted. Later that night, a false alarm was reported near Aleppo.


Elijah J. Magnier@ejmalrai

#Israel escalates and is looking for a wider confrontation the US failed to trigger & decided to avoid..for now...#Syria:

Israeli Jets - while violating the Lebanese airspace - fired 3 missiles on al-Damyr airport all downed and 6 on Shaayrat (Only 2 reached their objectives).

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Neither of the reports from SANA or Hezbollah specified who may have fired the missiles. Sky News said loud explosions were heard on the Syrian side of the Bekaa Valley, which borders Lebanon.

According to a journalist close to Hezbollah, Elijah J. Magnier, Israeli jets fired at least three missiles at the airport, "while violating Lebanese airspace."

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Responding to the SANA report, a Pentagon spokesman said there "is no U.S. military activity in that area at this time," adding: "We do not have additional details to provide."

Shayrat air base was the target of American strikes last year in response to a chemical weapons attack on northern Syria attributed to Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime. Opposition forces say Dumair airport has been used in the military campaign to regain eastern Ghouta, a rebel enclave on the outskirts of Damascus that the Syrian army, backed by Russian air power, completely retook in the last few days after a relentless bombing offensive.

The reports come days after the United States, together with France and the United Kingdom, carried out precision airstrikes on targets in Syria. The strikes were in retalition for a nerve gas attack on the Syrian town of Douma last Saturday, which Western powers blamed on the Syrian government.

On Sunday, a senior Israeli military official admitted to The New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman that Israel attacked an Iranian target in Syria last week. “It was the first time we attacked live Iranian targets — both facilities and people,” the Israeli military official said of the strike, which targed an Iranian drone command center at T4 air base.

The official also noted that the armed Iranian drone that entered Israeli airspace in February "opened a new period," saying that "this is the first time we saw Iran do something against Israel — not by proxy."

DPA contributed to the report.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...missile-attack-on-air-base-thwarted-1.6009200

 

[LeGenD]

Partisangirl Mimi Al Laham has published five to ten photos of shot down missiles especially of MBDA ,Tomahawk ,though some images are of S-200 wrecks . The Syrian Army Forensics is collecting the Fragments and publishing them in phases though there are having it processed by Russian MoD for proper analysis.

https://twitter.com/x/status/985085664247955456

This wreckage of a French SCALP missile was probably recovered from the location of the Him Shimshar CW bunker where it was used.

@Vergennes will show you why this wreckage does not affirm an intercept.

Even in the last 2017 Shayrat AFB attack Russian EW brought down 23 out 60 missiles according to Theodore karasik

In an exclusive video interview with RiskHedge, a long-time geopolitical expert says there is an alternate story making the rounds about the United States’ April 7 missile strike on Syria’s Shayrat Airbase in response to the Syrian regime’s alleged use of sarin gas on its own people.

“Not all missiles made their target,” says Dr. Theodore Karasik, a senior advisor to Gulf State Analytics. “There were supposed to be 60. One malfunctioned on one of the ships. 36 made target, the remainder did not. And, there’s a question of where did they go?”

Dr. Karasik, a former senior political scientist in the International Policy and Security Group at RAND Corporation, spent the last decade in the Middle East and retains an extensive network in the region.

“The missing [missiles] were either brought down by S-300 battery or were taken over by Russian electronic jamming and were plunged into the sea,” explains Dr. Karasik. “Now, this alternative theory means that the US and Russia have already clashed if you will—technically—with the use of the TLAMs (Tomahawk missiles) and then being intercepted or taken over by Russian control.”

If true, this means the US and Russia have had a direct military confrontation for the first time in decades.

“This is very important,” says Dr. Karasik, “because it illustrates that we’ve had our first encounter with the Russians, and that sets the stage for potentially future encounters between Washington and Russia on the Syrian battlefield.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-22/did-russia-shoot-down-us-missiles-syria

Seems the Russians have improvised further. Thanks for Battlefield experience.

Independent sources busted those claims.

FYI: https://www.imagesatintl.com/us-strike-syria/

In fact I saw a footage in which a Syrian official pointed out that 2 x Tomahawk cruise missiles had struck the same target in some locations.

In total, 58 Tomahawk cruise missiles had struck that airbase.

Back then, I mistook Russian propaganda for an honest 'error of judgement' but now I realize that Russians are pathological liars. They are proving themselves as much.

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Achieving an hit-to-kill intercept in real-time conditions is not a joke for even a technologically advanced country. Few systems have demonstrated this capability in the battlefield and otherwise. Even in the case of S-400 system, only 77N6 type missiles are designed to achieve for hit-to-kill intercepts in real-time conditions (and these are not mass-produced yet).

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I suspect that Russian propaganda is grounded in the interests of its arms-industry; they want to sell their weapons to potential customers so why not exaggerate their capabilities?

 

[500]

Except that Anti-Assad pro-rebel UK intelligence linked SOHR has reported 65 missiles being shot down . And it has been the darling of Western media for many years.

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/04/15/syrian-observatory-65-allied-missiles-intercepted-over-syria/

www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

Seems to me Pentagon is not reporting the true figures.



Except that the Pro-Rebel UK intelligence backed SOHR has reported 65 missiles being shot down.BBC and Western media loved to quote them for many years.

SOHR is not pro rebel and it knows shyt about the missiles. So far zero evidence was presented about even 1 missile being shot down.

Partisangirl Mimi Al Laham has published five to ten photos of shot down missiles especially of MBDA ,Tomahawk ,though some images are of S-200 wrecks . The Syrian Army Forensics is collecting the Fragments and publishing them in phases though there are having it processed by Russian MoD for proper analysis.

https://twitter.com/x/status/985085664247955456

She published a tiny part of French missile left after explosion on the terget and rest are simply fakes.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Syria Blames Missiles, False Alarm on 'Joint Electronic Attack' by Israel and U.S.

Syrian military officials denied reports of an attack, but say defense systems triggered by electronic attack on radars

Jack Khoury and Reuters Apr 17, 2018 11:52 AM

False alarm in Syria: Military sources says no attack overnight'Damascus Now' Facebook page
Syrian military sources denied early Monday reports of an early morning missile attack targeting Shayrat air base and told the DPA news agency that the defense systems were activated, but that it turned out to be a false alarm.

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A commander in the regional military alliance that backs the Syrian government attributed the malfunction to "a joint electronic attack" by Israel and the United States targeting the Syrian radar system.

Hezbollah's media initially also said six missiles were fired toward Shayrat and three missiles toward Dumair military airport near Damascus.

Meanwhile, SANA reported that the missiles targeting the air base were shot down by Syrian air defenses, and Hezbollah's media unit said all nine missiles were intercepted. Later that night, a false alarm was reported near Aleppo.


Elijah J. Magnier@ejmalrai

#Israel escalates and is looking for a wider confrontation the US failed to trigger & decided to avoid..for now...#Syria:

Israeli Jets - while violating the Lebanese airspace - fired 3 missiles on al-Damyr airport all downed and 6 on Shaayrat (Only 2 reached their objectives).

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Neither of the reports from SANA or Hezbollah specified who may have fired the missiles. Sky News said loud explosions were heard on the Syrian side of the Bekaa Valley, which borders Lebanon.

According to a journalist close to Hezbollah, Elijah J. Magnier, Israeli jets fired at least three missiles at the airport, "while violating Lebanese airspace."

>> Nine takeaways from the U.S. Syria strike briefing, and an inconvenient truth for Israel | Chemi Shalev ■ Putin’s bluff is finally being called and Russia is running out of options in Syria | Anshel Pfeffer ■ Putin may limit Israel's operations in Syria in retaliation for U.S.-led strikes | Zvi Bar'el >>

Responding to the SANA report, a Pentagon spokesman said there "is no U.S. military activity in that area at this time," adding: "We do not have additional details to provide."

Shayrat air base was the target of American strikes last year in response to a chemical weapons attack on northern Syria attributed to Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime. Opposition forces say Dumair airport has been used in the military campaign to regain eastern Ghouta, a rebel enclave on the outskirts of Damascus that the Syrian army, backed by Russian air power, completely retook in the last few days after a relentless bombing offensive.

The reports come days after the United States, together with France and the United Kingdom, carried out precision airstrikes on targets in Syria. The strikes were in retalition for a nerve gas attack on the Syrian town of Douma last Saturday, which Western powers blamed on the Syrian government.

On Sunday, a senior Israeli military official admitted to The New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman that Israel attacked an Iranian target in Syria last week. “It was the first time we attacked live Iranian targets — both facilities and people,” the Israeli military official said of the strike, which targed an Iranian drone command center at T4 air base.

The official also noted that the armed Iranian drone that entered Israeli airspace in February "opened a new period," saying that "this is the first time we saw Iran do something against Israel — not by proxy."

DPA contributed to the report.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...missile-attack-on-air-base-thwarted-1.6009200

Wait...so they first claimed there was a missile attack, then claimed to have shot a bunch down, and then they backoff saying actually nothing happened.

And people think the US credibility is shakey? How bad is that?

 

[gambit]

Seems to me Pentagon is not reporting the true figures.

You can call US liars if it make you feel good that US weapons are perfect, but as far as we are concerned, it does not have to be perfect, just good enough.

 

[Jlaw]

I am doing some research about this, but I have not made any progress.

Russian officials said 71 missiles(various types) were destroyed. But the missile debris images on the social media belong to the Russian air defense system. Do you have a debris image of Tomahawk or S.Shadow ? Russia is very active in social media and international media circles. Why do not these images become widespread?

If such a successful prevention has been done, why do not they share their radar track records? Recall that in the past years Jet aircraft crisis, radar tracks have been published for days. At the very least, why do not share like Pantsir systems own IR records?

Russia only gives figures. The US, on the other hand, has published satellite photographs of destroyed military installations. It looks quite damaging. I'm really curious, who is making propaganda, who is telling the truth.This was a very important test in terms of export opportunities of Russian air defense systems. For this reason, more evidence and knowledge is needed.

The missile strikes were on almost the same day 2017 that US launch 36 missiles in some air fields while Xi was visiting Trump at Mar Lago. That was a farce. People have short memory.