Syria Violence: 200 People Killed In Assault By Government Forces

[Harry_Thomason]

I don't want to go into philosophy but just want to say that you believe what you see what you hear and oftenly it isn't the same for person at other end.

If you want to know the truth, the last thing you should do is to believe biased sources. You can choose to believe nazis propaganda against jews and when someone says its not the truth, hide behind "truth is relative". Its not relative, whats so hard to understand?

Secondly, 238 people killed in 2 hours, is this rate called massacre or riot control by army? And are you certain the news sources that are "unbiased" according to you are giving you right estimates of civilian losses.

UK media
Syrian forces 'kill civilians' after opening fire on protesters - Telegraph

Chinese Media
Over 5,000 civilians killed in Syria violence, says UN official - People's Daily Online
(300 children)

Biased sources quoting "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights", which is a front for CIA/MI6 disinformation. There is a zero confirmed news from them, only alleged claims by anonymous "witnesses".

"238 people killed in 2 hours", that would be 2856 per day. Less civilians died per year! How is your math doing?

 

[KRAIT]

If you want to know the truth, the last thing you should do is to believe biased sources. You can choose to believe nazis propaganda against jews and when someone says its not the truth, hide behind "truth is relative". Its not relative, whats so hard to understand?



Biased sources quoting "Syrian Observatory for Human Rights", which is a front for CIA/MI6 disinformation. There is a zero confirmed news from them, only alleged claims by anonymous "witnesses".

"238 people killed in 2 hours", that would be 2856 per day. Less civilians died per year! How is your math doing?

Man its today's clash death toll....this was the rate for 2 hrs when it started....my maths is alright. As you have brought nazis, didn't assad kill 30,000 people, or you need around order of 3 million jews casualty to call it holocaust/mass murder ?

 

[Harry_Thomason]

You always see words like 'activist' are 'Reporting'. How easily people buy this BS even after what happened in Libya.

Exactly, thats just propaganda to brainwash naive. Everyone who uses their brains can easily see how such BS claims are never confirmed, and yet are basis of military intervention, with a goal to change regime to puppets.

Take the case of Libya using air force to attack civilians. This was primarily used to get the U.N authorization to use force. Pentagon did day they no such attack took place, after all is said and done.

How many folks remember that ?

Yes, same story with Gaddafi's viagra and mass rapes (it was a lie), same with genocide (another lie). Ironically, "rebels" in Libya did mass rape and did genocide, so they were guilty of what West/Arabs were blaming Gaddafi for, and even NATO confirmed that rebels committed genocide, and yet everyone looked away and ignored it.

Bottom line: there is no repercussions for disinformation by West, no repercussions for fake pretenses to attack any country (is Bush or Blair going to trial for fake reasons to attack Iraq? No.), and yet if West/arabs supported terrorists DO commit the crimes against humanity, West simply ignores it. Like Libya's "rebels" genocide, or Bahrain bloody crackdown of demonstrations, etc.

 

[KRAIT]

Are you sure about that?
When Britain was having friendly talks with Germany, millions were killed.
No one believed until they saw it with there own eyes.
And don't call me naive, i disagree with you doesn't mean i don't understand geopolitics. I enjoyed having healthy discussion with you but now you seem to be too emotional.

 

[Quasar]

biased sources? propaganda?

reality check!


hafız el esed and his son besar esad are ruling syria since 1971 for more than 40 years!

some people here trying realy hard to ignore the historical roots of this uprising! eseds did the same masacares in 1982 in hama

all you have to do is just to confess that its not in Russias and Irans interests to lose a puppet government! and what matters is this for you!

Hama massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Man its today's clash death toll....this was the rate for 2 hrs when it started....my maths is alright. As you have brought nazis, didn't assad kill 30,000 people, or you need around order of 3 million jews casualty to call it holocaust/mass murder ?

Said by who, fake HR organization? I do believe Syria is fighting against armed terrorists, with casualties on both sides, but there is ZERO confirmed news of army killing civilians. Such claims doesnt hold water, and anyone using brains can see they dont make sense.

 

[KRAIT]

Said by who, fake HR organization? I do believe Syria is fighting against armed terrorists, with casualties on both sides, but there is ZERO confirmed news of army killing civilians. Such claims doesnt hold water, and anyone using brains can see they dont make sense.

Just tell me which news agency or news channel you think will give you congfirmed and "unbiased" information. Kindly share this list so that i and many other members can follow to know the TRUTH.

Cheers

 

[fallstuff]

Are you sure about that?
When Britain was having friendly talks with Germany, millions were killed.
No one believed until they saw it with there own eyes.
And don't call me naive, i disagree with you doesn't mean i don't understand geopolitics. I enjoyed having healthy discussion with you but now you seem to be too emotional.

Hitler was going to rule Europe, Bashar far from that.

Have you seen the killings yourself ? I did not. Bashar was the guy that used to drive around with light protection. Arab League report is more in line with ground facts.

Did you notice how the white folks demonize the Arab League chief report ? They actually called him thug from Sudan. However they had no problem using excerpts from GCC members.

Bashar should not be there. His daddy effed up the nation. Blaming Israel won't do any good here. He doesn't have any clue about what to do about the economy.

However, this is not the way to do it.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Just tell me which news agency or news channel you think will give you congfirmed and "unbiased" information. Kindly share this list so that i and many other members can follow to know the TRUTH.

Cheers

There are independent journalists in the region, however there shouldnt be a single source of information. Check what West/Arabs say, what Syria says, what actually independent journalists say, and keep in mind whats everyones agenda.

For example, West/Arabs planned to change Syria's government for over 10 years now. They start disinformation campaign to shape public opinion (fact). Arm, fund and train fighters to send Syria to attack government (fact). When government defends itself and people, West claims armed fighters are "peaceful civilians" (another fact of disinformation), and that excuse is being used to gather support for military intervention to change the regime, the goal which was decided 10 years ago (fact).

What Syria says also shouldnt be taken blindly, they also lie, just not as bad as West. However, they are under attack by known warmongers, with well known history of disinformation and use of fake pretenses to start the wars to change the regime to puppets. Therefore anyone with brains and who knows the history (including as recent as Libya), can understand which side is inciting this unrest.

 

[wrigsted]

Yes it is difficult and risky task, but Assad is the key, if he gets arrested his army will not fight.

Assad will fight long and hard, he knows if his regime disappears, it will end with a genocide on the Alawis. I have no love for Assad, but if he falls, there will be a bloodbath on a group of innocent people.
And you can not believe the media, as they say, the truth the first casualty of war.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

And don't call me naive, i disagree with you doesn't mean i don't understand geopolitics.

Speaking about geopolitics, dont you see how West is trying to dominate ME? Through any means necessary. Its not Syria who wants war, it wasnt Libya, nor it is Iran, and yet West are attacking country after country on fake pretenses, with massive disinformation, and I'm very much surprised not everyone can see that.

 

[Quasar]

instead of sacrificing palestinian, lebanese and syrian lifes for your interests. hope some day you ll learn to fight your own wars! wish you the best !!!

 

[Birbal]

They look exactly like Maoists? you should be blind my dear friend

they look more like

Point taken. It wasn't my intention to insult Maoists by likening them to the Syrian protestors though.

 

[KRAIT]

There are independent journalists in the region, however there shouldnt be a single source of information. Check what West/Arabs say, what Syria says, what actually independent journalists say, and keep in mind whats everyones agenda.

For example, West/Arabs planned to change Syria's government for over 10 years now. They start disinformation campaign to shape public opinion (fact). Arm, fund and train fighters to send Syria to attack government (fact). When government defends itself and people, West claims armed fighters are "peaceful civilians" (another fact of disinformation), and that excuse is being used to gather support for military intervention to change the regime, the goal which was decided 10 years ago (fact).

What Syria says also shouldnt be taken blindly, they also lie, just not as bad as West. However, they are under attack by known warmongers, with well known history of disinformation and use of fake pretenses to start the wars to change the regime to puppets. Therefore anyone with brains and who knows the history (including as recent as Libya), can understand which side is inciting this unrest.

Just for once provide me a credible source that supports your claim. Will highly appreciate it.

 

[Birbal]

Just tell me which news agency or news channel you think will give you congfirmed and "unbiased" information. Kindly share this list so that i and many other members can follow to know the TRUTH.

Cheers

Overall, it's best to look at original sources. However, most people don't have the massive amounts of time require for that, so I suggest they use RT as a source for most news. It's a good source for everything but domestic Russian news. Hell, even for domestic Russian news it isn't that bad compared to some of the crap we see in Western media.

And considering the historical track record, it would be a pretty good bet to simply assume that anything that the American government says in relation to war crimes or the lack thereof is a lie.