Suu Kyi could be held guilty of crimes against humanity, says UN special envoy

[UKBengali]

that's one more thing behind this. bro
they want to cover up their military strikes in Yemen and Syria which killed thousand of people and made many refuge to neighboring countries. That's much worse than what is happening in Myanmar. US will get at least 2 advantage from highlighting rakhine case in their media. such as 1) it will downplay what they are doing in Syria and Yemen and 2) it will also please their largest weapon buyers for what they did and 3) to disrupt China projects in Rakhine. many birds in one shot. if there was no rohingya problem , China projects can move forward with ease. now both China and Myanmar have to rethink about the project due to the region is unstable.

Please have some respect for the intelligence of your Chinese masters.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

that's one more thing behind this. bro
they want to cover up their military strikes in Yemen and Syria which killed thousand of people and made many refuge to neighboring countries. That's much worse than what is happening in Myanmar. US will get at least 2 advantage from highlighting rakhine case in their media. such as 1) it will downplay what they are doing in Syria and Yemen and 2) it will also please their largest weapon buyers for what they did and 3) to disrupt China projects in Rakhine. many birds in one shot. if there was no rohingya problem , China projects can move forward with ease. now both China and Myanmar have to rethink about the project due to the region is unstable.

Please have some respect for the intelligence of your Chinese masters.

It is always easy to blame others for one's own crime.I thought it is only the nature of human, but it seems it is also the nature of other species.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

that's one more thing behind this. bro
they want to cover up their military strikes in Yemen and Syria which killed thousand of people and made many refuge to neighboring countries. That's much worse than what is happening in Myanmar. US will get at least 2 advantage from highlighting rakhine case in their media. such as 1) it will downplay what they are doing in Syria and Yemen and 2) it will also please their largest weapon buyers for what they did and 3) to disrupt China projects in Rakhine. many birds in one shot. if there was no rohingya problem , China projects can move forward with ease. now both China and Myanmar have to rethink about the project due to the region is unstable.

Facts first, conspiracy doesn't count...

You third class genocidal monkey...

 

[war&peace]

You can do that to start off with but in the end BD will need to annex it, as the other countries will lose interest and then it will be at the mercy of the Barman savages.

Makes sense...

India and China will oppose it till death.

We damn care about Gangadesh..you can just cry ganga ...We will make China agree to it..

 

[war&peace]

It's just a conspiracy to disrupt Chinese pipelines. If there was no Chinese pipeline to disrupt, the West would never even care.

Western countries like USA do far worse atrocities to more numerous people within its borders -- and they support allies who do far worse atrocities to more numerous people within their borders.

This Korean lady from the UN is just a puppet for Western interests.

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you said is true. Can you deny that there is no issue with Rohinggya people and they are not being exterminated by Myanmar? Can China ignore all these human rights violations?

 

[Feng Leng]

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you said is true. Can you deny that there is no issue with Rohinggya people and they are not being exterminated by Myanmar? Can China ignore all these human rights violations?

Myanmar is a messy country. It has a lot of internal problems. As I understand, the Rohingya issue arises from the displacement of Bangel people and their eastward migration during the British rule due to famine. The Myanmar government regards them as foreign migrants and refuses to grant them citizenship status. In response, the Rohingyas formed their own militias and they had an insurgency before the military came and cracked down, forcing them westward. This is called "ethnic cleansing" for sure. Not sure if I see an actual genocide. The g-word being paraded around is more of a Western hypocritical manipulation.

Much of the world's problems comes from the brutality of imperialism and self-interested meddling by Western powers. Here you also have the fault-line between the Islamic World and Buddhist Myanmar. I don't have the solution to the Rohingyas issue. All sides including Bangladesh should try to sit down and resolve it.

 

[bluesky]

I have a different opinion on this.If you consider the Rohingya V force in WW2 and Rohingya Mujaheedin movement in 1950s, Then it is certainly not the case.Their main problem is not lack of bravery or lack of organizational skill, but small number and lack of any foreign backer specially Bangladesh.

The reality is the political background today is different from WWll and the Rohingyas are marching into BD land for safety. So far, they have failed to organize themselves against the Burmese bullying, even after 70 years. World will certainly look the other way for them being a meek group of people and Rohingyas will keep on living in another meek country called golden Bangladesh.

UN and other bodies are giving lip service to BD. The situation cannot change unless Rohingyas themselves or BD's military and political people assert themselves like a proud people should. I have a feeling BD has a lot of Chetona guys who would like to be amalgamated with the other Chetona guys in west Bengal at the hearing of bullet fires from Burma.

 

[Genesis]

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that what you said is true. Can you deny that there is no issue with Rohinggya people and they are not being exterminated by Myanmar? Can China ignore all these human rights violations?

Depends on what you mean. On a human level, no, these should not be ignored. However, geopolitics is rarely about that. In fact, getting personal can have terrible effects on a country's interests.

Anyone can see the human reasons to intervene, but can you name any reason for China to make this move for geopolitical reasons? That is your answer if China and the rest of the world can ignore it.

 

[war&peace]

Depends on what you mean. On a human level, no, these should not be ignored. However, geopolitics is rarely about that. In fact, getting personal can have terrible effects on a country's interests.

Anyone can see the human reasons to intervene, but can you name any reason for China to make this move for geopolitical reasons? That is your answer if China and the rest of the world can ignore it.

There are many ways to solve and I must say this line of thinking is selfish, disgusting and heartless..

Myanmar is a messy country. It has a lot of internal problems. As I understand, the Rohingya issue arises from the displacement of Bangel people and their eastward migration during the British rule due to famine. The Myanmar government regards them as foreign migrants and refuses to grant them citizenship status. In response, the Rohingyas formed their own militias and they had an insurgency before the military came and cracked down, forcing them westward. This is called "ethnic cleansing" for sure. Not sure if I see an actual genocide. The g-word being paraded around is more of a Western hypocritical manipulation.

Much of the world's problems comes from the brutality of imperialism and self-interested meddling by Western powers. Here you also have the fault-line between the Islamic World and Buddhist Myanmar. I don't have the solution to the Rohingyas issue. All sides including Bangladesh should try to sit down and resolve it.

I damn care about the western imperialism when we can see innocent people being murdered mercilessly. China can help solve the issue in a much better way and can fail the western imperialist conspiracies otherwise there will always be possibility of conflict. I used to think Buddhist were peaceful people but Rohingya issue ended that and exposed their savage side and the history is replete with such examples.

 

[Genesis]

There are many ways to solve and I must say this line of thinking is selfish, disgusting and heartless..

Sure, a lot of ways, would you like to discuss any of them? Or should we hug it out and cry?

As to this line of thinking is selfish, disgusting and heartless, do you know why geopolitics or any politics is like this in the first place? It's not purely because of selfishness. It is because nothing can ever be perfect.

You think these people being persecuted is bad? Yes, but if they stop what will happen? They return home? Where will their home be? Somewhere where there is already some other common peasants, who was ravaged by war for decades? Or would they compete with people that had no education or prospects because of the failed economic policies of their country? Because of that competition, maybe his daughter will die of a disease that he has no money to cure.

This is a bad example, but it is a lot closer to the truth than stop the massacre and everything will be rainbows and sunshines. I am not arguing one side or another, and certainly not for the massacre, but if someone is going to come in here on a high horse, they need to come off it. Someone will be badly affected no matter what. Just because you don't know or care, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

[Feng Leng]

I damn care about the western imperialism when we can see innocent people being murdered mercilessly. China can help solve the issue in a much better way and can fail the western imperialist conspiracies otherwise there will always be possibility of conflict. I used to think Buddhist were peaceful people but Rohingya issue ended that and exposed their savage side and the history is replete with such examples.

Myanmar has similar issues in their northern regions with ethnic Chinese towns -- citizenship not given, militias created, sporadic fighting ensues. So far all China has done is ask all sides to de-escalate the conflict. Certainly no ideas about changing boundary lines.

Bangladesh crossing the boundary line into Myanmar would be an escalation -- this is counterproductive. Very likely, in the end, all sides will have to compromise. People who want to stay in Myanmar will need to assimilate into mainstream in exchange for citizenship. People who don't want to stay migrate to Bangladesh. I am sure China has given Myanmar some friendly advice but we can't coerce them.

Almost every country has some tribal discontent somewhere. Myanmar has a lot because of its history. Smashing the country into pieces like former Yugoslavia would truly create a humanitarian disaster on a much larger scale.

 

[bluesky]

As I understand, the Rohingya issue arises from the displacement of Bangel people and their eastward migration during the British rule due to famine. The Myanmar government regards them as foreign migrants and refuses to grant them citizenship status. In response, the Rohingyas formed their own militias and they had an insurgency before the military came and cracked down, forcing them westward. This is called "ethnic cleansing" for sure. Not sure if I see an actual genocide. The g-word being paraded around is more of a Western hypocritical manipulation.

Rohingya people are a mixed group of Muslim people like it is in many other Muslim countries. It is a complete distortion of history to say that the Rohingyas went there during the British time. It was in 1430 BC when many or most of them settled there during an expedition of troops from Bengal to reinstate a Buddhist King who was ousted by his nephew. Muslims from other countries also settled there. Together, they have become a monolithic group of people.

Rohingyas are the sons of Arakan and Arakan itself was not a part of Myanmar. After many centuries of ups and downs, it was finally acceded to Burma by the British Indian govt. only in 1837 CE. Now, people like you are being taught that the Rohingyas are from Bangladesh. It is absolutely unfounded.

 

[UKBengali]

Myanmar has similar issues in their northern regions with ethnic Chinese towns -- citizenship not given, militias created, sporadic fighting ensues. So far all China has done is ask all sides to de-escalate the conflict. Certainly no ideas about changing boundary lines.

Bangladesh crossing the boundary line into Myanmar would be an escalation -- this is counterproductive. Very likely, in the end, all sides will have to compromise. People who want to stay in Myanmar will need to assimilate into mainstream in exchange for citizenship. People who don't want to stay migrate to Bangladesh. I am sure China has given Myanmar some friendly advice but we can't coerce them.

Almost every country has some tribal discontent somewhere. Myanmar has a lot because of its history. Smashing the country into pieces like former Yugoslavia would truly create a humanitarian disaster on a much larger scale.

Your reply is not logical as the ethnic Chinese are considered citizens of Myanmar and they have not been cleansed from Myanmar.

Are you aware that only 3-400,000 Rohingya live in Myanmar now whereas 2 million are living overseas?

Please try to see the harm that the Rohingya issues is doing to China's image in both the Muslim world and other countries. BD considered China one of it's truest friends before they did this to BD. Apart from Pakistan, China did not have any other countries as pro-China as BD was. Remember BD has 160 million people and is one of the fastest growing large economies in the world and so will not for long be a poor insignificant country. China needs countries like BD on it's side if it is ever to reach it's true potential.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Rohingya people are a mixed group of Muslim people like it is in many other Muslim countries. It is a complete distortion of history to say that the Rohingyas went there during the British time. It was in 1430 BC when many or most of them settled there during an expedition of troops from Bengal to reinstate a Buddhist King who was ousted by his nephew. Muslims from other countries also settled there. Together, they have become a monolithic group of people.

Rohingyas are the sons of Arakan and Arakan itself was not a part of Myanmar. After many centuries of ups and downs, it was finally acceded to Burma by the British Indian govt. only in 1837 CE. Now, people like you are being taught that the Rohingyas are from Bangladesh. It is absolutely unfounded.

It was in 1430 BC when many or most of them settled there during an expedition of troops from Bengal to reinstate a Buddhist King who was ousted by his nephew. Muslims from other countries also settled there

u are completely misunderstand or purposely take other history called Kaman ethnic who is already recognized as our ethnic and yes they all are muslim too. their ancestors served as body guard of arakan kings with the help of Bengal sultans. the earliest thing which is mentioned about rohingya is in colonial era for migration of people from BoB as they need workers for their farms in arakan state.

Rohingyas are the sons of Arakan and Arakan itself was not a part of Myanmar. After many centuries of ups and downs, it was finally acceded to Burma by the British Indian govt. only in 1837 CE. Now, people like you are being taught that the Rohingyas are from Bangladesh. It is absolutely unfounded

why do u forget to mention arakan kings who are founded a kingdom which is even included CHT region.?

if u said so called rohingya is son of arakan , arakanese aka rakhine people would be father of arakan as they founded that kingdom.

Rohingyas are the sons of Arakan and Arakan itself was not a part of Myanmar. After many centuries of ups and downs, it was finally acceded to Burma by the British Indian govt. only in 1837 CE. Now, people like you are being taught that the Rohingyas are from Bangladesh. It is absolutely unfounded

seriously ? never part of arakan ?
Burmese kings conquered arakan kingdom since 17th century. since then , arakan region was under the burmese kingdom. that's why british gave us it as part of Myanmar without questions. east pakistan also agreed arakan region is part of Myanmar at that time. according to map of arakan kingdom , we should get even the rest part of arakan called CHT .

 

[asgur]

What west can offer us to solve this issue?