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One for Eurasiantimes Indian Fanboys.

SU 30 MKI is an Indian customized variant with similarities to SU 35 (same engine and features) and further improvements down the line including Russian, French, Israeli and Indian avionics.
Russia impressed with this variant ordered a couple of Su30MKIs with the local name of Su-30SMs but dunno if French and Israeli avionics were included in it.
What exact variant with what avionics is the question here.
 
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The Indians have a double headache trying to upgrade all these aircraft
 
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SU 30 MKI is an Indian customized variant with similarities to SU 35 (same engine and features) and further improvements down the line including Russian, French, Israeli and Indian avionics.
Russia impressed with this variant ordered a couple of Su30MKIs with the local name of Su-30SMs but dunno if French and Israeli avionics were included in it.
What exact variant with what avionics is the question here.
Don't mean to digress but the MKi in IAF hands also totally failed in combat. Hence the MiG-21 were sent in as the last resort to combat PAF jets on 27.2. 19.
 
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Don't mean to digress but the MKi in IAF hands also totally failed in combat. Hence the MiG-21 were sent in as the last resort to combat PAF jets on 27.2. 19.
I dunno what happened on that day adn what politics led to the "emergency acquisition" of Rafale but the Su30MKI still remains a potent fighter and has performed well in exercises.
 
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I dunno what happened on that day adn what politics led to the "emergency acquisition" of Rafale but the Su30MKI still remains a potent fighter and has performed well in exercises.
One interesting aspect of it is how the IAF’s two Su-30MKIs dueled with eight PAF F-16s during the conflict. The North group of 4 F-16s engaged our Flankers, which fired 3 AIM-120C AMRAAM BVR missiles. All the missiles missed their mark. The Sukhois pushed them back, while also picking up another group of 4 F-16s and multiple inbound strike aircraft from the Southern formation. This in essence meant that the Avengers were heavily outgunned by the PAF formation carrying more advanced American BVR missiles, and in sheer numbers. A fourth AMRAAM was fired by the South Group.

By advanced mapping, it could be deduced that by that time the Su-30MKI jets were just 25-30 kilometers away from the North Group jets. This fourth AMRAAM was also evaded by the Sukhois.

IAF Flankers, instead of retreating, counterattacked in a bold move against the F-16s ignoring the high-density BVR threat from the F-16s, in all probability breaching the AMRAAM MAR to press home the R27/77 attack 25-30 km from lead PAF jets in the North Group.

This meant that the things turned out to be the other way for the PAF, the Su-30s instead of returning dashed on to the F-16s to make them come under the R-27/77 missile range. This is because the Su-30MKIs were not carrying long-range BVR missiles, and had medium-range missiles, whose range problem had to be mitigated by bringing F-16s closer. The lead North Group F-16 fighters, instead of attacking the incoming Sukhoi, went ‘COLD’ prematurely.

That is the reason for the 10 out of 12 Pakistani bombs falling well out of the range of their intended targets was because of this unexpected counterattack by the IAF fighters
 
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The Indians have a double headache trying to upgrade all these aircraft
Hmm

Astra missile contract will reduce India's dependency on Russian R-77 and Israeli Derby beyond-visual-range missiles. As far as avionics are concerned, SU-30 MKI is now equipped with DRDO developed Dhruti DR-118 RWR



Integration of the Indian fighter fleets with superior Israeli Software Defined Radios (BNET-AR/Global-Link) now stands complete. Pilots can communicate with each other without been eavesdropped by the rival pilots in the vicinity.
Su-30MKI also now features an indigenous ANS-1100A VOR/ILS System that helps aircraft navigate by using fixed ground-based beacons when coming for landing and an Upgraded RAM-1701AS Radio Altimeter which aids Pilot to carry out low level or night flight below

 
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I'm impressed by how much bigger the Su30mki is compared to our other fighters especially Tejas lol.
It's almost as big as the P8I
 

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SU 30 MKI is an Indian customized variant with similarities to SU 35 (same engine and features) and further improvements down the line including Russian, French, Israeli and Indian avionics.
Russia impressed with this variant ordered a couple of Su30MKIs with the local name of Su-30SMs but dunno if French and Israeli avionics were included in it.
What exact variant with what avionics is the question here.
Yeah supa dupa India specific tech.... 😁😄
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Yeah supa dupa India specific tech.... 😁😄
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:D we have the liberty and money to play with various stuff and get technical assistance from France, Russia, Israel and in certain circumstances the US.
Atleast we have a now local albeit fledgling arms industry that will improve further more by trial and error.
 
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:D we have the liberty and money to play with various stuff and get technical assistance from France, Russia, Israel and in certain circumstances the US.
Atleast we have a now local albeit fledgling arms industry that will improve further more by trial and error.
On that much, we agree. 😁😄
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Don't mean to digress but the MKi in IAF hands also totally failed in combat. Hence the MiG-21 were sent in as the last resort to combat PAF jets on 27.2. 19.
And its far easier to shoot down a SU30 vs Mig21 - Thats why all of the Rabtors of the East were on the run leaving one of its own shot.
 
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One interesting aspect of it is how the IAF’s two Su-30MKIs dueled with eight PAF F-16s during the conflict. The North group of 4 F-16s engaged our Flankers, which fired 3 AIM-120C AMRAAM BVR missiles. All the missiles missed their mark. The Sukhois pushed them back, while also picking up another group of 4 F-16s and multiple inbound strike aircraft from the Southern formation. This in essence meant that the Avengers were heavily outgunned by the PAF formation carrying more advanced American BVR missiles, and in sheer numbers. A fourth AMRAAM was fired by the South Group.

By advanced mapping, it could be deduced that by that time the Su-30MKI jets were just 25-30 kilometers away from the North Group jets. This fourth AMRAAM was also evaded by the Sukhois.

IAF Flankers, instead of retreating, counterattacked in a bold move against the F-16s ignoring the high-density BVR threat from the F-16s, in all probability breaching the AMRAAM MAR to press home the R27/77 attack 25-30 km from lead PAF jets in the North Group.

This meant that the things turned out to be the other way for the PAF, the Su-30s instead of returning dashed on to the F-16s to make them come under the R-27/77 missile range. This is because the Su-30MKIs were not carrying long-range BVR missiles, and had medium-range missiles, whose range problem had to be mitigated by bringing F-16s closer. The lead North Group F-16 fighters, instead of attacking the incoming Sukhoi, went ‘COLD’ prematurely.

That is the reason for the 10 out of 12 Pakistani bombs falling well out of the range of their intended targets was because of this unexpected counterattack by the IAF fighters
lol just tell if u believe an f-16 was shot down that fateful day or not... then we can talk more or not.
 
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